I do agree with the theory/idea (call it whatever you want) of evolution. The spirit path says - the big bang was instigated by something . . . you can have an infinite end but not an infinite beginning.

What disturbs me about these discussions is that they are always wrapped up in the bible. Be it King James, The Book, Roman Catholic, yada yada yada.

I have to preface this with the fact that I'm a Practicing Unitarian (humanist), raised by a Baptist and Methodist, who attend a Parochial (Catholic) high school and Catholic University.

However, as a little girl I learned an oral version of the Cherokee Creation story and was rewarded with Fried Apple Pie for repeating it back to my dad's mother. My parternal Grandmother was part Cherokee. She learned it from her mother, who learned it from her mother, who learned it from hers, and so on and so forth. She taught it to all of us. It's in TEN PARTS. Those of you who study numerology in the context of unorthodox Christianity, Celtic traditions, and African Tribal religions will understand that significance.

I'll paraphrase the TEN points:

1. Before there were people the earth was just covered with a lot of water.

2. The 'dirt' aka 'earth' was suspended by straps of leather (can't remember the word she used but it was a Cherokee word) which held it up over the water. On the earth lived all kinds of animals, bugs, flora, etc. etc. There was a beautiful sun, a rainbow. It was a beautiful place up there.

3. The animals decided to come down to the water but they needed someplace to put the 'earth'. The Water Beetle Lady was sent down into the water to see what she could find. She creates a place to put down the 'earth' by rustling up some mud. But heavy animals would just sink down into the mud.

4. The Old Man (a bird -again can't remember the Cherokee word she used - but it's a word for a bird) goes out after some time to see if the mud is sturdy enough for other animals. As he's flying over this 'mud' he stirs up the dirt and this is why we have hills and dales. The mountains are so big that they touch the end of the rainbow. He rests on the mountain, and discovers that it is definately sturdy enough for all of the animals.

5. The animals come down to the new 'earth' via the rainbow. But they discover it's dark and cold.

6. They decided to pull their sun down to this new earth and to have it go back and forth from east to west so that all the new creatures on earth can enjoy the sun.

7. Then they decided to bring down their trees, grass, flowers, plants.

8. This is the good part - pay attention! Why? It's people far far away from the Passion Death Resurrection witht no influence of Isis, Mithra, Abraham, Moses, or Jesus

***The Creator tells the everything to stay awake for seven days and nights . ******

9. Only a few animals were actually able to do this. Like for example owls, and bats - and that's why they have the ability to see so well at night. And the pine trees and their 'type' - they got to keep their 'needles and leaves' in the winter because they did as the Creator told them.

10. Finally The Creator looks around and says, "What the heck. Let's have some people." The creator lets women have babies every seven days! But we were WORSE mg: than the rabbits (I can still hear my Grandmama laughing at that bit). We had so many PEOPLE that The Creator feared we'd trample everything and hurt all of the animals. So then The Creator said, "Women - you have this power to create. But you can only do it once a year."

So from a Cherokee perspective - we came not from "Out of the Deep". . . But from up above. And we've always placed The Creators beautiful wonderful work of art in jeopardy!


My point? I wasn't there at the beginning of time. I might have come from the deep. I might have come from above.

But I find it significant that human beings at one time all resided on one land mass. As the earth changed and split into the continents - there was something imprinted on those on 'this Western Hemisphere side of the world' that was ALSO imprinted on those in the Eastern side of the world.

Take Jesus and the Torah out of it. In the spectrum of Spiritual Paths - these are very very YOUNG and NEW ideas/paths. But these seven days/seven nights, up from above, man/woman created and falling into disfavor with 'The God/Creator' are common themes.

So do I think evolution is valid and logical? Again, I'll say yes. Do I think that as part of the Human Experience we seek a beginning? Yes to that too.