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Bragi's Publick Occurences
Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Wed Oct 26th 2011, 07:25 AM
Based on 2what's happening right now, the #OccupyEverywhere tactic is clearly unsustainable because a) it is too vulnerable to "legal" attack and dispersement by the security apparatus of the 1%, and b) it is not a tactic in which most members of the 99% can participate, what with them having life stuff to do. (That's a statement of fact, not in any way a criticism of anyone participating in the occupations/protests.) Because of this, it isn't hard to foresee that most of these occupations will...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Wed Aug 10th 2011, 10:46 AM
You want facts on the marginalized no-hope youth in UK who have been written off by society? Okay, here's a start for you: Social Class, Youth Crime and Justice (Link) Being tough on the causes of crime: Tackling family breakdown to prevent youth crime (Link) The Cost of Exclusion: Counting the cost of youth disadvantage in the UK (Link) UK ranked low on youth wellbeing (Link) I believe that even a small amount of research will confirm that the UK has serious social problems with margin...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Tue Aug 09th 2011, 09:33 AM
In one NBC report, a young man in Tottenham was asked if rioting really achieved anything: "Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?" "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you." That quote is from a blog posting from a bright young woman in London whose analysis puts the righ...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Wed Jul 27th 2011, 10:04 AM
I think he will come to realize that as he presides over the coming collapse.
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Wed Apr 06th 2011, 02:34 PM
As the well-orchestrated MSM media blackout continues, Jones is being forced once again to turn his attention to ever-smaller and more obscure media outlets to get his bizarre message out. Yesterday he was apparently in SoCal appearing on Truth TV, an Arabic language Christian network. See (Link) I raise this here for the attention of those who keep incorrectly claiming that the problem here is hyping by irresponsible US media, who should just ignore Jones. Well that isn't the problem, and ...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Mon Apr 04th 2011, 08:07 AM
Jones received zero coverage in US MSM from September to last Friday, when the murderous mobs appeared in Afghanistan, urged on my Imams and by Karzai. The US MSM did not cover his January announcement of his trial of the Koran, they did not cover his stunt burning of the Koran, they did not cover his announcement that he was going to the UK to speak, and they did not cover the story about him subsequently being banned from the UK. So if they were so keen on ratings, and he is such a ratings g...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Mon Apr 04th 2011, 07:45 AM
Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) — Top U.S. officials in Afghanistan on Sunday condemned the burning of a Quran in the United States that sparked three days of protests in which more than 20 people died. Burning the Muslim holy book “was hateful, it was intolerant and it was extremely disrespectful and again, we condemn it in the strongest manner possible,” said Gen. David Petraeus, who heads the U.S.-led international forces in Afghanistan. U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry said in a statement that Ame...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Mon Apr 04th 2011, 06:02 AM
I'm glad the mods are allowing this discussion kind of to occur here. All too often in the past here, critical discussion of political Islam has been quickly shut down, with just about anyone who is critical of Islamic radicals seeing their posts deleted after complaints by hyper-sensitive participants who generally blame others for atrocities by Islamic radicals. I'm grateful that people are being allowed to vent and debate this time. This is what we need to do if we are to sort out what ma...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Mon Apr 04th 2011, 05:33 AM
They have already tried self-censorship -- they didn't report anything about Jones recent Koran book-0burning stunt until Friday, when the murderous mobs appeared. That's why so many Americans are now confused about this and understandably think the riots on Friday were somehow a spillover from last Septembers canceled Koran-burning. The murderous mobs learned of the stunt through other sources, the main one being a statement condemning Jones by made by Afghan President Karzai, which was then...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Sat Apr 02nd 2011, 10:28 PM
You seem to think that free speech rights should be limited if they might rile up a group that may become violent, lawless and crazy at some vague future point. I don't think many would agree with you on that. I doubt many people want to see the limits of their free speech rights defined by groups that are violent, lawless and crazy.
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Sat Apr 02nd 2011, 09:39 PM
The mobs were not informed of Jones burning of the Quran by irresponsible US media. People there learned of it mostly because (the always-helpful) Afghan Pres Karzai made a statement condemning it 4 days after it happened. (Link) Going on a tirade against MSM media on this is misdirection.
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion
Fri Mar 18th 2011, 08:25 AM
There have been several threads here of late about military and corporate campaigns to mount social media PR campaigns that involve using multiple sock puppets to push PR messages. For example, here: (Link) Personally, I don't think the social media campaigns of the military and corporate interests are really intended simply to insert their PR messages into the online peer-to-peer conversation using paid-for fake personas. Rather, I think the real goal of these ostensible PR campaigns is to ...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Thu Mar 10th 2011, 10:52 AM
However, what I don't understand is how Assange could be extradited if the U.S can't even find any laws that he may have broken. And even if the U.S finds or invents a law, given that the U.S has a death penalty, given that U.S politicians have openly called for the extrajudicial murder of Assange, given that the U.S is known to be a rogue torture state, and given that the attachment of the U.S to the rule of law in security cases is at best suspect, I'm having difficulty seeing how an extradi...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Thu Mar 10th 2011, 08:10 AM
I fully support Wikileaks, and think Assange is a brave and really smart guy. Having said that, I just finished reading the book on him and WL by the Guardian reporters. The info there has caused me to want to be cautious about investing too heavily in the "frame-up" theory that Assange just fell into an orchestrated classic "honey trap". I say this because the Guardian reporters looked closely into Assange Swedish mess, and concluded, I think fairly, that he may simply be an aggressive and po...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Wed Mar 09th 2011, 03:42 PM
You wrote: Weird that you replied to me but talked about me not to me. Anyway, glad you agree It's just a debating style, one that I think has merit in some settings. The idea is that each person address their arguments to a dispassionate observer. It can help avoid getting personal. (I live in a country with a British style parliamentary democracy, and matters are debated through the speaker in such parliaments.) You then wrote: King has expressed his "concerns" and the response isn't "shut...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Thu Dec 02nd 2010, 09:05 AM
Seriously, I'm 60 years old and I have the good fortune to be semi-retired now. I could retire completely, but choose not to because I enjoy working half-throttle in my professional area. (I write and do public policy consulting work.) However, there is no way whatsoever that I can imagine working in my profession until I'm 69. I'm in good health, but I just don't have the energy levels needed to perform at anything close to a full-time level' let along"compete" with people 20 and 30 years youn...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Wed Dec 01st 2010, 11:05 AM
For me, there has been almost nothing that has been encouraging or positive about the various post-9/11 "new normals" inflicted on us by the MIC. (Hi, Overlords!) Wikileaks is the exception. I like everything about what they're doing, and I think what they're doing is vitally important to countering the misinformation and ignorance that has eaten away at American democracy. Now, at long last, there is finally a real "new normal", and it is Wikileaks. What is truly amazing is seeing the haple...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue Nov 30th 2010, 01:20 PM
But that's about all I agree with in your statement. You say removing the deduction would reduce the ability of low-income people to own a home. I ask, so what? What matters isn't if people own or rent homes, what matters is that they have affordable quality housing. Whether they own or rent is quite secondarty. You wrote: The deduction is equal for high vs. low income persons as it is the total amount of interest so it is proportionate to their individual means and no one segment of societ...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Tue Nov 30th 2010, 08:21 AM
The claim being made by several posters in this thread that Sharia law has never been used in U.S courts is simply not true. Sharia law was cited by a NJ judge in 2009 in deciding a rape case (Note: this judgment was subsequently overruled by higher courts.) Note as follows: "In the discussion and debate surrounding Question 755, supporters in search of an example where the bogeyman shariah was permitted inside American courtrooms kept pointing to a New Jersey case where the court denied a re...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Fri Nov 26th 2010, 12:23 PM
Part of the unhappy ending I fear is that this is the kind of situation that American right-wing haters will use to promote Islamophobia. Typically, the response from the left will be to ignore it as long as possible, and when forced to deal with it, to make a muted statement of perfunctory outrage about the actual events, coupled with a strong condemnation of the other side for being racists (which they are), a forceful appeal for tolerance and harmony (which will sound stupid to many in the ...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 08:39 PM
you agree with JW's shit & you'll deny it (of course) Now there's a good rhetorical technique. You make an accusation against someone, and then you foretell what the other person will say in response. You follow this up with a claim to be part of a group called "many of us here" who apparently see through "your efforts to defend free speech." Finally, you conclude your address on a high note, explaining that you personally "feel WAY better than being a anti-Muslim bigot." Well okay. I hope...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 08:22 PM
I don't question the fact that NPR apparently had a legal right to fire him. Given their ambiguous code of conduct, they can probably fire any employee just about whenever they want. My point is not to bemoan or condemn their decision, I'm just saying I don't think they were wise to make it. They had options, and could have, for example, apologized and moved on, it happens all the time. You don't have to fire people every time there's a mistake made, especially if it is a less than totally ...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 06:29 PM
I have a feeling this may not play out well for NPR. They are now back in the divisive non-lucrative culture war zone big-time, not because they are standing for some great principle, or defending tough and courageous reporting, but over sacking an on-air personality for expressing personal views on another network that were more stupid than offensive, but which apparently transgressed NPR's byzantine code of ethics that makes "analysis" okay but bans "punditry" and "commentary" (huh?), thereb...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 06:22 PM
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 03:01 PM
I believe there can be "reasonable censorship" in certain situations, though I may define it more narrowly than most. However, the issue here isn't whether Williams is being preemptively censored through dismissal, because I think the facts are that he is being preemptively censored. The real issue is whether what he said justified this censorship. Personally, I thought what he said was dumb, and it might have offended some, but I don't think it justified his dismissal. (And yes dear reade...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 11:01 AM
I used to never see eyes-only or full-face veilings, but I'd say I may see 1 or 2 women each week now wearing them. I know that this these Saudi-Wahhabists are a very tiny minority of Muslims generally, and in my city. However, in all honesty (which I find one has to be increasingly careful about on this topic) they creep me out. I see their garb (which I understand is cultural, not religious) as a symbol and tool of the extreme oppression and subservience of women that is part of Wahhabis...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 08:19 AM
The general sentiment here seems to be that it's a fine thing to fire a conservative commentator on NPR, and that NPR should fire any other conservatives they might have on air so that NPR can offer a contrary point of view to what you find on Fox. I think this would not be a good idea. If we are ever to have anything resembling intelligent political discourse, then we need to have people with different viewpoints engaging with each other in discussion and debate. If things evolve such that w...
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Posted by Bragi in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Oct 22nd 2010, 07:10 AM
I saw a Saudi-style niqab-clad woman in a store last week, accompanied, of course, by a young son or other male relative. From my reading, I know that if she went out alone, even dressed in that Saudi-inspired reactionary garb, she would be a disgrace to the honour of her family, and could be killed with impunity by her male relatives for this under the Wahhabist interpretation of sharia law. (Note: This is an undeniable fact, and "honour killings" do happen.) Unlike those here who see such...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Thu Oct 21st 2010, 06:56 AM
I find it disturbing how little support there is on this board for anything resembling the exercise of free speech with which we disagree. Personally, I don't share Williams' overall anxiety about Muslims, but the fact is that the spread of radical politicized Islamicism is very much a contemporary issue and concern not just with Fox news viewers, but with many Americans, Euros, etc. So this fellow Williams makes what seem to be some quite very mild statements reflecting this anxiety, and he...
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Posted by Bragi in Latest Breaking News
Wed Oct 13th 2010, 10:06 AM
I think there is need to understand a few things to approach this topic intelligently. If we simply declare that any and all concerns about the possible application of Sharia law are simply unfounded, then I don't think we will be doing much to advance intelligent public discussion of this matter. In this context, and based on my own reading and research, I note as follows: 1. First of all, we should acknowledge that yes, most countries with a Muslim majority do include Sharia law as at least ...
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