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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion
Thu Dec 01st 2011, 02:13 PM

Republican propagandist/strategist Frank Luntz is up to his old slimy tricks. He’s feeding the GOP talking points, better known as big lies, to slander and discredit the nascent Occupy movement, as well as to attempt to divert people’s attention from the crimes perpetrated by corporate titans, who have sold the public a bill of goods and are extorting the little they have to their name.
We have long cracked the code of the GOP politics of distortion and distraction. So, here’s how to answer back when Republicans attack Occupy and Democrats with their worn-out, empty talking points.
When the GOP says, “Don't say 'capitalism' “; say ‘economic freedom’ or a ‘free market’”, you say, “21st century robber barons”, “predatory corporate tyranny” or “financial parasites.”
When a Republican says, “Don't say that the government 'taxes the rich.' Instead, tell them that the government 'takes from the rich.'”, you say, “Rich freeloaders need to pay back what they stole” , “economic justice” or that government should “create a tax structure according to ability to pay.”
When the GOP bleats, “Republicans should forget about winning the battle over the 'middle class' and that they should call them 'hardworking taxpayers'”, you answer back, “We should focus on taking back the country from the unelected and unaccountable ‘fourth branch of the government’, a.k.a., corporate predators getting rich from the hard work of others.”
When the GOP drones, “Don't talk about 'jobs'; talk about 'careers’”, you ought to come back with, “Don’t talk about jobs until you do something to put people back to work again. Until then, sit down and shut up.”
When Republican whine, “Don't say 'government spending'”, come back with “Republicans don’t have trouble giving government handouts to criminal banksters.”
When the GOP is told, “Don't ever say you're willing to 'compromise'”, tell them “’Sticking to your principles’ and not giving an inch, even when you’re proven wrong, is a sign of weakness. Compromise is a sign of strength.”
When a repuke is told to say, “The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it'”, just answer, “I wasn’t born yesterday; you not only don’t get it, you’re the ones carrying water for the billionaires and corporate criminals.”
Don’t fall for the Republicans’ empty promises and false compassion. If they tell you, "First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system", tell them “You lying bastards. We know whose side you’re on, and it sure as hell is not ours.”
When the GOP calls an “entrepreneur” a “job creator”, watch out. They’re trying to make the financial and corporate criminals out to be heroes.
When Republicans come out with their "job creators" instead of "entrepreneurs" and "innovators" crap, come back with this: “If Wall Street titans are such job creators, where are the jobs? Don’t tell us we have to emigrate to India or China because they won’t hire us, either.” Or, you can try this one on for size: “Job creators” is GOP doubletalk for “job destroyers.”
When Luntz tells the GOP, “Don't ever ask anyone to 'sacrifice'”, he means “Don’t tell the banksters and lobbyists to give up their iron grip on wealth and power. Just blackmail the Democrats.”
When the GOP comes out with their “always blame Washington” bullshit, tell them they’re blaming Washington because they’re slaves to Wall Street.

p.s. feel free to add your comebacks to Luntz propaganda.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion
Sun Oct 30th 2011, 12:11 AM
You are Wall Street, you say.  It’s your job to make money, you say.  Are you telling us that your job description entails stealing as much money from as many people as possible, by means of the long cons better known as commodity speculation, fraudulent mortgages repackaged as securities and sold to unsuspecting investors on the derivatives market, knowing full well that these investments were worthless pieces of paper designed to rob people of their livelihoods?

Of course no one goes to Gamblers Anonymous when they're on a winning streak. But we're not talking gambling here, at least not in the Vegas casino tradition. We're talking more a three-card monte table drawn out over a span of years. Guess what that's called--it's not gambling; it's the crime of grand theft by deception. Do you really think we're fools? Do you really think we haven't caught onto your lies, blackmail, and extortion of citizens and government alike?

Now that you’ve crapped out the market with your swindling, you claim that average Joes are looking for a scapegoat because you’ve stolen the bulk of their money.  Americans are putting the blame where the blame is due: squarely on your shoulders.  You, Wall Street, are 100% responsible for causing the economic crisis we’re in right now.  You, Wall Street, are nothing but a glorified organized crime family, criminals acting as if they’re above the law.  You’ve bribed the politicians and regulators in Washington to look the other way while you’ve robbed us blind.  We’re generally against summary execution, but you’re so dangerous that the only way to save the country is to get rid of you without a trial.

Don’t think you can hide behind your lobbyists and your bought and paid-for politicians in Washington for much longer.  You think you’re smarter than we are, but you’re not; you’re arrogant, soulless snakes hiding inside a human body.
You aren’t dinosaurs; you’re far more diabolical than that.  You’re demons in human form unworthy to call themselves human beings.  You hide your criminal proclivities behind your $10M mansions, $80K cars, and $5K silk suits.  As far as we humans with a conscience are concerned, you’ve pushed us too far and we’re ready to send you back to Hell where you belong.

WE ARE THE 99% AND WE’RE NOT PAYING FOR THE CRISIS YOU CREATED!!!!!

pdf doc is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/70850796



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Posted by StopThePendulum in Editorials & Other Articles
Sat Oct 15th 2011, 12:18 PM
Religous fundamentalism is finally being exposed as a political scam by corrupted politicians, corrupt clerics, and unscrupulous business persons and organizations, as well as the lobbyists they hire at a salary commensurate with that of a star athlete or Hollywood actor, as a smokescreen to deceive unsuspecting voters into electing officials who pass laws that give a license for favored businesses to pollute their air and water, poison their food supply--if they're lucky enough to afford enough food to eat, ship their jobs overseas, steal the roof over their heads and the little money they have remaining from their bank accounts, break up their marriages and families by causing both spouses work two or three minimum-wage jobs just to make ends meet, etc. They also conspire to pass laws that give the big companies, banks, etc., impunity by means of laws that protect the Republics' partners in crime from the legal consequence of their actions.

The con is simple yet devastating to American politics. All the Republicans have to do is convince voters to elect Republic politicians is to downplay or ignore their collusion with banksters and other gangster captains of industry by using Christian fundamentalist clergy as mouthpieces to pressure churchgoing voters to vote for candidates that profess to oppose legal abortions, assisted suicide, euthanasia, gays, etc. Notice how those fundamentalist churches/parishes either never mention one word of the Beatitudes or twist Scriptures to justify protecting the rich's abuse of the poor. The people involved in this right-wing swindle either are in on the scam and the voters are being played for suckers.

Here's how the game is played:

You vote to abolish abortion and you get tax breaks for the 0.1% while your tax burden gets heavier.
You vote to stop gay rights and you'll get more of your high-skilled, high-paying jobs shipped to China, India, and third-world dictatorships, where your former bosses can now enslave little kids to amass more obscene profits.
You vote to strengthen traditional marriage and you'll end up either underwater on your mortgage (if you're lucky) or kicked out of your house due to the predatory lenders the GOP protects.
You vote to make divorce more difficult, if not impossible, and you'll end up getting killed anyhow by eating poison disguised as food, drinking polluted water, and breathing toxic air.

When the Republics control a Congressional house, they pass some sort of bill that, on its surface, restricts abortions that they know either won't pass or will be struck down in the courts as unconstitutional. The sole purpose of those bills is symbolic and serve no constructive purpose. They intentionally divide the electorate, painting Democrats as immoral baby killers, anti-Christian, and even murderers.

Notice how fundie clerics are obsessed with sex. Every single wedge issue they preach against somehow involves sex. They use sex as a distraction to prevent citizens from focusing on the real issue that's destroying this country from within: the love of money. What's even more scandalizing is that these same fundamentalist clerics who preach politics from the pulpit have themselves been embroiled in sex and/or financial scandals of their own.

I'm no secularist--in fact, I'm Catholic, and outraged by the obsession of some clergy who take it upon themselves to decide who goes to Heaven or Hell. I resent the way some bishops think you have to vote Republican to be regarded as a real Christian. Last time I checked, Jesus was infuriated with the money changers and turned over their tables, and the GOP is loath to do likewise. I see through the flimflam the republics are trying to pull. I am not fooled by their con artist tactics.

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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion
Tue Jul 26th 2011, 01:48 PM
Allow me to play devil's advocate. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be treated like a child and told what I should and shouldn't eat, lest I pay double. I'm a adult and don't need to be told how to live, even if it's for my own good.

My mother made me eat my vegetables and wouldn't let me leave the table until I finished everything on my plate--whether I liked it or not. She is no longer with us and I don't need another overbearing authority figure dictating to me what I must and mustn't put in my body. Bitman is advocating an enforced radical change in people's diets. If anything, changes should be gradual so people can get used to a new diet. Drastic dietary changes have been shown to cause digestive disturbances, including indigestion, the runs, etc., especially when changes happen to them in one fell swoop.

I see some double standards at work here. A lot of overprotective advocates of "fat taxes", along with their allies on DU, are willing to accept left-wing authoritarianism when it comes to lifestyle issues such as smoking, obesity, etc., but chafe at the authoritarianism from the right when sexual behavior is involved. Granted, right-wing authoritarianism proves to be more dangerous and violent, but shouldn't DUers be above looking down their noses at people because they smoke, are heavyset, or both? Think about it. My criticism of new lifestyle taxes comes not from the far right, but from deep center. For me, it's the principle; I personally have a problem with, and a tendency to revolt against, overbearing authority, no matter how well-intentioned it may be. To give an old saw new teeth: "The road to hell is paved with politicians with good intentions."
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Posted by StopThePendulum in The DU Lounge
Wed Apr 06th 2011, 08:56 AM
My cat (may she rest in kitty peace) Tweety, pictured below, kept trying to catch a fly who played dead--I kid you not! No sooner did she pounce on the "dead" fly did it take off and buzz around her, taunting and teasing her. It was a riot! Too bad I didn't have a camcorder (this was 1999) to get a video. Still, the memory was priceless!

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Posted by StopThePendulum in The DU Lounge
Sun Mar 13th 2011, 12:40 PM
Would he lie so he could lie? (past tense: lay)
Would he lie if he were bi?
Would he lie if gay he were?
Would he lie to get some more?
Would he say he loves you so?
Would he lie to get some mo'?
Would he tell you where to go?
If you said, "The answer's 'no'?"

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Posted by StopThePendulum in The DU Lounge
Sat Dec 11th 2010, 06:20 PM
I went down to a Philadelphia suburb to visit my friend. At about 3:35 PM this afternoon, about 1/2 mile before I got to her house, I decided to pull over into the parking lot of a car/scooter/ATV/boat dealership to give her a call to let her know I was almost there.

No sooner did I get off the phone with her did I discover that some guy in a van hit a boat on a trailer parked on a high embankment. The guy hit the boat, which ended up bouncing off the top of the hood of my car and into the corner where the fence and wall met. I got out of the car to assess the damage: left headlights and turn signal lights completely blown out; grille smashed into pieces; hood badly dented; front end smashed. Thank God no one got hurt; I was just shaken up and nervous from being three feet from certain injury. There were at least 2 other witnesees to the crash.

The police, fire department, and ambulance were on the scene just in case there were injuries; no injuries, just damage to three cars and a boat! The cop who took the report informed me that the man who caused the accident fell asleep at the wheel; he got a bunch of tickets.

I think it's a blessing in disguise because I've been having car trouble from the day I got the car. This is the second time this year that I've been involved in a car accident through no fault of my own.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in Latest Breaking News
Mon Oct 18th 2010, 10:03 AM
..that when men refuse to use their power for good and instead become cowards and either commit or allow atrocities, women come to the forefront to expose male cowardice and tyranny and thus become the real heroes. These real women who have had the ovarian fortitude to stand up to evil have been, at first, regarded either as "heretics", "lunatics", or even worse--sluts, whores, etc., and have been persecuted for the malfeasance, misfeasance, and nonfeasances of the males in power.

Look at a few examples from history:
St. Joan of Arc...Dorothy Day...Susan B. Anthony...St. Teresa of Avila...now St. Mary MacKillop.

You go, girl. I hope to join you soon.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in The DU Lounge
Thu Sep 30th 2010, 11:37 AM
...Canada, and Australia. Let's have some fun with this; the more colorful and funny the expression, the better. Please be specific about the (possible) origins of the expressions you submit, as well as the meanings.

Let me begin....

God didn't die and leave you in charge (NYC and vicinity): said to someone to remind them that they don't run the show.
Fuhgeddaboutit(NYC) - never mind, no problem, you're forgiven, etc. A catchall phrase.
Not for nothin', but.. (NYC) - a way to tell someone an unpleasant but necessary thing in order to take the sting off it. Example: Not for nothin', but I think you need to hit the shower instead of telling that person he or she stinks.
Get outta here! (US) - You're kidding me. This can't be true!
I wasn't born yesterday! (US national) - I'm not an ignorant teabagger Repuke, so stop lying to me!
My birthday is (insert your b'day here), not (yesterday's date) (my own!) - a variant on "I wasn't born yesterday"!
Hotdogging (US) - showing off
No comments from the peanut gallery! (US) - Unsolicited opinions are not welcome

Anyone else care to add to the thread?
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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Wed Nov 25th 2009, 11:59 AM
As cybercriminals begin to take advantage of the holiday season, McAfee Inc. is warning consumers about the "12 Scams of Christmas" -- the 12 most dangerous online scams that computer users should be cautious of.



According to Consumer Reports’ 2009 State of the Net Survey, cybercriminals have bilked $8 billion from consumers in the past two years.

Bing: Worst ID theft cases
"Cybercriminals use their best schemes during the holidays to steal people's money, credit card information, Social Security number and identity," said Jeff Green, senior vice president of McAfee Labs. "These thieves follow seasonal trends and create holiday-related Web sites, scams and other convincing e-mails that can trick even the most cautious users."

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Smart...

To sum up, I penned a parody Xmas carol for the occasion:

The 12 Scams of Christmas
To the tune of “The 12 Days of Christmas”

On the 1st day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
A charity phishing scam

On the 2nd day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
2 fake invoices and a charity phishing scam

On the 3rd day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 4th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
4 Christmas e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 5th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 6th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 7th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam



On the 8th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
8 work-from-home scams
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 9th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
9 auction site frauds
8 work-from-home scams
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 10th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
10 thefts of passwords
9 auction site frauds
8 work-from-home scams
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

On the 11th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
11 email bank frauds
10 thefts of passwords
9 auction site frauds
8 work-from-home scams
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam






On the 12th day of Christmas
Some scammer pulled on me
12 files for ransom
11 email bank frauds
10 thefts of passwords
9 auction site frauds
8 work-from-home scams
7 spyware ringtones
6 ID thefts
5 high-priced rings
4 e-cards, 3 sham friends, 2 fake invoices
And a charity phishing scam

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Posted by StopThePendulum in The DU Lounge
Wed Aug 26th 2009, 02:40 PM
My cat Max is sick with a massive blood blister on his right ear and need to take him to the vet. I am trying to raise money to get him treated at the vet; only problem is that I'm disabled on a fixed income and cannot afford the vet care without outside help. I didn't know about the rule about prior permission from the admins to start a fundraiser. Without the funds to pay for vet treatment I have one of two difficult choices: allow the cat to suffer and face animal cruelty charges, or take him to the shelter and surrender him so he can get treatment--only I'd be minus my big baby. I need to make the payment(s) in full. $100 is all it takes to get him in one piece again. He got some of his spunk back, but he's not 100% and he goes to the vet tomorrow.

The link to the page is http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/group...

Required Disclaimer: The administrators of Democratic Underground have given permission for one discussion thread on this topic. The administrators of Democratic Underground make no claims regarding the legitimacy or illegitimacy of this fundraising effort. Permission was granted by Skinner on 8/26/09, and the moderators have been notified.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in Pets Group
Tue Jul 21st 2009, 06:18 PM
Ruby, my beloved little girl, jumped off the window sill this morning, accidentally slammed her left front paw on the lava lamp I kept on the set of drawers right next to my bed, knocking the lamp down. The lamp didn't break, thank God, but it seems as if it landed on her, although I couldn't see it clearly. She has been limping on her left front paw since.

I don't have the transportation nor the upfront money to pay for her to get fixed up (I go to the SPCA to treat my cats). I was toying with going to the store to pick up bandages, both gauze and no-stick tape, to treat her leg at home.

Experts, please give me some help and/or resources.

PM or e-mail me with suggestions. I don't want to lose my Ruby just for the inability to pay for vet treatment.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Sat Jan 03rd 2009, 11:44 AM
Animal laws are antiquated, in that they never caught up with the American culture concerning common household pets. Animals are legally regarded as mere property, not as the sentient beings they are. The laws need to catch up with this reality, and this include animal cruelty--people get off too easy with torturing and maliciously killing animals. I believe it's high time for Congress to push a Pet Parent's Bill of Rights, covering everything from encouraging adoption from shelters by giving each pet adopted from a shelter a pet tax ID for the purpose of tax breaks, banning housing discrimination against pet parents, to requiring employers to allow pet sick days to let people take their sick pets to a vet for treatment, to toughening animal cruelty laws nationwide.

I propose the idea that animals should be legally regarded not as mere property, not as humans, but in a legal class by themselves between inanimate property and persons. This should hold true especially for common household pets, e.g., cats, dogs, domesticated species of birds, guinea pigs, domesticated rabbits, etc. Pets should be protected from "murder" by punishing offenders a maximum of 20-35 years in prison; from intentional torture and/or petnapping by imposing a maximum sentence less than that of kidnapping, but more than that of mere theft of inanimate objects. This proposed protection would reflect the nature of pets not as property, but as the family members they're treated like at home.

Wild animals, especially endangered species, have more protection than household pets, yet culturally, we regard pets in more esteem than their wild cousins. Wild animals' habitats are better protected by law than the domestic animals with whom we share our homes; for instance, landlords and condo building owners can still legally discriminate against pet guardians either by charging higher rental rates to pet parents than household without cats or dogs; by imposing a high, non-refundable pet fee, ostensibly to cover property damage caused by pets, but in reality, these pet surcharges serve to discourage tenants and/or condo owners from keeping a cat and/or dog. Some landlords or homeowners' assocations even ban pets outright and evict tenants and/or condo owners, forcing the latter either to give up their animals or sell their condos. This discrimination forces human beings to choose between a roof over their heads and their beloved furkids. This injustice must be banned once and for all. Landlords and condo building owners should bear the burden of proof that the pet is antisocial and/or destructive; in other words, a pet should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Any human found guilty of keeping a pet who is proven to be unsocialized, aggressive, destructive, or any and all of the aforementioned should be required to give up the offending animal at his or her own expense. We should put an end to punishing innocent, responsible pet parents along with the guilty, irresponsible sociopaths who use animals as mere objects to be used and abused at will.
Exemptions from complying with the pet anti-discrimination law would be: homeowner is not allowed to keep a pet due to an injunction by a court of law and a tenant is bringing in a pet; if the presence of a pet creates an undue health hardship to the homeowner. Example: the homeowner wants to rent a room yet is severely allergic to cats. The prospective tenant has a cat and wants to move in with the kitty. In this case, the homeowner can tell the tenant he or she has to give up the cat because Boots would make him or her too sick to function.

I think we should be afforded a break on our income taxes if we adopted a cat or dog from a shelter. Each adopted pet would be assigned a tax ID number similar to a Social Security number, only the first character would be an F (feline) for an adopted cat or a C (canine) for an adopted dog. There would be a pet dependent allowance of $500 for each cat and $500-750 for each dog, depending on the size of the dog upon adulthood. For instance, Kitty's Tax ID would look like this: Fxx-xx-xxxx, and Doggie's would be Cxx-xx-xxxx. This number would be used solely for income tax purposes, and can be transferable for a $5.00 fee to a new guardian either upon the death of the human. If the human caregiver can no longer care for the adopted animal due to incarceration or some other reason the people can no longer keep the animal, the pet transfer fee would increase to $20.00. If the animal is brought back to the shelter, or to another shelter, the transfer fee would go up to $50.00.
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Posted by StopThePendulum in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Sat Sep 27th 2008, 03:08 PM
Nowhere Gal (to the tune of "Nowhere Man" by the Beatles)
Ode to Sarah Palin

She's a real nowhere gal
Hides behind her nowhere pal
Looking with her nowhere scowl at nobody
Has extremist points of view
Knows not where she's going to
She is nowhere near like you and me

Nowhere gal won't listen
She has several screws missin'
Nowhere Gal, witches are at your command
She's as blind as she can be
Just sees what she wants to see
Nowhere Gal, can you see me at all?

Nowhere Gal won't worry
Media are in no hurry
Leaves it all till someone else
Lends her a hand
Has extremist points of view
Knows not where she's going to
She is nowhere near like you and me

Nowhere Gal won't listen
She has several screws missin'
Nowhere Gal, witches are at your command
She's a real nowhere gal
Hides behind her nowhere pal
Looking with her nowhere scowl at nobody
Looking with her nowhere scowl at nobody
Looking with her nowhere scowl at nobody
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What if there were a Democratic Secretary of State who was also the leader of Kerry's campaign?

What if that SoS went out of his or her way to stymie the vote in Republican suburbs and/or rural areas by banning the distribution of campaign literature, including the notorious "voter guides", in or within 1000 feet of a church?

What if this Democratic SoS intentionally gave these voters misleading directions to their polling places, so that the voters couldn't find their proper polling spot, for the sole purpose of suppressing the Republican vote?

What if that same SoS put too few--and malfunctioning--voting machines in suburban/rural areas where he or she knew the electorate was predominantly evangelical? What if the malfunctioning machines caused long lines in these polling places, causing white, conservative voters to wait for hours, very far from home?

What if the SoS decreed that a rural or suburban voter had to disclose his or her personal information, including bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and SSN's just to be able to vote?

What if this SoS had connections with a database company with close ties to the Democratic Party, and hired that company to purge voter rolls, which ends up kicking Republicans off the rolls?

I'll tell you how the repukes would react if the shoe were on the other foot. They'd be screaming at the top of their lungs -- ELECTION FRAUD!! ELECTION FRAUD!! THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION!!!
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