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Posted by Inland in Religion/Theology
Thu May 18th 2006, 06:25 AM
By placing a label of "fairy tale" on it, and then, of course, calling you a whiney cry baby for rising to the flame bait. That way, you are dismissed, and then dissed and dismissed, all in one post.

Problem is, religious belief is bigger, more complicated, more relevant, than a fairy tale. THat's an objective, observable fact, even as a deity is not. One doesn't build huge ethical systems around something small and childish. Reinhold Niebuhr isn't small and childish. Gandhi wasn't small and childish. Martin Luther King wasn't small and childish. Religion is bigger, for better or worse, than can be dismissed with a snarky post.

I know it's easier to simply dismiss someone one doesn't agree with by labelling, and fun when it's an insult, but it's pretty ironic that the same people who pretend that rationality and hardheaded empircism and gracious unity with all humanity is their touchstone pretend they can't discern any evidence distinguishing between a belief in santa and roman catholicism, all for the purpose of a snotty little slam.

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Posted by Inland in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed May 17th 2006, 07:52 AM
Fitz, the Hague, the UN, "opinion", courts, filibusters, whatever. People downplay the effect of the results of elections to vote, for example, for nader or to rail against a "dino", and then, after the election, wait for somebody to rein in the power of the fuckups who have constitutional power. It's sad, and pathetic, and just where the republicans want us.
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Wed May 17th 2006, 07:19 AM
of the immigration puzzle that I put it low.

To me, the tough part is coming up with the decision on what immigration to allow, the formulas, etc. The discussion of values, the effects of immigration, who pays, etc.

The ENFORCEMENT of that decision at the border---the part that's a fence or monitoring employers---is relatively easy. Enforcement shouldn't be controversial, but we have a president who decided to simply not enforce it and then present us with a fait accompli of ten or twelve million illegal immigrants, and has a vested interest in telling us that nothing can be done.

That's my thought. "The border" isn't the immigration "problem". Bush is. Don't mean to repeat themes again and again, but it's true.
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Posted by Inland in Religion/Theology
Tue May 16th 2006, 08:53 PM
The OP doesn't see the difference between a) Having an opinion and b) Having two opinions, the second opinion being that only a dummy wouldn't agree with the first opinion.

If I were to make a definition of flamebait, I would pick an OP that jumps out of nowhere with both guns blazing in support of the second opinion in scenario (b). Just saying.
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Tue May 16th 2006, 04:34 PM
on this and all related threads. Doesn't ANYONE give a shit about what's true and what's not anymore?

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Posted by Inland in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Mon May 15th 2006, 09:10 AM
in DC. Here's why:

Fitz's office and the GJ are actually obeying the laws making the proceedings secret. That means that the ONLY people who REALLY know what is going on AREN'T TALKING. There's no inside info, no knowledgeable leaks, no background briefings, NOTHING from the inside.

The people who ARE talking are those who extrapolating from clues or have a personal agenda, eg, defense attorneys trying to spin and the media who are trying to read tea leaves.

So really, anything you hear about what Fitz is doing or the grand jury is doing must be discounted as coming, directly or indirectly, from someone who doesn't know or has an incentive to lie.

All you know is that you aren't getting the information from someone who really knows what's going on. All THOSE people aren't talking.

So relax, be skeptical, and wait for it.
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Sat May 13th 2006, 11:02 AM
Ergo, the news didn't surprise the terrorists, did surprise the citizens.

The real enemy, to Bush, is public opinion. If he doesn't hide what he's doing, we'll stop it. Therefore the important thing is to keep US in the dark, and anyone who leaks is helping the enemy, misguided public opinion in a democracy, help the enemy, the terrorists.

You're the enemy. You shouldn't have been tipped off.
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Fri May 12th 2006, 12:18 PM
Are we supposed to beg people who invite themselves out to stay?

Are we supposed to actually point out the record of the party and contrast it to the bullshit of statements like "they don't give jack?"

Are we supposed to compare a guy busting his ass for america with something like "you don't care about me, but..."

And calling a straight shooter a "cynical manipulator" JUST BECAUSE HE MIGHT DISAGREE on a single position, what to say about that?

Fact is, nothing's to be said, because there's nothing to respond to except overblown rhetoric in these threads. If Dean's called all that shit for what he did, then having the EFFRONTERY to not meekly accept the rant is going to get me twice as much. Just hoping he leaves after throwing a bomb in the room, but you know what? They never do.
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Posted by Inland in Latest Breaking News
Thu May 11th 2006, 12:18 PM
I'm familiar the the transposed greek thing, loukoumia, and it's sort of a jelly, not much firmer than Jello, cubed, covered with sugar or more jelly or something. I think it's the equivalent of fruitcake, that is, something that is hypothetically good when it's made well, but never seems to be made well.
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Posted by Inland in Latest Breaking News
Wed May 10th 2006, 10:42 PM
"There's a sense of disquiet because of the war in Iraq," said Bush, in an hour-long interview with the Orlando Sentinel and six other Florida newspapers.
Some of you young'uns won't remember this, but nothing got Carter more shit than admitting that America had a sense of "malaise". Turns out even depressed, angry people don't like presidents remarking on their being depressed or angry without DOING something about it, because then it sounds like it's the people's fault, not theirs.

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Posted by Inland in Editorials & Other Articles
Wed May 10th 2006, 05:31 PM
Looking at the actual letter excerpts, Wolcott wonders why it's dismissed as nuttier than the shit we are given every day by Bush. Read the entire thing at http://www.jameswolcott.com /

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Consider its front-pager about the "I-rant" letter sent by Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmainejad (or as the Post refers to him, the "Iran Jerk") to the bicyclist at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The Post editors made the epistle sound like it was written in mad drool. LETTER LUNACY is the phrase they deploy over brief excerpts from the "Nut's note." I glanced at the excerpts and was disappointed by how unnutty they in fact were. The old Post would have served up better doozies.

Take this one (and the ellipses are the Post's):

ON SADDAM HUSSEIN: "Of course, Saddam was a murderous dictator. ...I point out that throughout the many years of the...war on Iran, Saddam was supported by the West."

Nothing nutty there. After all, the notorious Rumsfeld-Hussein handshake didn't happen because they chanced to bump into each other at a movie premiere. No, the evidence is with the Iranian president on this one.

ON REPORTS OF SECRET PRISONS FOR TERRORISTS: "I fail to understand how such actions correspond to the values outlined in...the teachings of Jesus Christ, human rights and liberal values."

I fail to, too. Secret prisons, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib--these violate the very values the Bush administration contends it's defending. No, I'm afraid the Iranian president rolls a rhetorical winner with this one.
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Posted by Inland in Economy
Wed May 10th 2006, 05:13 PM
I don't understand the argument that the economy is going great but if the government doesn't keep on with higher deficits and more unfair taxation, it's going to tank. When, exactly, is a good time to stop adding to deficit spending if not now? When would be a good time to let the middle class and working class in on the party, if not now?
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Fri May 05th 2006, 01:14 PM
from lobbyists? Or paid company of any sort? And what about Profumo?

Shouldn't Porter Goss be put in a little tiny room and questioned while every inch of his house is tossed and all parties involved questioned under that fucking Patriot Act that Bush would have at his disposal just for this sort of thing?

Is this really a sex scandal? Is it even really a lobbyist scandal? Isn't it another Bushian rolling national security fuckup?

And if not, is there still a problem with out homosexuals holding security positions?
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Posted by Inland in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Thu May 04th 2006, 07:09 PM
to sacrifice their wealth and political futures to save the nation. Like his successor, or congress, or god, or the Iraqis, or whoEVER. It'll be like Clinton all over again. He'll get blamed for raising taxes AND for deficits. They are already getting set to blame democrats and liberals for losing Iraq and for gas prices.
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Posted by Inland in Illinois
Tue May 02nd 2006, 07:15 PM
1. Chicago isn't a shining example of a democratic city because americans, including a fair number of democrats, don't like cities. They just don't. Chicago is a place to make money and put up bigger than fuck buildings to make more money. It straddles rivers of water and metaphorical rivers of money. Its universities, hospitals, and seminaries churn out ideas that are controversial or arcane. People can't even figure out what the Board of Trade does or how it does it. It is full of immigrants and scrapers and enormously rich types and streets and defined neighborhoods where inhabitants know ever brick. Most americans don't like that shit one bit, and don't think it's got anything to do with their lives. There hasn't been a city built with a centralized urban core since San Francisco was rebuilt after the earthquake, and the large majority don't value them. They like Las Vegas's faux New York and something Kunstler would criticize.

2. Cities have all those intractable problems that politicians and parties don't like dealing with. Education, crime, drugs, etc. National politicians aren't like Daley, who runs the nuts and bolts of local government on the front lines. If they noticed what we were doing that was good, then they might be cornered into helping. So good news gets ignored along with the bad.

3. The particular problem you picked out, public schools, is a problem that everyone acknowledges, and advances have been made. But to put a point on it, it's a statewide problem of taxes and the amount it takes to support schools. Crap public schools are found everywhere poor kids exist. That's a fact.

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