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DrDebug's 9/11 investigation
Posted by DrDebug in September 11
Sat Jul 15th 2006, 07:01 PM
9/11 hypothesis
In 1986 Paul Bremer was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc.

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation (U.S. front for the international intelligence agency Le Cercle): "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer worked in 1999 at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management, an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll, a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named by at least governments as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda, the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint, the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan. The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July it was reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited, a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm, the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill, the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

Mass. Electric Construction, a wire specialist, is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States with support from many more nations, who are often featured in 9/11 as well, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger - a name featured in 9/11 as well - was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

The Kean Commission was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. Elias Davidsson has demonstrated with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control.

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread above. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Flights investigation
Flight 11
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    Flight 175
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    Flight 77
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    Flight 93
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Mon Jul 10th 2006, 10:06 AM
    I think that the conclusion is that too much is written in Spanish and it's too hard to digest for me. There are just a couple of summaries in English and German and that's it and even though with the help of Babelfish you can understand a lot of it, it is lacking the clarity you need.

    John Cleary's hypothesis has already been mentioned and he is the man responsible for busting and disgracing Jeffrey Archer, Maggie's best man and candidate for mayor of London. Therefore he has some credit with some people like me. (How come whistleblowers are extremely easy to talk to. You would think that they have a hero status, however they are all on the internet and you can just talk to them. Funny world...)

    Madrid 11-M hypothesis
    Recently oil has been discovered in Equatorial Guinea to the great delight of dictator Obiang of the empoverished nation and the big oil companies. The gentlemen decided to take full advantage of the oil of course. The inhabitants of Equatorial Guinea were of course less important or not important at all. Since the relationship with Spain is not very good, Repsol only got one small oil field. Marathon Oil of the US did manage to get good oil fields.

    Gabon, which does have some oil but not enough, became very interested as well. Especially since the oil richest area is Corsico Bay which is a disputed area with Equatorial Guinea, a country with hardly any military. Therefore Gabon grabbed Mbange island in February 2003 (some sources say 2002) and plans to let Elf/Total and Shell explore the oil, because those are Gabon's partners.

    Repsol, already frustrated, conspired with Marathon Oil, some people like Mark Thatcher, Jeffrey Archer, the UK government, the US government and the Spanish government to grab Equatorial Guinea and install Severo Moto as the new president.

    They hired a friendly team called Executive Outcomes in Sierra Leone and Angola and send them to Equatorial Guinea to install Severo Moto as President. Two Spanish warships set sail to Equatorial Guinea to help guard the "peace" as a nice gesture and perhaps return Mbange to its previous owner. Severo Moto would thank them, give $1B of oil per year to Marathon Oil (US) and $4B of oil per year to Repsol (Spain) and special gifts to Mark Thatcher and all the others who made it happen.

    What they forgot that France has good intelligence as well and it was Total's oil, so the French set out to foil the coup d'etat by ratting the mercenaries out to Zimbabwe and South Africa who arrested the mercenaries on March 7, 2004. Friendly nations are not allowed to engage in war anymore, but proxy wars are still fine.

    The Spanish elections were due for March 14, 2004, so the Spanish government started to panic, because the coup d'etat could lead directly back to them and their Repsol. So Marsh, a partner of Repsol's Equatorial Guinea coup, was ordered to plan some diversions at the last possible moment and one of them was an ETA attack in Madrid (which was probably like an Operation Northwoods which they still had in their drawer).

    The problem was that Marsh is allegedly known for 9/11 and Iraqi style al-Qaeda attacks which involved multiple bombings and was far more professional then the ETA ever did. On March 10, 2004 President Obiang started to point the finger at US, UK and Spain. The media could keep it a bit silence because it's a dictator with a terrible human rights record, however they couldn't afford this coup to leak to the press prior to the elections, so the go ahead was given for 11-M.

    On the morning of 11-M Madrid was attacked by a series of train bombs killing 192 people as a divertion and a means to win the elections. Two things went wrong: The script was totally different from the ETA plan which Aznar had because it was all done at the last moment so the team used their al-Qaeda tactics. Also the people of Madrid who were already tired of hearing about Iraq started to revolt against Aznar.

    The amount of lies and lack of coordination made a re-election for Aznar completely impossible especially since they started to blame al-Qaeda next, however there were no suicide bombers in the original script since that was an ETA script and there were many more inconsistencies and lies.

    From March 12 onwards the streets of Madrid and many other cities were filled with massive protests. Aznar tried to ask King Juan Carlos to postpone the election however he refused to prevent a further escalation of tension since 11 million people had already taken to the streets. In a state of complete panic Aznar removed all traces of eight years in government.

    Zapatero was faced by a serious dilemma. On the one hand he won the elections, on the other hand 60% of his country's oil depended on Repsol and there were traces to his secret services, politicians, key people in the ministeries. He had no choice to cover it up. An 11-M commission was assigned to do a similar job as the 9/11 commission even though it is more detailed.

    The same script was used by blaming the terrorist attacks on the drug dealers working for the secret services and piling lie upon lie. The popularity of Zapatero has since then diminished to Bushian levels as well.

    That ends my hypothesis. This thing is not proven, it is just a plausible scenario.

    A couple of remarks for those who read this and want to investigate:
    1. Start with the drug dealers.
    2. The drug dealers need to launder their money, so next step is find the insurance company / bank who launders for them.
    3. Find traces for the team(s) used. This will be very hard, however it is probably privatized like 9/11 and probably includes Kroll/Marsh

    =-=-= =-=-= =-=-= =-=-= Clippings =-=-= =-=-= =-=-= =-=-=

    Some dates of interest from the investigation of March 11th 2004. 29 of the 34 persons now in prison accusated for the attacks are informers or controlled subjects of the spanish police or secret services.

    They are small drug-dealers and similars.

    After reading the public documents of Judge Juan del Olmo preparing the trial one sees the huge ammount of false testimonies and faked prooves used to incriminate those guys.

    The official version, Al-Queda or islamic radicals are authors of the Massaker is a giant hoax.

    The Massaker was necessarily executed with the help of members of the spanish security services.

    Putting this in context with the surrender of the spanish Government to the terrorists of ETA ,one has to think that ETA knows about the real authorship of the massaker and has prooves about it.

    The truth is terrible , spanish politicians of the actual government and black sheep in the police , possibly with collaboration of ETA are the murderers of 192 innocent spanish subjects.

    http://toastedbread.wordpress.com/2006/06/... /


    Marsh & Kroll in Spain
  • Correduria de Seguros (brokerage)
  • Kroll Associates Iberia, S.L. (intelligence)
  • Kroll Ontrack Iberia, S.L.U (data recovery unit which they had to buy because of the 9/11's inside trading )
  • Marsh Privat, A.I.E. (private investigator)
  • Marsh Risk Consulting, S.L. (<- had some "interesting" seminars)
  • Marsh, S.A. Mediadores de Seguros (insurance mediators)
  • U.T.E. Marsh - Aon Gil y Carvajal (risk management, Insurance Agents, Brokers & Service)
  • U.T.E. Marsh - CCM
  • U.T.E. Marsh - Chang
  • U.T.E. Marsh - Disbrok
  • U.T.E. Marsh - Salvado
  • U.T.E. Marsh McLennan - Cobian & Cobian - La Coruna

    The Mystery of the Explosives

    Finally, on September 14th, eighteen months after the attacks, Luis del Pino, brought us back to the trains in a very successful way. He published in Libertad Digital the testimony of the provincial chief of the TEDAX (Technicians in Explosive Deactivation) in Madrid, that is included in the 3/11 Judicial Summary. This was the person in charge of coordinating the four units, one working in each attacked train, which searched for unexploded devices and began the investigation on March 11th.

    Surprisingly, this subordinate of Sanchez-Manzano, who unlike him is a real TEDAX promoted by experience, declared before the judge, on July 12th 2004, that:

    1) The visual inspection he carried out in arriving at Atocha station revealed that the damage in the trains could not be caused by dynamite, but by some type of military explosive, like C3 or C4.

    2) Nevertheless, the two deactivated rucksacks (one in Atocha and another one in El Pozo stations, numbers 11 and 12) contained some other type of explosive, because the procedures of deactivation anticipated for C3 or C4 failed. That is, the rucksacks found without exploding contained something different from the bombs that had exploded.

    3) The TEDAX gather samples and vestiges for a forensic analysis. Usually, says the inspector in his declaration, those samples and rests are taken to the office of the Provincial Group of the TEDAX. Nevertheless, that day, against the habitual procedure, the samples were taken to the central office of the TEDAX, directed by Sanchez-Manzano.

    4) Finally, this inspector of the TEDAX revealed to the judge the reason why the rucksack of Vallecas, the #13, had not exploded. It was because there were loose two wires and he informed him that that was known from March 12th, because before deactivating the device of Vallecas, a X-ray was performed to the rucksack.

    First, this information, that the bomb #13, the one that leaded the Police towards the Moroccans arrested just before the Elections, was not intended to explode, was hidden from the media and thus from the public at decisive moments.

    Second, we all were being told (tell a lie one thousand times and it will become a truth) that the terrorists used in the attacks dynamite Goma-2 ECO sourced in Asturias, that ended in the hands of a group of Islamic extremists that were being observed by security forces, easily cornered after the attack and forced to commit suicide.

    Much more at link:

    http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/0079...


    Strange Coincidences in Madrid

    Some very strange coincidences about the 3/11 bombings in Madrid have come to light. El Mundo, the Spanish-language daily, has been investigating the entire incident.

    The blogger Barcepundit has been translating some of thethe Spanish articles into English , and here is a good summary article from Frank Gaffney at NRO (hat-tip to Chrenkoff for all of these.)

    In an effort to completely blow out my bandwidth for the month, and to clearly depict the strange coincidences and relationships in the investigation, I've created the chart below. See an explanation of each number under the chart.



    http://www.theadventuresofchester.com/arch...

    See also:
    http://barcepundit-english.blogspot.com/20...
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Fri Jul 07th 2006, 07:38 AM
    Personally I think that most things have been documented. It's not perfect, but it's very strong and I think it gives a good overview of 9/11. Still needs summaries, additional material, references, however I am very pleased. Other events like 3/11 and 7/7 have mentioned as well. There is a theory about 3/11 which needs further study. 7/7 has many questions and it'll take time before we'll get to the stage where 9/11 is at this point, however I am very hopeful and didn't expect that we could have solved this to this level being mere amateurs.

    Everybody and every company mentioned here is innocent until proven guilty. There can be reasonable doubt for many of the players. In my humble opinion it is Rudy Giulani who has gone beyond reasonable doubt ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu... ).

    Let's hope that all this documentation will come to positive fruitation.

    In memoriam:


    http://www.september11victims.com/septembe...
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Fri Jul 07th 2006, 07:13 AM

    Rea·son·a·ble

    Capable of reasoning; rational: a reasonable person.
    Governed by or being in accordance with reason or sound thinking: a reasonable solution to the problem.
    Being within the bounds of common sense: arrive home at a reasonable hour.
    Not excessive or extreme; fair: reasonable prices.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rea...


    Open question to Rudolph Giulani
    Mr. Giulani. Can you explain your presence in London on 7/7 with reasonable arguments. Because that is the most important word here. Your behavior during September 11 was such that the mayor can be considered a major suspect and I think that in this multi-part thread there is sufficient documentation. There are many unanswered questions with regards to 9/11 specifically the destruction of over one million tons of evidence in a crime against humanity and a bunker high up in the air which wasn't needed for its intended purpose. The key question is London, because that defies reasonable doubt IMO.
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Fri Jul 07th 2006, 04:41 AM

    July 7th Timeline of Events

    An introduction to the many and varied reports of what happened on July 7th. This is working document with regular updates.

    11 September 2001

    The Mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, was organising a ‘terror drill’ called Tripod II at New York’s Pier 92.

    (...)

    6th July 2005
    London awarded 2012 Olympics, leading to a mood of national jubilation G8 summit begins in Scotland, President Bush arrives at 3 pm. Mayor Giuliani, over from New York, spoke to UK councillors in Harrogate, Yorkshire, at a Local Government Association conference. He praised the ‘war on terror’ being conducted by Bush and Blair and the importance of taking a tough stance on the matter. He then travelled down to London that evening, staying at a hotel at Liverpool Street near where the Aldgate tube bomb went off. The purpose of his visit remained undisclosed.

    The Day of July 7th

    http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-timeli...


    Investigating the 7/7 attacks
    http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/foru...


    No al-Qaeda link (duh!)

    The official inquiry into the 7 July London bombings will say the attack was planned on a shoestring budget from information on the internet, that there was no 'fifth-bomber' and no direct support from al-Qaeda, although two of the bombers had visited Pakistan.

    The first forensic account of the atrocity that claimed the lives of 52 people, which will be published in the next few weeks, will say that attacks were the product of a 'simple and inexpensive' plot hatched by four British suicide bombers bent on martyrdom.

    Far from being the work of an international terror network, as originally suspected, the attack was carried out by four men who had scoured terror sites on the internet. Their knapsack bombs cost only a few hundred pounds, according to the first completed draft of the government's definitive report into the blasts.

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/sto...


    I think it was an international terror network...


    77 unanswered questions concerning 7/7 :
    by John Doe II

    This list is not a conclusive judgement on the investigation as it is still ongoing but a list that will help measure the quality of the investigation. A real investigation should come up with answers to every single question. Presenting this list is also a way of documenting that the critical public follows the investigation very carefully and has all theses questions it wished to be answered. Contrary to most of the media who have apparently forgotten that asking questions was once the main aspect of investigative journalism.

    1. On 7/7 it was reported that the first blast happened at 8:51 (Liverpool Street), the second at 8:56 (King?s Cross/Russell Square)and the third at 9:17 (Edgware Road).

    Later this timeline was changed and it was said that the first three blasts happened within 50 seconds. The Metropolitan Police states: These timings are supported by software used by London Underground to monitor the lines.

    Why did it take 2 whole days to realize that the timeline was completely wrong ?

    2. On 7/7 it was noted 0924 British Transport Police say the incident was possibly caused by a collision between two trains, a power cut or a power cable exploding. Police report "walking wounded".

    3. The given explanation for the wrong timeline was: They attributed the discrepancy to the fact that no one phoned in the explosion at the Edgware Road station as a bomb until 9:17 a.m. -- some 25 minutes after it actually occurred.

    4. Taken for granted that in fact there was no possibility to inform anybody in the outside world then why was apparently the informing of the outside world possible immediately in the first blast, five minutes later for the second and 26 minutes for the third? Why the big discrepancies in this three cases?

    (...)

    77. It is claimed that the UK received some warnings prior to 7/7

    And not to forget:
    Why does Premier Tony Blair rule out a bomb inquiry?

    http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/foru...



    7/7 and 9/11 : Too many parallels
    by John Doe II

    Every researcher of 911 must immediately have realized the many striking parallels between 9/11 and 7/7. Parallels not in the way the operation was done but striking parallels in many details that already for 911 raised suspicion.

    Here a short list of the parallels:
    (I won't give the sources for 911. They are well known. If anybody needs sources please let me know)

  • Exercises that took place before and show strong parallels to what actually happened:
  • Exercise taking place the same day:
  • One scenario in particular, was very similar to real time events.
  • Identification papers survive mysteriously:
  • Security Cameras that don't work:
  • Timeline disputes:
  • Return tickets:
  • Suspect was surveilled and then got lost:
  • Bomber was surveilled and then got lost:
  • Warnings:
  • No investigation:

    http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/foru...



  • Kingstar
    by The Antogonist











    Kingstar offer a number of other services, the most interesting of which, to the mind of The Antagonist, is that of "controlled demolition", more specifically:



    http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2005/08/77-...


    Kingstar a part of AMEC. See Pentagon. See "WTC" Controlled Cleanup.

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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Thu Jul 06th 2006, 10:55 AM
    Seemslikeadream requested that I dump some 3/11 stuff here as well and she found out the Riggs bank connection. I haven't read it yet, so it's still working in progress, however John Cleary talked about this story.

    ---+---+---+--- ---+---+---+--- ---+---+---+--- ---+---+---+---

    The 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings (also known as 11/3, 3/11, M-11 and 11-M) were a series of coordinated terrorist bombings against the commuter train system of Madrid, Spain on the morning of 11 March 2004, which killed 191 people and wounded 1,460. (1)

    On March 10, 2004, President Obiang of Equatorial Guinea announced that there was a complex plot to overthrow him that involved the intelligence services of the United States, the United Kingdom and Spain. Shortly after 15 people were arrested in Equatorial Guinea in connection with a possible coup attempt, an airplane landed in Harare, Zimbabwe and was promptly detained by authorities. (2)

    The aircraft was carrying armed mercenaries who were heading to Equatorial Guinea with the aim of toppling Obiang's government. President Obiang charges that various Western governments wanted to install the head of Equatorial Guinea's government-in-exile, Severo Moto Nsá, as president. A man that Equatoguinean media identified as the leader of the mercenaries, Nick du Toit, said he had not intended to kill Obiang, but had hoped to force him into exile. (2)

    Links have been discovered between senior American military officials and the failed coup plot in Equatorial Guinea that has left Sir Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret, facing trial in South Africa. Theresa Whelan, a member of the Bush administration in charge of African affairs at the Pentagon, twice met a London-based businessman, Greg Wales, in Washington before the coup attempt. Mr Wales has been accused of being one of its organisers, but has denied any involvement. (3)

    Names

    The South African police recovered a list of the financiers (the "wonga list"). Among the names found on the list are: (4)

  • Jeffrey Archer
    Best-selling cheap thriller author and disgraced former deputy chairman of Britain's Conservative party. Thanks to John Cleary. Named in several British newspapers as allegedly having paid tens of thousands of pounds to Simon Mann.

  • Ely Calil
    A London-based oil tycoon of Lebanese origin, Calil reportedly introduced Simon Mann to Equatorial Guinean opposition leader Severo Moto, asking him to accompany Moto back to Malabo during a planned coup attempt

  • James Kershaw
    The 24-year-old South African computer expert and alleged coup accountant reportedly handed the so-called "Wonga list" - of wealthy individuals who bankrolled the coup plot - to South African authorities.

  • Peter Mandelson, Britain's European Commissioner
    Enormously long biography...

  • Simon Mann
    Alleged mastermind of the coup plot. Educated at one of Britain's top private schools and a former member of the crack SAS military unit, Mann was convicted Friday in Zimbabwe of trying to buy weapons for the alleged coup plot (...) Mann and Nick du Toit, held as a co-conspirator in Equatorial Guinea, were members of a now-defunct mercenary group in Sierra Leone and Angola.

  • Severo Moto
    Accused by the government in Malabo of being the instigator of the alleged coup. Denies involvement. Moto is president of the self-proclaimed Equatorial Guinean government-in-exile based in Spain, the former colonial power. Media reports say he was flown to neighbouring Mali on the eve of the planned coup, in preparation for his unveiling as Equatorial Guinea's new leader.

  • Sir Mark Thatcher
    The son of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher has been found guilty in South Africa and fled the country. He is a friend and Cape Town neighbour of Simon Mann. He is moved in with his mother. (4)



    France Checkmated NATO
    The Oil Dispute in Equatorial Guinea
    France Checkmated NATO
    ARTHUR LEPIC

    The spectacular arrest of Mark Thatcher (British Iron Lady’s son) in South Africa and the confessions of his accomplices in Zimbabwe and Equatorial Guinea clarified completely the fail coup against this country. The operation was not organized by adventurers or mercenaries paid by international financiers, but by NATO. The U.S. had mobilized the British and Spanish services to overthrow President Teodoro Obiang and take control of the country to build the largest gas-liquefying station of the world. By doing this, the U.S. would have taken the French oil company Total out of the market thus favoring Spanish Repsol. But France knew about the operation and made it fail. (...)

    Airline Triple A Aviation was linked to Thatcher’s activities for it seemed that Sir Thatcher used it to transfer some $275 000 of the operation funds. It seemed that the airline signed on January 2004 an agreement on aviation services with Logo Logistics, Simon Mann’s company. The bank records proved that $100,000 were transferred to Logo’s account on March 2,2004; only two days before the fail coup. Although South Africa rejected the Iron Lady’s son extradition to Equatorial Guinea, investigators could question him in South African territory. Sir Thatcher was prepared to leave South Africa, where he has lived since 1996, to avoid a tax investigation. His residency was already on sale for 4.5 million dollars and his family’s airline tickets for the U.S. were booked when he was arrested by the Scorpions. (...)

    NATO at the Service of the Oil Coalition

    But this was not the end of the story. Beyond Mark Thatcher’s personality, who’s been the focus of attention, the true actors began to appear NATO and France waged a strategic battle that reminded people of the Iraqi situation, another country among those not very common anymore which offered solid perspectives regarding energy investment recovery (...) For instance, it’s been known that American oil company Marathon Oil was to invest 1,000 million dollars in a liquified gas terminal project in Equatorial Guinea. However, certain experts, who noticed that this was the largest project on the liquified gas field in the world, estimated that in real life the contract was a 3 000 million dollar deal.

    (...) At the moment in which the plan entered its final stage and mercenaries were ready to act, two Spanish warships suddenly set sail from a NATO base in Rota, with 500 elite soldiers on board. It seemed that only they knew what their destiny was and Spain had not sent any warship to Equatorial Guinea since the independence of this African country in 1968. The direction of the two ships was controlled by the Commander in Chief of the Command of the American forces in Europe and NATO Supreme commander, General James L. Jones.

    (...) On the other hand, French intelligence services had the chance of intervening by informing South African and/or Zimbabwe’s authorities at the right time thus allowing them to capture the mercenaries on their way to Malabo and, at the same time, protect the interests of the French oil company Total. Currently, it is a pleasure for Zapatero’s government to assist the South African justice. Thirty years ago, by following a Frederick Forsyth-styled plan, a few skillful and unscrupulous mercenaries could have guaranteed a nice retirement for themselves. Today, for a few more barrels it is NATO, on behalf of the very same oil coalition that invaded Iraq, the one that launched itself on an adventure pushed by the international financial institutions.

    http://www.voltairenetwork.net/article88.h...


    Timeline


    March 7 Zimbabwe seizes a US-registered cargo plane carrying 64 suspected mercenaries and military equipment. Simon Mann and five others are arrested on the tarmac

    March 8 Fifteen suspected mercenaries are arrested in Equatorial Guinea, including the alleged leader of the advanced party Nick du Toit. Most of the suspects in both groups are South African

    March 10 President Teodoro Obiang thanks South Africa and Angola for warning him of the plot and says it was funded by "enemy powers" and multinational companies operating within Equatorial Guinea

    March 11 Bombs go off in Madrid

    March 16 Zimbabwe charges 70 suspected mercenaries with conspiring to murder President Obiang

    March 31 Simon Mann writes a letter pleading with associates, including Sir Mark Thatcher, to get him out of prison

    (...)
    August 23 Nick du Toit and 13 other suspected mercenaries go on trial in Equatorial Guinea. The 15th member of the group, a German, had died, allegedly under torture

    August 25 South African police arrest Sir Mark Thatcher on suspicion of involvement in the coup plot. He is charged with breaking the country's strict anti-mercenary laws

    August 27 Zimbabwe acquits 66 of the suspected mercenaries of weapons offences charges but finds Mann guilty of attempting to possess dangerous weapons. He faces up to 10 years in jail

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/equatorialguinea...


    Madrid Commission confirms conspiracy of lies used to justify Iraq War

    Spain: Madrid Commission confirms conspiracy of lies used to justify Iraq War
    By Paul Mitchell
    29 December 2004

    Evidence presented to the commission investigating the train bombings on March 11 in Madrid in which 191 people died and 1,700 others were injured confirms that a conspiracy of lies was used to justify the Iraq war and deceive the Spanish people.

    The evidence emerged when current Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero testified at the Spanish Congressional Commission of Inquiry into the Madrid bombings. Zapatero confirmed allegations first published in the Spanish daily El Pais on December 13 that the former Popular Party (PP) government led by José María Aznar ordered the destruction of computer records dealing with the key period between the Madrid train bombings and the general election held three days later that it lost to Zapatero’s Socialist Workers Party (PSOE). El Pais reported that a specialist computer company was paid $12,000 to erase the computer records, including back-up security copies.

    Zapatero confirmed the allegations during questioning at the inquiry, “In the prime minister’s office we did not have a single document or any data on computer because the whole cabinet of the previous government carried out a massive erasure.”

    That means we have nothing about what happened, information that might have been received, meetings or decisions that were taken from March 11 until March 14,”he added.

    Since then, it has emerged that Aznar and his cabinet office in fact erased all records covering their eight years of government. According to the New York Times, a Spanish official said every file had been wiped out on the hundreds of computers at the presidential complex, known as the Moncloa Palace. “Not a single trace of any files was left behind,” the official said. “Zero, nothing.”

    (...)

    http://wsws.org/articles/2004/dec2004/spai...


    Sources:
    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_March_2004...
    2. http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/T/Teodoro...
    3. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1227...
    4. http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&cl...
    5. http://www.guardian.co.uk/equatorialguinea...

    Thanks to Seems, the following links can be added to the story as well:

    Bank with close ties to Bush administration engulfed in scandal
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    NEW details of Thatcher coup plot: London Evening Standard
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    SEC probes Marathon Oil payments in Equitorial Guinea (and HQ burns down)
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Du Toit admits meeting Thatcher
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Terrorist Stocks?
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    'Petroleum lures dogs of war to Africa'
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    BBC News: Thatcher charged
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Margaret Thatcher's Son Released on Coup Plot Charges
    (Update2)
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Exiled leader in Spain denies any link to coup attempt
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Scorpions say have more info on Equatorial Guinea coup
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Financiers conspired to overthrow oil-flush African
    government
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Mark Thatcher: The money trail
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher case twist as list of alleged coup backers vanishes
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher: Spain 'secretly backed coup by sending warships'
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    WaPo: Allbritton Loses Riggs Bank (front page, day 3)
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    E Guinea 'coup plot' verdict due + update/result
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    I feel like a corpse in a river, says Mark Thatcher as he
    faces court...
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher to face coup questions
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Phone links Thatcher to alleged plot
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    There was no coup plot, says Du Toit
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher to ask Britain to help halt extradition
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher charged over coup plot
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher to be tried in absentia
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Britain knew in advance of Equatorial Guinea coup plot:
    report
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Tories Demand Answers on 'Coup Plot'
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Mandelson faces questioning over 'link' to coup plot
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Legal Woes Cut Into Bottom Line at Riggs
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Mugabe flies to Equatorial Guinea (coup plot latest)
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Despots, Deposits & Directors - Riggs Bank
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    SABC asks to broadcast Thatcher court case
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Spain calls on EU to warn Equatorial Guinea - Riggs Bank
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Raids 'break up' £20m theft gang
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thatcher coup plot: Mandelson, CIA & State Department named
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Archer 'link to coup plot'
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Britain accused of failing to investigate Africa coup
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Pentagon link to Guinea coup plot
  • http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    And there is more of course, because what if it was the same team as did 9/11

    You probably don't think it is possible, however who is a member of the board at Marsh:


    Oscar Fanjul
    Director since 2001

    Mr. Fanjul, age 56, is vice chairman and chief executive officer of Omega Capital, a private investment firm in Spain. Mr. Fanjul is honorary chairman of Repsol YPF, where he was chairman and chief executive officer from its inception in 1986 until 1996. He was chairman of Hidroeléctrica del Cantábrico from 1999 to 2001 and chairman of NH Hoteles from 1997 until 1999. Mr. Fanjul is a director of Acerinox, the Lafarge Group, the London Stock Exchange, Unilever, Marsh S.A. and a member of MMC's International Advisory Board. He is a trustee of the International Accounting Standards Committee Foundation and the Amigos del Museo del Prado.

    http://www.mmc.com/about/board.php


    Pure speculation:
    So what if the French were right and it was about the oil of Equatorial Guinea which was supposed to go to Repsol instead of Total. So who is a member of the board since 2001 (why that year?). And Oscar is by far the biggest guy at Marsh and his list of groups and companies also includes Carlyle, Trilateral, Goldman Sachs, etc. etc.

    So could a former CEO and Chairman of the Board of Repsol be involved in the failed coup in Equatorial Guinea as well and could it be there be an overlap between the team who did 9/11 and 11-M?

    Why aren't journalists interested...
    Look at all the stories and they can copy and use them all. Free research. C'mon, you guys!
  • Read entry | Discuss (7 comments)
    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Wed Jul 05th 2006, 03:40 PM
    Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the "Greenberg family" cartel especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes)

    Either way you need to convince people that there were hijacked planes and you need to keep the fast majority occupied and that is where the war games are very useful. Not only does it give the "blimps" on the radar screen, it will allow a small group to engage in 9/11 while the fast majority is playing games which will later add to the confusion of trying to resolve 9/11. 9/11 was also far more extensive than just WTC and the Pentagon. Many things needed to be setup that day, so there would have been flights going back and forth and you nameit.

    The same with Ground Zero. The fast majority of people there engaged in the actual disaster, however the OEM was not being used and was by far the best place to coordinate WTC, because it was a bunker high up in the air, so not only did they have a perfect sight on Ground Zero, they were also in a safe place in case a piece of WTC would fall on WTC 7. That place could withstand anything.

    The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

    We can see that Marsh, Kroll, AIG, Raytheon and maybe Citigroup, Fuji Bank and Deutsche Bank were at the heart of the operations. None of those organization can be directly traced back to any government agencies or official and even in their own organization they are just tiny compared to the remainder of those enormous companies, so the corporation also have plausible deniability.

    One thing which you would also need for top team. Kroll has several of those in their own organization which are used in Iraq as well. They merged with Armor Holding just before 9/11 and that gave them a top UK team and the best KGB team (remember that was the team during the Cold War. Alpha were the experts). Also within Marsh you two very good teams, so those guys could had the ability to wire all the buildings and set up everything so they could coordinate everything from OEM on 9/11 (because that's the best place).

    It makes sense to start with WTC1, because that was their own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. WTC2 and the Pentagon were next. Pentagon will be a lot harder to comprehend, because that's an entirely secret organization.

    Rudy must have known and was in charge of the Pier 92 that way together with people like Jerome Hauer and many many more. Most of the people on the ground would have had no idea.

    I think that that is a plausible scenario.

    There are quite a number of corporation where inside trading has occured. The fast majority were insurance companies and a lot of airliners as well, so within these companies there were some people in the higher echelons who knew about it. We'll probably never know who they are because there hasn't been any investigation and all we have is a list.

    The number of inside traders was enormous and global, so it wasn't just a couple. Especially Deutsche Bank was the biggest and since the US CEO is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it. Many of the others never collected though, so some of the CEOs thought that it was pretty hot. Either way it is one of the few pieces of hard evidence.

    The relationship between the companies is that most either knew AIG or Citigroup very well. A lot of companies were not that clean before either and had many scandals. Some didn't though like American Express so in that case it would probably be somebody at the top who acted upon himself and it would not be a board decision.

    The part of the Election 2000. That'll be an enormous story as well. The preparation clearly started way before the elections and they needed Bush and his cronies in the White House so the election fraud was very important and the links are there via Greenberg-Traurig who helped a lot during 2000 and later during 2004.

    As far as the Bush administration goes, it is clear that many played a part in the cover-up and quite a number would have known from the start. As always most would not have a complete picture of 9/11. Bush didn't. Cheney probably did. Kissinger didn't. Bremer probably did. Most CEO only knew that 9/11 was planned and that's it. As far as government go, it stands to reason that a lot of them knew as well and some participated, some warned, but there were so many warnings before 9/11 that it was not failure of Intelligence. This was an Intelligence success story.

    As far as the al-Qaeda terrorists goes, it were the drug dealers in their own organizations who were Arabs so they could be used. The reason why some many are still alive (or maybe all) is because they were drug dealers, so they just have to get used to it...
    Read entry | Discuss (0 comments)
    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Wed Jul 05th 2006, 01:04 PM
    Continued from: http://tinyurl.com/hd6s9
    Post was too long LOL

  • Citigroup (Did we really sponsor Palestinian terrorists?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • CNA Financial (Doesn't this CEO write extremely conservative columns as well?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Controlled Demolition (How come there were two companies at the scene who also specialize in controlled demolition)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Convar (How to buy a company to stop investigation into inside trading)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Credit Suisse (Managing director had a meeting at the wrong time)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Deutsche Bank (They may sound German, but they are very buddy buddy with the CIA)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Doubles (How many Atta's were there?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Electrical Contractors (There are many thing you can wire)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Enron (Destruction of evidence. Involvement of AIG)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • E-Systems (Virtually indistinguishable from the spy agencies they serve)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Euro Brokers (Risk management victim)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Fiduciary Trust (Thomas Kean and Ann Tatlock but lost 76)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Fireman's Fund (Another CIA front?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • First Commercial Bank (Pretty much unknown. Were at impact area)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Louis Freeh (We don't want a FBI director who wants to investigate)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Fuji Bank (Mena and right in the middle of WTC2)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Genesis Intermedia (How come Adnan was behind Venice?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Global Crossing (Destruction of evidence)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Guatanamo Bay (Heroin dealers and terrorist flight school owners are allowed to fly to Guatanamo Bay)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Harken Energy (How to scam with Alan "Ace" Greenberg's money and he didn't even mind)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union (we don't want unions)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Insurance cartel (Oil cartel, airline cartel and insurance cartel?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Interview with Ty Rauber by Culhavoc
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Investcorp Investment Holdings Corp (The BCCI of Investment firms)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • IQ Financial Systems (Deutsche Bank helping Fuji bank helping 9/11??)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Iran-Contra (Almost the same script)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Bernie and Rudy
  • ITT Hartford (JFK, Allende and 9/11)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • JFK (A history of treason)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • JM/WAVE (The old terror team and what the effects were on South Florida)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Bernard Kerik (Octafish: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • L-3 Communications (What is General Jay M. Garner doing there?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Lehman Brothers (Dollar, Pounds, Euros we own them all)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Neil D. Levin (Executive Director Port Authority)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Lockheed Martin (Fox living in the Hen house)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • LTV Corporation (One of its last actions was pre-9/11 inside trading)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Martin Progressive (A happy survivor)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Wire specialist on 84th?
  • Mass. Electric Construction (A hidden wire specialist on the 84th floor?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Mena (The predecessor of Venice)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • MIHOP (Some physical evidence sites and info)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Morgan Stanley (Made a huge plan what to do if an airplane struck WTC)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Moussaoui (What is Senator David Boren doing there?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Robert Mueller (He did a marvellous job covering up Panama and BCCI. Let him to 9/11 as well)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • No planers (Optional. Are planes really necessary?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Office of Emergency Management (Control center for terrorist attack)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • OKC (Another terror event which doesn't make sense)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Operation 40 (The first team of the shadow government and all the presidents it spawned)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Operation Northwoods (Similar to 9/11. Even though it was decades earlier)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Pentagon (The other building with a mystery plane)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Promis (Are Saddam and Osama enemies?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Raytheon Company (All survived despite being above impact)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali (New Zealand deports a spy)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Remote Controlled Detonation (How to blow up WTC while in OEM)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Rick Resola (Tried to save everybody, but his story is weird)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Romance of the Seas
    Oil spills, 9/11, Abramoff
  • Royal Caribbean Cruises (Corporate Criminals of the 90s: #21 Royal Caribbean and in the 00s: 9/11 as well)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Royal & Sun Alliance (Another AIG buddy)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Sander O'Neill (Risk management victim)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Skyways (9/11 didn't change anything. Lots of drug dealing in Venice)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Standard Charter Bank (Terrorists and WTC7)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Stewart Airport (The weird detour of the planes)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Texas Rangers (Started with the Harken scam and solved when Junior was governor. The Greenbergs helped out of course)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Trilateral Investment (George W. Bush and AIG. Partners in fraud)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • UAE Port deal (Port deal related to drug dealing)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Vornado Realty Trust (The failed WTC - Port Authority deal. Didn't stop them from inside trading)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...


    The Twin Towers before the Bush administration
  • WorldCom (Destruction of evidence by shredding WTC 7)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • W. R. Grace and Company (Asbestos Inc. A mere 250,000 lawsuits thus far)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • WTC 1993 (Prior history)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • WTC 1 and 2 (Corporation index)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • WTC 5 (Raging fires but did not collapse)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • WTC 7 (Small fire, big collapse or was it related to what was inside of WTC7?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • WTC Security (Let's put a Bush in charge of security and see what happens)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Thanks to:
    Ty Rauber, Richard Grove, Sibel Edmonds, Daniel Hopsicker, Wayne Madsen, Michael Ruppert, Al Martin, Miranda Priestly, the-catbird-seat and many more...

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  • Read entry | Discuss (2 comments)
    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Wed Jul 05th 2006, 01:00 PM
    Thread is a continuation from:
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...


    Who Killed John O'Neill


    Who needs a plane?
    An Updated MIHOP


    Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.
    Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.
    • AIG as Money Laundering Inc.
    • Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer
    • Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.
    • al-Cokeda as the drug dealers in the flight schools who are later called terrorists in the OCT.

    • Learn how they all work together.
    • Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.
    • Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.

    • Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know

    Journal:
    http://journals.democraticunderground.com/...


    The video (it is better if you watch the video first)
    Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

    Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

    This is all for the same video, I gave different links in case some didn't work:

    http://www.wkjo.com
    http://whokilledjohnoneill.com

    Movie Downloads:
    http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

    Mirrors:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...
    http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_...


    al-Cokeda
    Iran-Contra II


    How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...


    Mohammed Atta's girlfriend


    Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...


    In dedication of the top anti-terrorism expert of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, John O'Neill
    Summary:

    Ownership:

    American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
    Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
    Ace = Evan Greenberg
    Bear Stearns = Alan Greenberg

    Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.
    Greenberg-Traurig is now an "independent" law firm, but was started by Maurice.

    Possible teams for 9/11:

    October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy
    The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar, bio-terrorism and homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11.

    Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

    That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.
    Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

    They had the means to do this.
  • Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.
  • Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra and 78th floor had Baseline Financial who also did business with Rupert Murdoch.
  • WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA
  • The Pentagon was of course under their own control.
  • Mass Electric Construction Co, a company specializing in wiring, was on the 84th floor of WTC2.

    They had the opportunity to do this.

  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.
  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.
  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.
  • AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.
  • AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan
  • There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.
  • Greenberg and Khasshogi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well
  • The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.
  • Greenberg-Traurig played a major role in both the Election Fraud 2000, Election Fraud 2004 and is the personal law firm for Jeb Bush.
  • The Office of Emergency Management was needed according to Rudolph Giuliani, so it could have been used for other purposes.

    They had motive to do this.

    Objectives:
    There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:
    1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan for oil and drugs.
    2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain.
    3. Enabling Homeland security.
    4. Passing the Patriot Act.
    5. Massive insurance fraud.
    6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon.
    7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan)

    Sub goals:
    1. Elimination of competitors: Better position for Silverstream and Marsh in risk management by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows of the World and eliminating some competitors in WTC.
    2. Downsizing of Cantor/eSpeed.
    3. Solve some "minor" problems for companies either in WTC or by inside trading.
    4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal, price inflation fraud for Silverstream, WorldCom, Global Crossing and many other scandals.

    9/11 and Iran-Contra
    There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

    Objectives of Iran-Contra:
    1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
    2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
    3. A war between Iraq and Iran

    Objectives of 9/11:
    1. Butterfly ballots, Vote spoilage, Greenberg-Traurig: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney
    2. A war with Afghanistan
    3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

    Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)
    4. A war with Iraq
    Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way"
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...
    This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.

    5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also.
    6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

    Why the Pentagon had to be included as well

    By Minstrel Boy



    They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.
    She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
    I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan


    (...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

    And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

    http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-...


    WTC building insurance and ownership
    What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

    AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

    They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

    Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissinger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

    On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

    Larry Silverstein

    Larry "Pull It" Silverstein

    "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

    - World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

    Or watch a video clip of them here:
  • http://pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wm...
  • http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html


  • Victims and Survivors
    There are some strange victims and survivors in WTC. It makes sense that the lower floors survived, but the top floors have some anomalies as well.

    Victims:
  • Alliance Consulting Group (unknown yet)
  • AON Corporation (risk management)
  • Cantor Fitzgerald Securities + eSpeed (literally downsizing)
    [li>
    CARR Futures (risk management)
  • Euro Brokers (risk competitor. the four survivors even got the advice not to go down)

    Windows on the World
  • Hotel and Restaurant Employees International (union)
  • Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (unknown)
  • Sandler O'Neill and Partners (investor in eSpeed)
  • Windows on the World (Risk meeting and only a restaurant)

    Survivors:
  • American Bureau of Shipping (destruction of evidence. Little affair with Spanish government)
  • Banco LatinoAmericano de Exportaciones Sud America (unknown)
  • Bank of America (inside trading)
  • Deutsche Bank (inside trading)
  • Dun & Bradstreet (their buddy in risk)
  • Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (used to be owned by Myron Du Bain ties to Huffman Aviation)
  • Fuji Bank (doesn't make sense, since they were right on the impact area)
  • Lehman Brothers (inside trading)
  • Morgan Stanley (inside trading)
  • Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (84/3000, however 37 were cops so that leaves 47 including the executive director Neil D. Levin)
  • Raytheon Company (only lost four on the "planes")
  • Seabury and Smith (part of Marsh)
  • ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company] (decided to move out one week earlier)

    Discussions:
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Pre-9/11 inside traders

    Did they know about those planes?
  • American Airlines (involved in the planes)
  • American Express Corp (in WTC7)
  • American International Group (involved in Kroll/Marsh/CIA)
  • AMR Corporation (I think I see an indirect link to the DCI here)
  • Axa SA (owner American Airlines. #2 global insurer)
  • Bank of America Corp (in WTC1)
  • Bank of New York Corp
  • Bank One Corp
  • Bear Stearns (Alan Greenberg was former CEO. Always tied up with the Bush family)
  • Boeing (involved in the planes)
  • Cigna Group
  • Citigroup Inc. (owns Salomon Smith Barney; did scam in Brazil with Kroll)
  • CNA Financial
  • Carnival Corp
  • Chubb Group
  • Continental Airlines
  • Dean Witter & Co. (See Morgan Stanley)
  • Deutsche Bank (CIA's favorite bank, since DB bought Alex Brown. Their building got partially destroyed as well. Biggest inside trader of them all)
  • General Motors
  • Genesis Intermedia (Adnan Khashoggi owner Huffman Aviation)
  • John Hancock Financial Services
  • Hercules Inc
  • L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc.
  • Lehman Brothers Holdings, Inc. (In WTC1 and WTC3. Links up with Blackstone group)
  • Lockheed Martin Corp.
  • Lone Star Technologies
  • LTV Corporation
  • Marsh & McLennan Cos. Inc. (In WTC1 as well as WTC2. Prime suspect.)
  • Martin Progressive (in WTC1)
  • MetLife (in WTC1)
  • Morgan Stanley (In WTC2)
  • Northwest Airlines
  • Progressive Corp.
  • Raytheon (In WTC2. Everybody in the building survived despite being above impact)
  • Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd.
  • Royal & Sun Alliance (Another AIG buddy)
  • Southwest Airlines
  • United Airlines (In the planes)
  • US Airways
  • Vornado Reality Trust
  • W.R. Grace
  • XL Capital Ltd. (Part of AIG.)

    Discussions:
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Index of previous discussions

    The Greenberg Family Cartel
  • Kroll (privatized CIA)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
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    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • - CIA privatization (Independent, lawless, unrestricted. And they didn't even tell us)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Marsh (scene of the crime)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • - Marsh Crisis Consultancy (terror group lead by Paul Bremer)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • - Marsh Victims
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • American International Group (Mother of all fraud)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Risk management (How to become market leader by eliminating competition)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
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    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • - Silverstream Fraud Class Action June 20, 2001
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Greenberg cartel (A family that preys together, stays together)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...


    Hilliard's heroin plane
  • Al-Cokeda (Drugs for black ops)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • - Venice (The new Mena?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Ace Limited (Another family member in insurance and 9/11)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Alpha Firm (KGB enemies? Hell no, their former top team can joined us)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Armor Holding (Two more teams for 9/11)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Bear Stearns (Bush's best buddy: Harken Energy, Texas Rangers, Trilateral Investment and Clear Channel)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Defence Systems Limited (The UK top team was there as well)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • Greenberg-Traurig (Election 2000 Fraud and Election 2004 Fraud)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
  • XL Insurance (WilProp for Larry)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Reinsurance/ownership of the World Trade Center:
  • Blackstone Group (Let the competitor of AIG pay for the damage)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Larry Silverstein / Port Authority (Make billions by blowing up WTC)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Chubb / Allianz / AXA / Swiss Re (AIG's competition)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Ace / XL (owned by AIG) + WilProp (It's almost like they knew in advance)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Key people
  • Mohammed Atta (Terrorist or drug dealer?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • David Boren (George Tenet, AMR Corporation, Moussaoui and Nick Berg )
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Paul Bremer (Links to Marsh, Bush administration and HenryKissinger. Spider in the web)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...


  • Bush family (Partners of Greenberg family. They can't possibly be involved, right?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Michael Cherkasky (Small cop at DA, WTC93, BCCI, Kroll and now CEO Marsh)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Rudy Giulani (The mayor who knew everything in advance. Even London)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Greenberg family (Maurice, Jeffrey, Evan and of course The Ace)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Jerome Hauer (The man who appointed John O'Neill)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Willy Hilliard (CIA and drugs?)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Adnan Khashoggi (Oliver North II)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Henry K. (King Henry, the butcher of Cambodia)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • John O'Neill (We don't want an investigation into 9/11)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Thomas Pickard (The temporary director when everything was being planned)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Sanford Weill (Sandy seems to know everybody as well)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Marsh & Kroll management (Thomas E. Constance, Oscar Fanjul, Michael A. Petrullo, Michael Shmerling and J. Arthur Urciuoli)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Whistleblowers
    Sibel Edmonds
  • Sibel Edmonds (Overheard Turkish intelligence talking about 9/11)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Richard Grove (Silverstream)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

  • Indira Sangh (Windows on the World meeting)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

    Twin Tower Corporation Index

    This is an overview of the companies with links to the different pages. Companies with were considered of little or no relevance are not listed. And the lower floors of both buildings were considered less relevant. The same applied to very small companies. A listing here does in no way imply that the company was involved in 9/11.

    The index has been created from various sources and there does not seem to be an official and concise overview of the Twin Towers.

    Bold = Inside trader
    Italic = Victim
    ?? = Interesting, but too little is known.

    Main companies in WTC1

    Floor # - Company (tot/vict) - Comment
    107 - World Trade Club = Windows on the World (75/66) - Owned several bars/restaurants
    107 - Hotel and Restaurant Employees International (277/77)
    106 - Windows on the World (75/66)
    106 - Hotel and Restaurant Employees International (277/77)
    105 - Genuity = L-3 Communications (10/1)
    105 - Cantor Fitzgerald / ESpeed (1000/685+125)
    104 - Cantor Fitzgerald / ESpeed (1000/685+125)
    103 - Cantor Fitzgerald / ESpeed (1000/685+125)
    102 - Cantor Fitzgerald / ESpeed (1000/685+125)
    102 - Alliance Consulting Group (22/7) ??
    101 - Cantor Fitzgerald / ESpeed (1000/685+125)
    100 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     99 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     98 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     97 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     96 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     95 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     94 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     93 - Marsh USA (1900/295)
     93 - Fred Alger Management (36/36) - Used eSpeed
     92 - CARR Futures (141/69)
     91 - American Bureau of Shipping (22/0)
     90 - Dun & Bradstreet (80/0) - Silverstream
     89 - Metropolitan Life Insurance Company (52/2) - Inside trader
     89 - Banco LatinoAmericano de Exportaciones Sud America (20/0) ??
     86 - Trading Technologies (7/0) - Deutsche Bank
     83 - Global Crossing Holdings - Destruction of evidence
     81 - Bank of America (400/2)
     79 - Virtual suite 7967 with for example Buttonwood
     78 - Korea Local Government Center (8/0) - Must have told South-Korea. Just imagine the scandal if they didn't
     77 - Martin Progressive (80/0)
     65 - Boeing
     62 - CARR Futures (see above. This lower floor survived)
     59 - Sidley Austin Brown & Wood (600/1)
     58 - Sidley Austin Brown & Wood (600/1)
     57 - Sidley Austin Brown & Wood (600/1)
     56 - Sidley Austin Brown & Wood (600/1)
     54 - Sidley Austin Brown & Wood (600/1)
     53 - AIG Aviation Brokerage part of AIG
     53 - French Embassy Financial Services - See South-Korea
     50 - Dai-Ichi Kangyo Bank (unk/0) ??
     49 - Dai-Ichi Kangyo Bank (unk/0) ??
     48 - Dai-Ichi Kangyo Bank (unk/0) ??
     40 - Lehman Brothers (618/1)
     39 - Lehman Brothers (618/1)
     38 - Lehman Brothers (618/1)
     37 - Government of Thailand (>9/0) - See South-Korea
     36 - Kemper Insurance Companies part of Marsh
     35 - Kemper Insurance Companies part of Marsh
     34 - Royal Thai Embassy Office - See South-Korea
     34 - Port Authority 3000/74)
     33 - China Daily Distribution Corporation - Nothing is known about the company ??
     32 - Cantor Fitzgerald - See above
     31 - Port Authority - See above
     31 - Empire Blue (1914/5) - Sad story of Abe Zelmanowitz who stayed behind with his friend in the wheel chair.
     29 - ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company - Moved out Sept 4. Left some equipment though
     28 - Port Authority
     28 - Empire Blue
     27 - Empire Blue
     26 - Garban Intercapital (675/1) - ??
     25 - Garban Intercapital (675/1)
     24 - Port Authority - See above
     24 - Empire Health Choice = Empire Blue
     23 - Empire Health Choice
     22 - Virtual suite 2201
     20 - Empire Health Choice
     19 - Empire Health Choice
     19 - Port Authority
     17 - Empire Health Choice
     17 - ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company
     16 - ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company
     14 - Dun & Bradstreet
     14 - Port Authority
     11 - Bank of America
     10 - Bank of America
      9 - Bank of America
      3 - Port Authority


    Main companies in WTC2

    Floor # - Company (tot/vict) - Comment
    104 - Sandler O'Neill and Partners (180/63) - Owned several bars/restaurants
    101 - AON Corporation (1350/170)
    100 - AON Corporation (1350/170)
     99 - AON Corporation (1350/170)
     97 - Fiduciary Trust Company International (645/76)
     96 - Fiduciary Trust Company International (645/76)
     95 - Fiduciary Trust Company International (645/76)
     94 - Fiduciary Trust Company International (645/76)
     93 - AON Corporation (1350/170)
     91 - Raytheon Company (unk/4 on planes)
     90 - Washington Group International Inc (190/13) - ??
     89 - Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (171/63) - ??
     88 - Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (171/63) - ??
     87 - NY Department of Taxation and Finance (224/39) - ??
     87 - Corporation Service Company (100/0) - ??
     86 - NY Department of Taxation and Finance (224/39) - ??
     86 - Marsh USA (1900/295 in WTC1)
     85 - Marsh USA (1900/295 in WTC1)
     85 - Harris Beach (113/5) - Represented Gov. Carey
     85 - Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (171/63) - ??
     84 - Euro Brokers (285/61 survivors on lower floor)
     84 - Mass Electric Construction Co - Mystery wire expert
     83 - IQ Financial Systems (110/3)
     82 - Fuji Bank (625/9)
     81 - Fuji Bank (625/9)
     80 - Fuji Bank (625/9)
     79 - Fuji Bank (625/9)
     78 - First Commercial Bank (27/1) - Note: small office of a small bank. Most likely unrelated
     78 - Baseline Financial (175/3)
     77 - Baseline Financial (175/3)
     74 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     73 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     72 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     71 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     70 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     69 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     68 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     67 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     66 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     65 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     64 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     63 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     62 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     61 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     60 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     59 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     58 - Dow Jones (900/0)
     57 - Dow Jones (900/0)
     56 - Morgan Stanley (3700/6)
     55 - Garban Intercapital (675/1) ??
     54 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     53 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     52 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     51 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     50 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     49 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     49 - Seabury and Smith = Marsh
     48 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     48 - Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (190/0)
     47 - Guy Carpenter (700/1) = Marsh
     46 - Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (190/0)
     45 - Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (190/0)
     44 - Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (190/0)
     43 - Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (190/0)
     40 - Thacher, Proffitt and Wood (300/0) - ??
     39 - Thacher, Proffitt and Wood (300/0)
     38 - Thacher, Proffitt and Wood (300/0)
     36 - Frenkel and Company (180/0) - ??
     35 - Frenkel and Company (180/0)
     34 - Oppenheimer Funds (600/0) = Massachusetts Mutual and not Oppenheimer & Company
     33 - Oppenheimer Funds (600/0)
     32 - Oppenheimer Funds (600/0)
     31 - Oppenheimer Funds (600/0)
     30 - Hartford Steam Boiler = ITT
     29 - Weatherly Securities Corp (60/0) - ??
     23 - SCOR U.S. Corporation (120/0) - ??
     22 - Mancini Duffy (150/0) - ??
     20 - Thacher, Proffitt and Wood (300/0)
     20 - NY Shipping Association (140/0)
     19 - NY Shipping Association (140/0)
     18 - 4 U Services Inc (25/0)
     17 - N.Y. Institution of Finance (65/0)
     16 - National Development and Research Institute (130/0)
     15 - Mancini Duffy (150/0)
     12 - Verizon Communications (400/2) - See: Thomas Kean
     12 - Euro Brokers (285/61 survivors on lower floor)
     11 - Verizon Communications (400/2)
     10 - Verizon Communications (400/2)
      9 - Verizon Communications (400/2)


    Other subjects
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    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
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    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
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  • Cantor/eSpeed (Major reorganization during 9/11)
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Wed Jul 05th 2006, 11:23 AM
    Fiduciary Trust Company International is a member of Franklin Templeton Investments and a global asset management firm established in 1931 to serve private clients and institutions. One of the world’s oldest global investment firms, Fiduciary Trust Company International manages assets for institutions, individuals, and families through offices in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Washington, Wilmington, London, Geneva, Hong Kong, Melbourne, Tokyo, and Grand Cayman. Along with global investment expertise, Fiduciary Trust provides client-tailored portfolio management and independent in-house research and analysis. (1) Fiduciary Trust also does Risk management.

    Fiduciary Trust had offices at the top of WTC2 and lost 76 of their 645 employees.

    Thomas Kean
    Thomas Kean, the Chairman of the 9-11 Commission was at the time of his appointment director of Amerada Hess Corporation and Aramark Corporation, and had previously served as director of UnitedHealth Group, Bell Atlantic Corp (now Verizon) and CIT Group, as well as being a former chairman and board member of Fiduciary Trust Company International and Pepsi Bottling Group. (2)

    CEO of Fiduciary and Warren Buffet
    So where was Warren Buffett (4) the morning of 9/11 and what was he doing?

    Mr. Buffett was reportedly at his home in Omaha, Nebraska watching TV when he heard about the terrorist attacks. He was getting ready to host his "last annual golf charity event" which just happened to be at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters located at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha. Offutt AFB is, coincidentally, where President G. W. Bush flew to on Air Force One later in the day for "safety". This early golf charity event hosted by Mr. Buffett was to include celebrities, professional athletes, and a small group of business leaders in which one of these business leaders became a very lucky person.

    This very lucky person was Ann Tatlock, the CEO of Fiduciary Trust Co. International. Now what made Mrs. Tatlock such a lucky person for being invited to this charity event that morning? Mrs. Tatlock not only works in the World Trade Center, but her offices were right where Flight 175 alledgely crashed into the WTC 2. (3)

    Sources:
    1. http://members.microsoft.com/customerevide...
    2. http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/moon/th...
    3. http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/buffet...
    4. Where did I see the name Warren Buffett before. Was that American Express?
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Mon Jul 03rd 2006, 01:16 PM

    Rudy and Rummie in what used to be WTC
    Rudolph William Louis Giuliani III KBE (2) or Rudy G. (born May 28, 1944 in Brooklyn, New York) served as the Mayor of New York City from January 1, 1994 through December 31, 2001. He is currently Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Giuliani Partners LLC, which he founded in January 2002, and a name partner in the Houston-based law firm Bracewell & Giuliani LLP. (1)

    Biography
    In 1993 Rudy was elected mayor and by April 1999, Giuliani's approval rating had dropped to 40 percent. A year later, his failing marriage had become a daily tabloid soap opera. (11)

    He tried to increase his popularity based on the September 11 myth and used it to extend his term as Mayor for another three months and if they didn't like that, he'd run for another term. George W. Bush wanted Rudy to run the Department of Homeland Security, however Rudy appointed Bernard Kerik. (3)

    Rudy also featured in the London's 7/7 where he said the London terror strikes were an "eerie reminder" of 9/11 (10). A lot of people thought that his presence in London was also an "eerie reminder."

    Giuliani has been plagued by scandals such as his partner Bernard Kerik being convicted of improper actions while in office and being alledgely linked to organized crime. (1)

    Diebold Election Systems used Greenberg-Traurig to hire Robert Harding (5), former deputy mayor for Rudy Giuliani, to promote their electronic voting systems (4) during the 2004 Elections.

    And there are many persistent rumors that Rudy wants to run for President in 2008 as well. (1)

    May 11, 2001

    New York City’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM), which is located in World Trade Center Building 7, organizes a bio-terrorism drill where militant extremists attack the city with bubonic plague and Manhattan is quarantined. Various high-level officials take part, including Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, OEM Director Richard Sheirer, Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen, and Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik. Agencies and organizations that participate include New York City Fire Department, New York City Police Department, the FBI, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). (7, 8)

    9/11
    Rudy uses Pier 92 as the Command Center instead of the OEM since it was already set up by FEMA and others. (12)

    9:37 - 9:58 am
    Rudy Giuliani is told by his chief of staff that the White House knew of seven planes that are unaccounted for. (9, 8)

    Rudolph Giuliani told ABC News's Peter Jennings about the temporary headquarters that he and staff had set up at 75 Barkley Street: "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center building was gonna collapse." (6) He had heard about it between 9:25 a.m. and 9:45 a.m. (8)

    On 9:58 a.m. about one minute before the WTC 2 falls, he is able to reach the White House by phone learns the Pentagon has been hit and he asks about fighter cover over New York City. Henick replies, “The jets were dispatched 12 minutes ago and they should be there very shortly, and they should be able to defend you against further attack.” (9,8)

    On 11:02 Rudy Guiliani urges citizens to stay calm and in their homes, except for those living south of Canal St., who are politely urged to run like hell. (15)

    National Law Enforcement and Security Institute
    National Law Enforcement and Security Institute held a conference called "Homeland Security: America's Leadership Challenge" in Chicago on 6 Sept 2002. The star speaker is Rudolph Giuliani. One of the other speakers is CIA man John Fulton. Here is the crucial sentence from the promotional literature for the conference:

    On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

    http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simul...
    (AP later removed that story of course)

    Yet both Rudy Giulani and Jerome Hauer denied during 9/11 Omission Report that they were preparing for a scenario like September 11. (14) Giuliani's responsibility for giving the FDNY inoperable Motorola radios was overlooked as well. (16) The relatives of World Trade Center victims were outraged during the 9/11 Omission hearings of Rudy Guliani (13)

    See also:
    Giuliani Time
  • http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-g...
    Stop Guiliani
  • http://www.actupny.org/reports/stoprudy.ht...

    Cooperative research material is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-... / )
    Sources:
    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Guiliani
    2. Even though it originally violates the Constitution, the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966 was passed, so Rudy has to use KBE instead of Sir and the "Swearing upon of His Imperial Majesty" is now deemed irrelevant.
    3. "Bernie, thank God George Bush is our president"
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/... /
    4. http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2004Q2/co...
    5. http://lists.hss.caltech.edu/pipermail/vot...
    6. http://wtc7.net/books/greatcrimes/part5.ht...
    7. http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2001a/pr14...
    8. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/searchR...
    9. 9/11 Commission, 5/19/2004
    10. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...
    11. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/9_11/articles...
    12. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0406/S000...
    13. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4696092
    14. http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/19/911.commi...
    15. http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/terror... /
    16. http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.ph...

    There was a strange inconsistency about Rudy finding out that the WTC where being hit, but I can't find it.
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Mon Jul 03rd 2006, 10:36 AM
    Mass. Electric Construction Co. (MEC), a subsidiary of Kiewit Corporation, is one of the nation’s largest electrical contractors. Founded in 1928, MEC is a leader in the construction of large- scale, complex electrical systems throughout North and South America. (1). The headquarters of MEC are in Boston. Kiewit is based in Omaha.

    They specialize in wiring and also do internet projects like the fiber optics internet backbone in the Fidelity World Trade Center in Boston, an fiber optics network for Raytheon and Global Crossing. (2) (3)

    Peter Schneidkraut was CEO of Kiewit Corporation until December 2001 and then started his own company and performed various tasks like the Restauration Project of the New Jersey to the World Trade Center Station in Manhattan, New York. (4)



    Mass. Electric Construction Co. had an office on the 84th floor of WTC2 (5), however nothing is known about this company and 9/11, however they are participants in the Arizona’s September 11th Memorial. (6)

    Sources:
    1. http://www.kiewit.com/masselectric /
    2. http://www.masselec.com/special_systems_hi...
    3. http://www.rwsons.com/news5.htm
    4. http://www.dot.state.fl.us/construction/CO...
    5. http://www.unblinking.com/arc/2001-09b.htm
    6. http://www.az911memorial.com/FAQ.htm
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Mon Jul 03rd 2006, 09:26 AM
    The New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM) was originally formed in 1996 as part of the Mayor's Office under Rudy Giuliani. By a vote of city residents in 2001 it became an independent agency, headed by a Commissioner who reports to the Mayor. (1)

    Richard Sheirer was appointed as Giuliani’s commissioner of the city’s Office of Emergency Management. In 1999 Jerome Hauer became Head of the Office of Emergency Management.

    Jerome Hauer and was the chief architect of the bunker in WTC 7. Richard Sheirer forcefully opposed the construction of the "the bunker" on an upper floor of 7 World Trade Center. (3) Nevertheless in June 1999, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani built a $13 million emergency crisis centre on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center, a building just north of the towers that itself collapsed late Tuesday afternoon. (4)

    Giuliani intended the centre to serve as a command central during city emergencies including blackouts, storms and terrorist attacks. Guiliani spent part of the New Year's Eve 2000 celebration in the emergency centre. (4)

    The 9/11 Command Center
    Even though the "bunker" was supposed to be the headquarters during an emergency, it wasn't needed during 9/11.

    As Giuliani said during the testimony to the 9-11 Commission ( WNYC radio has a copy at: http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/28147 because the 9/11 Omission report forgot to include this testimony )

    The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed. (5)


    Funny because they put in a lot of efforts to deny the story that the FEMA was already present on 9/11 and even wrote stories for worldnetdaily to put an end to the rumors. Luckily hardly anybody noticed that Giulani's testimony was removed from the official report. We should note that the actual wording of the debunking accounts does not deny that FEMA was in New York on September 10, it merely denies that the Urban Search and Rescue Task Force was not in New York on September 10. (5) and the FEMA is slightly larger than one Task Force.

    Back to the morning of 9/11. Sheirer got to City Hall at 8 a.m. for a meeting about the Jackie Robinson-Pee Wee Reese memorial planned for Coney Island. "I was in heaven, sitting between Ralph Branca and Joe Black," he remembers. "We were about to select the statue, and then we heard the pop." At first he thought a transformer had exploded in an underground substation. Then he got a flash report from Watch Command in OEM headquarters. (6)

    Down at the scene, he joined Fire Commissioner Tom Von Essen and his chiefs Pete Ganci and Bill Feehan -- old friends from Sheirer's 26 years with the New York Fire Department. They were establishing a command post at the base of the burning tower. (6)

    The Red Cross and the OEM under Jerome Hauer worked very closely together. (3) Even though Jerome Hauer wasn't directly in charge of OEM anymore.

    On the morning of 9/11/01 Rudolph Giuliani told ABC News's Peter Jennings about the temporary headquarters that he and staff had set up at 75 Barkley Street: "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center building was gonna collapse." How this Mayor would know about an impending collapse that even firefighters inside the Twin Towers did not anticipate is yet another question unaddressed by the National Ommission on Terrorist Attacks. (7)

    Sources:
    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYC_Office_of...
    2. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    3. http://www.politicsny.com/reports/february...
    4. http://www.wtc7.net/articles/elitewatch_7w...
    5. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0406/S000...
    6. http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/s... /
    7. http://wtc7.net/books/greatcrimes/part5.ht...
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Sun Jul 02nd 2006, 10:17 AM
    Early in 1970, Salvador Allende Gossens was chosen as the Popular Unity's presidential candidate. The Clarin disclosed on July 14th that CIA agents had expressly been sent to Chile because of the impending elections. On September 4, 1970 Allende won the elections. (1)

    The foreign press noted the immediate impact of giving the Western world its first democratically chosen Marxist president: "This election must have been a shock to foreign investors in Chile, mainly for the mining companies owned by the Americans... Allende is ready to install a revolutionary government to end the dominion of native and foreign capital." (1)

    The failed election gambit was known as "track one". On Sept. 13, 1970, Richard Nixon authorized "track two" intervention - which permitted milder involvement - in Chile, paving the way for the CIA to intervene in the economic and political affairs of Chile in whatever way they deemed necessary. (7)

    By November 4, 1971 the state had come to control 90% of what had previously been private banking. More than 70 strategic or monopolistic enterprises had been expropriated, nationalized, or subjected to state intervention. Under the agrarian reform, 2.4 million hectares had been taken over in order to settle landless farmers and make the land more productive. The indigenous people of Chile had benefited. The government financed a plan providing free milk to children. The industrial workers had increased output by 14 percent in the course of that first year. In September of 1970, the Chilean unemployment rate had stood by 8.4 percent; by September of 1971, it had dropped to 4.8 percent. (2)


    René Schneider
    Kissinger tried to prevent Allende for being inaugurated by ordering the assassination of General René Schneider, who was the Commander in Chief of the Chilean Army. The most significant obstacle to eliminating Allende was General Schneider, for the obvious reason that he controlled the military forces to a more significant degree than the smaller and more reactionary branch of right-wing military plotters. Therefore, General Schneider had to be removed. (3)

    Kissinger went to great lengths to distance himself from the assassination. October 16, 1970, according to CIA Operating Guidance Cable on Coup Plotting, a secret cable, Thomas Karamessines, conveys Kissinger's orders to CIA station chief in Santiago, Henry Hecksher: "It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup." The "operating guidance" makes it clear that these operations are to be conducted so as to hide the "American hand," and that the CIA is to ignore any orders to the contrary from Ambassador Korry who has not been informed of Track II operations. (4)

    Former CIA director John McCone acting for International Telephone & Telegraph (ITT) offered Henry Kissinger and CIA director Richard Helms $1 million to overthrow Salvador Allende — which the CIA allegedly refused — but paid $350,000 to his political opponents with CIA assistance. This included implementing ITT dirty tricks campaign in Chile. (8)

    Because of International Telephone & Telegraph (ITT)'s economic position in Chile, the CIA used the company to filter money to Allende opposition campaigns, including large sums of money for the right-wing opposition newspaper, El Mercurio. (8)

    Sections of the Chilean navy seized the port city of Valparaíso at around six in the morning on September 11, 1973. Hearing of the troop movements, Salvador Allende called his Orlando Letelier, and asked him to investigate. After the minister confirmed the reports, Allende went to La Moneda, the Presidential palace, while Letelier proceded to the Ministry of Defense and became the first member of Allende's cabinet to be placed under arrest. (5)

    The military coup was supported by the CIA and led by General Augusto Pinochet. With the military in revolt, Allende retreated with his supporters to the presidential palace in Santiago, which was surrounded by tanks and infantry and bombed by air force jets. Allende survived the aerial attack but then allegedly shot himself (9) to death as troops stormed the burning palace. General Augusto Pinochet ruled Chile with an iron fist for the next 17 years. (6)

    Sources:
    1. Peter Kornbluh, The Chile Coup - The U.S. Hand, October 25, 1998 ( http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/chi... )
    2. http://www.geocities.com/educhile_1970s/Al...
    3. http://www.geocities.com/educhile_1970s/UP...
    4. http://www.geocities.com/educhile_1970s/Se...
    5. Peter Kornbluh, Chile: Declassified ( http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/chi... )
    6. http://www.historychannel.com/speeches/arc...
    7. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmc...
    8. http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass....
    9. One of those things which doesn't make sense.

    Video at:
  • http://www.indybay.org/uploads/kissinger_f...

    El pueblo debe defenderse, pero no sacrificarse. El pueblo no debe dejarse arrasar ni acribillar, pero tampoco puede humillarse.

    The people ought to defend themselves, but not sacrifice themselves. The people ought not let themselves be subdued or persecuted, but neither should they humble themselves.

    - Salvador Allende, Santiago de Chile, 11 September 1973, 9:10 A.M.
    http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Salvador_All... (English_translation)
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    Posted by DrDebug in September 11
    Sun Jul 02nd 2006, 09:42 AM

    The amazing fire which caused WTC 7 to be pulled.
    The Secrecy-Shrouded Building Holding Giuliani's Command Center

    Building 7 was the dark flat-topped 47-story skyscraper immediately north of the World Trade Center super-block, across Vesey Street. Its designation as 7 World Trade Center is somewhat misleading: whereas WTC 1 through 6 surrounded the WTC plaza and were completed in the 1970s, Building 7 was 300 feet from the plaza and its construction did not begun until 1985. (1) It was of an entirely different architectural style than the other six buildings. It was completely destroyed late in the afternoon on September 11th. (2)

    Emergency Command Center

    The 23rd floor of Building 7 had received 15 million dollars' worth of renovations to create an emergency command center for then-Mayor Rudolf Giuliani. The features of the command center include:

  • Bullet- and bomb-resistant windows
  • An independent, secure air and water supply
  • The ability to withstand winds of 200 mph

    These renovations were applied only to the 23rd floor. (3, 4) The command-center bunker was the the subject of much ridicule when it was created. (5)

    Documents and Command Center Destroyed

    At the time of its destruction, Building 7 housed documents relating to numerous SEC investigations. The files for approximately three to four thousand cases were destroyed, according to the Los Angeles Times. Among the destroyed documents were ones that may have demonstrated the relationship between Citigroup and the WorldCom bankruptcy. (6)

    Compiled from:
  • http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background...
  • http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/w...

    Interesting tenants:
    The building has many interesting tenants like Secret Service and the CIA, however those tenants are black box. Other candidates: (8)

  • Salomon Smith Barney: part of Citigroup, inside trader and they also stored the evidence with regards to WorldCom.
  • Standard Chartered Bank: Moussaoui incident. (7)
  • Office of Emergency Management: See above
  • American Express Bank International: Inside trader.
  • ITT Hartford Insurance Group: Name sounds familiar... Kissinger... Chile... John McCone... $1 million... I'll think I'll add a reply to Henry K. as a reminder...

    Well even though we do not focus that much on physical evidence in these threads.


    "Amazing, incredible pick your word. For the third time today, it’s reminiscent of those pictures we’ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down." (9)


    Sources:
    1. http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=114932
    2. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc...
    3. http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/1...
    4. http://www.gothamgazette.com/iotw/terroris... /
    5. Divided We Stand, Basic Books, 1990, page 151
    6. http://www.nylawyer.com/news/01/09/091701e...
    7. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
    8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_World_T...
    9. Dan Rather, CBS News, September 11, 2001 +/- 5:30pm EST
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    There are four people which I want to give special thanks to:
    1. Ty Rauber, the creator of Who Killed John O'Neill.
    2. Daniel Hopsicker for his excellent reporting in Venice.
    3. Richard Grove for confirming the story.
    4. Wayne Madsen for the vital extra clues.
    5. Sibel Edmonds.
    6. Al Martin for his deep investigation in the Bush family.
    7. Michael Ruppert for all the inside trader information.
    8. Miranda Priestly, my awesome assistent in this investigation
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