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Posted by Gman in General Discussion: Presidential
Sat Apr 19th 2008, 12:19 PM
The Democrats have found a way to insure defeat in November
Nothing Obama or Hillary does or says now will change anyone's minds about support. I've had about all the faux outrage from Obama people I can stand. Is there nothing that Hillary does or says that Obama people won't scream and faint over? Take for example Hillary's mortal sin of criticizing MoveOn. Oh, they say she will really lose a lot of votes over this because MoveOn is this omnipotent power that controls everything and all 3.2 million members now hate Hillary.

Gimme a break. For anyone at this point to actually make the claim that when Hillary does or says anything that gives Obama folks the vapors she will lose all this support is either 1) completely naive or 2) totally disingenuous. Anyone supporting Hillary right now is a rock hard Hillary supporter. Anyone supporting Obama right now is a rock hard Obama supporter except in the states that have not had primaries yet. And even in those states collectively, the breakdown is gravitating towards the national 50-50 lines. The fact is that this is a complete Democratic Party civil war. The party is now ripped right down the middle. Nothing can change that now, neither side will give an inch.

That being said, the superdelegates should do what they were originally intended to do. That is, they all need to now endorse Hillary and the adults need to take over the party and salvage what we can for November. It will be hard enough now for either candidate to win in November but Hillary is still the best choice for the voting public. Frankly, right now I think it's pretty likely McCain will be the next president regardless of who the Democratic nominee is. However, I think the American people will also likely give the Democrats another 20+ seats in the House and another 5+ seats in the Senate just to balance things out with McCain.

There are so many people that are supporting Obama that are completely clueless as to just what the American people want. Of course, Americans want out of Iraq. Americans want health care. Americans want gasoline to be affordable. But Americans that vote also want a lower capital gains tax. Americans want business investment because Americans want jobs (something foreign to Obama supporters that still live with Mom and Dad). Americans don't want the corporate run government we have now, but they do want a pro-business agenda because they want to work. Americans want a plan for bringing jobs back to the US. In fact, Americans want a pro-business agenda, that encourages investment and creates jobs here. Americans want concrete answers and not some "hope" rhetoric that has now worn out and carries no value. Too many Obama people haven't a clue what Americans really want.

The vast majority of these Americans don't read the blogs every day, they don't read the obscure "news" sources that report faux outrages by Hillary. Only that small percentage of Americans that even care to look, read these things and become caught up in this swirling mass of sentiment that becomes more bitter by the moment, caught up in the centrifugal force of the like minded.

I am reminded of being here at DU in November 2002. We were online, we were doing things and we were saying the right things. We were so absolutely confident that by November of 2002 people would be so absolutely outraged with the Bush "administration" that we would win back Congress and we could start to turn things around. There was no doubt in our minds whatsoever. Then the returns started coming in, we were shocked at what was unfolding before our eyes. We just could not understand how we could have lost. After all, we were here, we were doing and saying what we needed to be. But we were losing. How could that be? It just couldn't be.

The fact is that we were all caught up in our own world here at DU. We were in this microcosm that was disconnected from the real world. We had posted all this stuff why Democrats needed to be elected and no one read it! How could that be?

It's no different now. People are now caught up in the microcosm of this online world and they read their own posts and nod with agreement or flame away on behalf of their candidate.

Democrats are now doing what they do best. That is snatching defeat from the formidable jaws of victory. Good job, all.
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