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	Many if I do not have enough information or don't understand it
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	<description>
	I did not understand reconciliation in the Senate at all.  Recently I learned a little more about it.  This made me jaded for many a post intended to make me angry that they didn't use it.  I can see it is limited.  But am not sure yet how it applies and what it could cover or not.<br />
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Same with the ...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/79
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:07:11
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	the teabaggers were out there marching
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	<description>
	but the Progressives never were, and Congress could see that.  <br />
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The right also gets fired up and works hard even when down.  The progressives, if DU really represented them, quit when they don't get everything they want.<br />
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IMO even if we somehow got single payer they'd be finding fault with it. ...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/78
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	<pubDate>
	Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:09:44
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	I can't condone giving up like that
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	<description>
	The &quot;change&quot; could take many different forms for many different people.<br />
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to me a president is an office so high up that the change need only be in general philosophy - Obama's approach to foreign policy being opposite of Bush's is enough for me.  Also his saying we would stay within our ideals, no...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/77
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	<pubDate>
	Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:16:45
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	I'm not the most educated
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	person on this, maybe someone else can add things.<br />
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They didn't get much of what they want.  <br />
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Several that I know vote on only one thing:  abortion.  That's no closer to being a crime again than it was in 1973, yet they still keep voting only on that issue.  I know some of them voted for McPuke...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/76
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	<pubDate>
	Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:27:40
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	<title>
	Reading DU:RA
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	<description>
	It would really be pretty repetitive:<br />
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OBAMA HAS SOLD US OUT!!<br />
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I feel betrayed.  <br />
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They could do this so easy through reconciliation so it proves all they want is to serve the corporations!<br />
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Corporate whores!<br />
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Insurance company giveaway!  Insurance company stocks soaring!  This proves it ...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/75
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:48:04
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	You're the one that said wrong thing or nothing at all
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	<description>
	If you understand how it works, then you'd be resigned to the fact that the far left will generally get little of what it wants fast enough.  You wouldn't be snarky or impatient and saying it'd be so simple if they'd just do such and such.  <br />
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The progressives do get heard - I'm sick of that compla...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/74
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:49:48
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	<title>
	Right.  Say defendant thinks his fourth amendment rights were violated
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	<description>
	Defendant's lawyer argues that the search warrant was not based on probable cause, for example.  The government, both state and federal, has lawyers that defend the police in that instance, argue that the warrant was based on probable cause.  This doesn't mean the government and its lawyers are agai...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/73
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	<pubDate>
	Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:24:49
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	I'd suggest reading the case
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	http://www.justice.gov/osg/briefs/2008/0responses/2008-0235.resp.html government's argument<br />
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Cert. denied, so DC Circuit stands:<br />
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http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rasul-ii-4-24-09.pdf...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/72
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:30:55
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	This case is very early in process
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	<description>
	It so far appears to be ex parte.  A low level administrator just following what they see to be the normal procedure.<br />
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This has a long way to go, so jumping on it to slam Obama is just looking for an excuse to jump.<br />
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http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/articlefiles/Jan13_2009_USCA9_EDR_Order.pdf<br />
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http...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/71
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:14:05
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	<title>
	This case is very early in process
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	<description>
	It so far appears to be ex parte.  A low level administrator just following what they see to be the normal procedure.<br />
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This has a long way to go, so jumping on it to slam Obama is just looking for an excuse to jump.<br />
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http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/articlefiles/Jan13_2009_USCA9_EDR_Order.pdf<br />
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http...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/70
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:13:53
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	<title>
	It's the way other people make a living that is wrong
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	<description>
	On DU, whatever the poster does is the most important job, and the poster should be protected from all competition, but if that prevents others from working, well too bad.  :sarcasm:  If you work for an insurance company, your job should be immediately eliminated regardless of consequences.  :sarcas...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/69
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:14:38
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	<title>
	They are usually saying that the government should roll over and
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	<description>
	play dead on every case - just give up the government's side of the case because Bushco was clearly wrong.  But that's not necessarily the case very single time - there could be legal issues.  The media never goes into that.  If you read the case, you might see the legal issue. <br />
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Even the Bush Adm...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/68
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	<pubDate>
	Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:15:25
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	<title>
	You're doing the same thing in reverse though
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	<description>
	that it is a duty and a necessity to rip the President for all you're worth.  <br />
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No one here is saying just follow the Pres. because he is Pres.  They are at least citing some substance to defend his position.  Or in my case most of the time, simply calling out bad logic.  <br />
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The President did fai...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/67
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	<pubDate>
	Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:57:37
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	<title>
	Good editorial
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	[div class=&quot;excerpt&quot;] cadre of progressive bloggers who share Moyers’ half-developed vision – that corporate power must be stopped but who don’t offer a shred of suggestion or vision about what to replace it with – type their denouncements furiously on computer systems produced by Microsoft or Apple...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/66
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:17:48
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	<title>
	I don't know how you can be so sure of how to do everything
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	<description>
	Everybody makes mistakes, but if I knew how to do things like this, I figure I'd probably have gotten the job of Congressperson or WH advisor.<br />
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Sorry but there's a point where some of this is just hard to just jump on the bandwagon with.  I'd need to know a lot more about how it works.  From what ...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/65
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:08:36
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	<title>
	When you pay into Social Security
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	<description>
	It's like insurance.  Does the government just keep that money or does it invest it somewhere?<br />
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Is the 401k plan an outrage?  It uses taxes to encourage people to put their money in retirement plans, all of which must enrich Wall Street.  <br />
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I think it is more complex than that.  Distrust of Wall...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/64
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:46:59
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	Let's not buy or rent houses
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	<description>
	That puts money in the hands of the construction industry.<br />
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I should not have bought that car, it just put money into GMs pockets.  GM is a huge corporation and it ripped me off.<br />
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Let's quit going to doctors.  They are rich, and seeking their help just lines their pockets.  <br />
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Quit buying auto ...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/63
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:09:31
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	<title>
	No, but I don't see that here
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	<description>
	Just the opposite, using them to oppose the war.  Saying they will be deployed, claiming to be related to one, they could get hurt or killed there, and therefore, one must oppose the war.  <br />
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I always agreed we could oppose the war without undermining the troops, that those were separate questions,...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/61
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	<pubDate>
	Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:33:26
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	If you prosecute lawyers for advice
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	<description>
	You open up a real slippery slope.  <br />
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Are you saying the accused at Nuremberg had no right to a legal defense?<br />
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Why not apply that to drunk drivers - or those accused of it?  You know, how can you defend drunk drivers?  Or child molesters?  <br />
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This is not one worth hitching your star to - you k...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/60
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	<pubDate>
	Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:18:24
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	I'm not sure, because we got the President we wanted
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	<description>
	I don't think I would denigrate the Republican choice to automatically trust their President.  <br />
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They wanted us to trust the Presidency itself with powers that never belonged to it and we argued correctly against that. <br />
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They trusted a moron.  They trusted a warmonger, because they were warmonge...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/59
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	<pubDate>
	Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:03:15
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	<title>
	I'm not quite sure
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	<description>
	Which jobs are valid and which aren't.  My present idea from DU is that IT workers and people who work for the auto companies should have no competition from outside the U.S.  Everyone else's jobs are not as important as that.  <br />
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People who work for banks or insurance companies are evil.  Or, thei...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/58
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	<pubDate>
	Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:58:30
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	<title>
	Priest tonight was trying to tell us to vote repuke
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	<description>
	Not directly, but going on about who has voted for &quot;life.&quot;<br />
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It kind of made me see directly:  why don't Catholics just say that as Catholics they don't do abortions.  They are free to follow that rule in the good old freedom of religion USA.  Why is it necessary that the government have anything t...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/57
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	<pubDate>
	Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:56:38
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	I never can understand why those anti-choicers don't see it
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	<description>
	I can understand being against abortion to a point, I really can.  Yet if one were truly against it, one would realize that just voting for a candidate who appears to agree for President is completely ineffective in either preventing the number of abortions or making it illegal again even.  It's a l...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/56
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	<pubDate>
	Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:00:07
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	<title>
	A miracle has occurred
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	<description>
	for the first time in my life, I received an email that was ON OUR SIDE!!!!<br />
<br />
Here is the content:<br />
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Dear MoveOn member,<br />
<br />
Did you watch Sarah Palin's speech last night? The speech told us a lot about her.<br />
<br />
It told us that she can distort the facts and deliver mean-spirited zingers with the bes...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/55
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	<pubDate>
	Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:42:25
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	<title>
	It points out that the US is made of immigrants
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	<description>
	And always will be.  Making scapegoats of immigrants is low for this country.  <br />
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Immigration and emigration and natural and have always occurred.  It should be worked with, rather than the way we have made arbitrary laws we can't enforce and then get all offended that some pay no attention to them...
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	http://journals.democraticunderground.com/treestar/54
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	<pubDate>
	Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:07:41
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