And I am not trying to get into a patriotic pissing match, what I am saying is that there are a good number of humane soldiers over there doing what they have to do until this war is over, and for you to say that they are all acting in the same vein as the monsters of Abu Grhaib is insulting to those decent human beings in our military that are stuck in the shitstorm that this administration has created. The same human beings that voted for John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, and the rest of the Democrats. The same human beings that signed up for service never imagining that they would be called to duty in an unlawful war.

Playing the patriot card, if that is what I am doing, is what we should all be doing. Like I said in my last post, you don't have to support the war, this administration, or the military way in general, but there is a difference between that and ridiculous claims that all of our soldiers are republican thugs.

And for the record, I didn't say the war was about "security". What I said was your type of hyperbolic comments about our military being full of inhumane monsters is what loses the "security" vote for our party. Can you not see that there is a difference between supporting a war and wanting to give our troops non-lethal ways of deterring possible threats?

So yeah, rah rah for the troops, and boo hiss hiss for the jerkoffs that made them get involved.