http://www.democraticunderground.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Sat, 25 May 2013 07:14:14 Sat, 25 May 2013 07:14:14 are coercive. That does not by in itself make it authoritarian. Mandatory national service is also coercive. However that does not by in itself make it authoritarian. Some things that are coercive are authoritarian, not all (you seem to agree on that). You still have not said why this specific form ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/12 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:25:41 OK but if thats the case then education is not (certainly was not when enacted)necessary, nor are social services, I'm not trying to get into a logic exercise with you, but you're positions are still not consistent. You obviously have very libertarian views toward certain things (sexuality, reproduc... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/11 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:58:08 It just wasn't the main point of the debate. It may very well be good idea in its own right (and maybe more achievable), but since I still believe in universal service it has no relevance to my argument. Again what is the IT I am trying to force on people? A couple of years of the the civil service ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/10 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:29:43 but not what you have done thus far in your posts. Your argument has been as far as I can surmise-Mandatory national service is wrong because it is a form of coercion, and all coercion is wrong (with the possible exception of taxation for the types of services you yourself happen to support).

No... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/9 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:02:15 That the idea of universal education is popular was never in dispute. Obviously (as I believe another poster already brought up) such a large idea as mandatory national service would need popular support to be enacted into law. What was gained by making education mandatory? MUch actually. There were... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/8 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:21:45 Do you believe people have the right to "choose" if they should pay their taxes? Or comply with government regulation on their business? Or not educate their children? If you accept government coercion in some situations, then you can't just simply say EVERY form of government coercion YOU don't lik... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/7 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:50:30 Their contributing a small part of their life to a society they have a stake in and benefit from. If you're going to use the extreme libertarian slippery slope, why should people be "forced" to pay taxes they don't want to? Why should corporations be "forced" to conform to government regulation? Why... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/6 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:22:44 nation in the world where they have democratic rights as a citizen, to spend a couple years of their life giving back either in their community or abroad in the way of their choice, makes me an authoritarian, I guess I'm an authoritarian:eyes: ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/5 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:50:55 AB)To be frank; too bad if they or their family has a successful business than they owe this country for the bounty they have received from it, I'm sure they can find a way to take a couple of years to serve their nation. Yes we could give people subsides for rent and higher cost of living.

C)Aga... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/3 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:44:55 [Most] People in this society have privileges and opportunities unimaginable to most of humanity (both now and historically), I don't see how it is some great injustice to expect them to give back a little for a few years of their life, doing the service of their choice.Obviously they can follow an... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/4 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:01:05 and disturb you with a thread on what I think is an interesting policy idea, rather than thread 6 billion on why Bush is a douche bag, but since you were nice enough to humor me...


A & B)Obviously their service would be their job, if they have children they can elect to do Americorps which woul... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/2 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:49:31 Alright, just thought I would throw this out there, and sketch out a very basic plan. All Americans at the age of 18 will have do do either two years in the military, 3 in the Peace Corps, or 6 in Americorps (which could be part time as it is not quite as involving as the other 2 options). In return... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BL611/1 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:35:31