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Posted by Land Shark in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Fri Jan 29th 2010, 09:46 PM
1. OF THE PEOPLE: In a government "OF the people, BY the people, and FOR the people," who is IN CHARGE and the source of all legitimate power?

A. The People
B. The People
C. The People

2. BY THE PEOPLE: Which one of the following provides 100% of the votes used to transfer power to elected representatives who in turn hold that power in trust to serve the public good?

A. The People
B. The People
C. The People

3. FOR THE PEOPLE: Who are the elected representatives obliged to dedicate their entire service to when they become public servants?

A. The People
B. The People
C. The People

4. WHO'S THE PEOPLE: If "of the people" means natural person voters, "by the people" means natural person officeholders, does the word "people" as used for the third time in "for the people" mean something entirely different than natural persons, such as corporations?

A. The same People
B. The same People
C. The same People

5. CONSTITUTIONAL INTENT: In order for something to be in the Constitution, it requires a super-majority such as 3/4 of the state's legislatures to specifically ratify language in order for it to be in the Constitution. When in US history did a supermajority of Americans favor unfettered First Amendment rights as "persons" for corporations, and on what date was there a 3/4 vote in approval of that intent for the Constitution's First Amendment?

A. Never, didn't happen - no way to show history of constitutional debate on this question.
B. Never, didn't happen - no way to show history of constitutional debate on this question.
C. Never, didn't happen - no way to show history of constitutional debate on this question.

6. EXTRA CREDIT: What happens to "Justices" of the Supreme Court who, (even Roberts the "perpetual A student" who vowed as Chief Justice to "call balls and strikes") fail to understand the most basic facts above about self-government and the Constitution, and serve things other than We the People?

A. Impeached, Convicted, Removed from Office with Lifetime Bar, Referred for Investigation of criminal Treason charges.

B. We Accept The Cue from the majority opinion to act on foreign money, take action against "foreign" shareholders, implicitly punish any American co-shareholders, thereby reinforce xenophobia, and finally fall into the trap of believing that corporations can get rights (and characteristics like "foreigner") from their shareholders thereby causing some of us to believe in corporate personhood fictions ourselves, all the while taking a firm course of inaction about the true threat from within: domestic ideological nonprofit corporations like Citizens United itself, who act to drown out the rights and voices of others.

C. I Wish to Put My Brief Essay Response in the thread below.




Corpse may call themselves "persons," but they'll never be The People!


Corpse can hide, but they can't run! (for office).


Corpse: If natural person shareholders can somehow derivatively transfer "rights" TO THEIR CORPORATIONS, then those same shareholders can also get corresponding DUTIES and LIABILITIES shoved right back down the same pipe those "rights" came up in!




Shareholders purporting to transfer any of their rights to corporations have, by their own act of waiver, PIERCED THE VEIL of corporate limited liability for purposes of this "association." Therefore, like any association or partnership, we can sue every member and not just the corporate shell.

That means, with the corporate veil of limited liability thus breached, We can reach into the pockets of those shareholders to pay the damages for all of their crimes: environmental crimes, war crimes, crimes against democracy, crimes against humanity, crimes against workers, tax crimes, frauds, corruptions etc.



Folks, if you just stop thinking it's grim, you can see the great vulnerability of the same over-reaching power grab by corporations that makes some depressed! Then we can be on our way to re-establishing justice, ensuring domestic tranquillity, providing for the general welfare, all by making an appropriate adjustment in limited liability laws.

There's DEFINITELY no "First Amendment right" to limited liability!! Take action to pierce the veil permanently and shareholders are going to want to crawl back into the shell they came from!



Answer: All answers A, B and C in questions 1-5 get full credit, as well as Answer A to question 6. Only answer B in question 6 is wrong. Essay responses to answer C of question 6 to be "graded" as they develop.

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