http://www.democraticunderground.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:07:14 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:07:14 Guess who is not satisfied with the Senate Health care bill. The Catholic Bishops group is calling it not just a bad bill but one of the worst they have seen.

[link:www.lifenews.com/nat5692.html| Catholic Bishops: Pro-Abortion Senate Health Care Bill "Worst We've Seen Yet"]

Guess they will be... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5263 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:01 Maybe it is a good thing this happened, this idiotic religion-based amendment that was pushed by the Catholic Bishops and allowed by our Democratic majority.

I remember pre-Roe times all too clearly. There was not only a deep shame to getting pregnant pre-marriage....there was no legal way to ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5259 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:01 We really are on the slippery slope by not recognizing anything besides death of the mother as a viable reason for a late-term abortion.

It is like we went back to the dark ages the last few years. We have let religion set the course that will determine a woman's choice....not science, not med... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5255 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:03 Marco Rubio is Jeb's crony, running as the dream of the teabaggers. He goes and speaks at their rallies. He is getting all kinds of attention from the extreme right wing.

His opponent for Senator from Florida, Governor Charlie Crist, just does not know how to handle it. Instead of letting his ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5253 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:39:44 Those are the words of Sharon Lerner in a very interesting article about why there is no requirement in the health care reform to have birth control paid for, to have pelvic exams paid for, to have STDs covered by insurance.

Lerner is the author of “The War on Moms: On Life in a Family-Unfriend... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5248 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:50:33 He must be speaking of those of us who feel the Stupak amendment went too far.

Rev. Wallis is in love with the term "secular fundamentalist", and he uses it in this apparent defense of Stupak's amendment.

This article by him sounds like we are supposed to just quit fussing and [link:blog.so... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5246 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:27:13 Arne said he was drawing a line in the sand on Meet The Press today. I could only think how ironic that the first "line in the sand" drawn by this administration is on the issue of education....with Newt Gingrich and Al Sharpton getting equal billing for their views.

The party refused to draw a ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5242 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:48:15 His speech on September 12, 1960.

Read it and compare his views with the assault on women's rights this last week.

[div class="excerpt"][i]On Sept. 12, 1960, presidential candidate John F. Kennedy gave a major speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, a group of Protestant ministe... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5237 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:17:51 This website is openly admitting that their church is trying to control the health care reform process, and they commend two good Catholics. Bart Stupak, Democrat and Chris Smith, Republican.

They admit the amendment was "forced" to a floor vote by "the heroic perseverance of the US Bishops and ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5236 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:02:40 I do. We were alarmed last year about it, but now 64 Democrats vote for an amendment that has no exception for the health of a woman. Does that mean they agreed with McCain?

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/final-debate-mccain-mocks-womens-heal

Video at the link.

"Clearly, in all h... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5260 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:59:53 There was a discussion in the Washington Post a couple of days ago about the Stupak amendment. One of the comments there by an Ob-Gyn really caught my attention.

Ignoring the health of the mother is nothing new, in fact many Democrats voted on a late term abortion ban in 2003 that only conside... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5228 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:59:28 After watching that period show from an era I remember well, I very much appreciated her comparison of the last episode or two to the weird actions of our Democratic congress this week.

From Judith Warner at the New York Times:

[link:warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/mad-men-maddening-times/... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5249 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:12:11 Public schools are suffering funding setbacks because of the economy, because funding per pupil is taken from them and given to charter schools. It is like a two-fold attack on the public schools amid good benefits for charters.

From the Seattle Education Blog here are some of the ways charter sc... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5221 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:31:33 of the separation of church and state.

I did not see her show today, and the video is not up at You Tube yet. But I did find the transcript up at the right wing site Newsbusters. I am reluctantly posting the link because it is the only place I have found the partial transcript of Dr. Nancy's in... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5219 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:46:33 Just goes to show you, doesn't it. No matter how hard you try, you just can't please everyone.

When you try too hard and compromise with extremists....they just move the goalposts and complain that they are not satisfied.

[link:www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=762846| Stupak amen... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5215 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:45:24 "We will never put ideology above women’s health."

"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right."

http://www.dnc.o... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5243 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:57 on the issue of the Stupak amendment.

[link:tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/top-wh-aides-sitting-down-with-womens-gropus-on-stupak.php?ref=fpa| Top WH Aides Sitting Down With Women's Groups, Faith Leaders On Stupak]

[div class="excerpt"]Women's rights groups enraged over the Stupak amendme... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5214 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:08:50 Those were the words of David Axelrod in June of this year on Meet the Press. He was asked about the public option by David Gregory.

[div class="excerpt"]MR. GREGORY: Well, let's be clear what we're talking about as well. You're talking about a public sponsored, a government sponsored healthcar... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5212 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:03:23 Damn, all those fussy women folks. :eyes:... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5257 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:53:33 I have been reading the posts here that are defending the Stupak amendment. I see the technical analyses saying we are over reacting, that we need calmer heads, that we are not reading it correctly.

Last night Rachel Maddow [link:journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5200| covered it... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5203 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:58:15 Not to be missed.

This attempt to curtail abortion even further than the Hyde amendment...she and Jeff Sharlet left no doubt the roots to push this Stupak amendment went very deep into the party and The Fellowship.

Sharlet thinks Pitt is mostly behind it as a long time member of The Family. ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5200 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:45:33 The New York Times covered this yesterday.

[link:www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us/politics/09abortion.html| For Abortion Foes, a Victory in Health Care Vote]

[div class="excerpt"]Both sides credited a forceful lobbying effort by Roman Catholic bishops with the success of the provision, inserted ... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5196 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:46:05 [link:www.examiner.com/x-25800-DC-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m11d8-Prochoice-movement-dealt-serious-blow-with-passage-of-Stupak-amendment-in-health-care-reform-bill| Pro-choice movement dealt serious blow with passage of Stupak amendment]

[div class="excerpt"]Pro-choice lawmakers and organizati... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5193 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:31:28 or many Democratic women will sit on their hands.

[div class="excerpt"]Maddow: "The Stupak amendment . . . is the biggest restriction on abortion funding since the Hyde Amendment, it's the biggest restriction on abortion access in this country in a generation, if it took a Democratic Preside... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5202 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:27:17 "Those ten Democrats?

Boren, Bright, Childers, Davis (AL), Griffith, Marshall, Melancon, Minnick, Loretta Sanchez, Taylor

Loretta Sanchez? Really? That's a head scratcher, as is the full list of 15 members who voted against the final rule. It's the 10 above, plus these five:

Jason A... http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/5230 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:01:01