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Posted by MikeH in General Discussion
Thu Jul 17th 2008, 07:36 PM
Some reflections on being "mainstream" vs. being "different" in response to a post in thread titled JUST A BIKER
For myself I am and always have been for the most part "mainstream" in taste, clothing, lifestyle, and appearance.

I personally have no desire to get a tattoo, or dye my hair, or ride a motorcycle. And I personally have a very hard time identifying with the desire to pierce one's body.

It is important for each person to make their own choices about what they want to do, whether that is being "mainstream" or being "wild". In particular I will say that I do not appreciate somebody telling me that there is something wrong with my being mostly "mainstream", any more than you or somebody else appreciate being told that there is something wrong with you being "different".

Even though I am mostly "mainstream", I will say that it has been a process for me to become much less uptight, and much less judgmental about people who are "different", than I used to be when I was younger.

I had a very difficult dad, who was very very much "mainstream", very conforming, and very, very judgmental. I remember as a young man trying to be a "good boy" for my dad, and deviating hardly at all from certain conventions, even though many of my peers were doing so (this was in the late 60's and early 70's). And I tended to be very judgmental of those who were "different".

However I found that even though I was very much "mainstream", I was not going to escape the judgment of my dad. For instance I was not going to not ever make honest mistakes, and I was not going to never forget something. And being young I was not going to have my dad's knowledge of the world. And I was going to have problems, and things that bothered me and that I got upset about, and was not always going to be able to handle them in a fully "adult" way.

My dad often treated an honest mistake, an honest forgetting of something, or something that was not quite according to his standards as if it were a crime, or a heinous sin, or an affront to his pride. He always said he was doing this "for my own good", which he in Godlike fashion decided I needed. And he was often very poor at understanding from my point of view some sensitive issue that was causing me to be upset. In short, my dad sometimes bordered on being abusive, especially emotionally and psychologically (though I did receive my share of spankings when I was a kid).

My dad died in 1985, shortly before my 35th birthday. I came to fully realize how angry I still was at my dad about a year after he died. I came to realize that much of his behavior was actually abusive; i.e. it was not just something wrong with me that I was often angry with him and resented him and things he said and did. Just coming to this realization was an extremely important step for me.

I have been in therapy over the years to deal with my issues, both relating to my dad and otherwise. One thing I learned was to distinguish between things that people did that really were not OK or not appropriate, and really did violate me in some way, and things that my getting upset with or offended by was my problem. And I also learned a sense of how much importance to attach to things that were not OK, and to better confront things that were actually not OK and important to confront, and let go the other things.

Just by having my own sense of things as described above, I became much better at not being upset by or judgmental of other people who are "different", or not like myself.

Incidentally the Swiss writer and psychotherapist Alice Miller in her books and writings documents how abuse suffered at the hands of one's parents, particularly when one was too small and too young to remember, and which is unconscious, manifests itself in hatred for surrogate targets, such as people who are "different".

In fact here is an interesting quote by Alice Miller in an article titled The Political Consequences of Child Abuse.

What is hatred? As I see it, it is a possible consequence of the rage and despair that cannot be consciously felt by a child who has been neglected and mistreated even before he or she has learned to speak. As long as the anger directed at a parent or other first caregiver remains unconscious or disavowed, it cannot be dissipated. It can only be taken out on oneself or stand-ins, on scapegoats such as one's own children or alleged enemies. Sympathetic observation of the cries of an infant brings home forcibly to the onlooker how intense the feelings involved must be. The hatred can finally work as a lifesaving defense against the life-threatening powerlessness.


Here is another very telling passage in the same article.

In the lives of all the tyrants I examined, I found without exception paranoid trains of thought bound up with their biographies in early childhood and the repression of the experiences they had been through. Mao had been regularly whipped by his father and later sent 30 million people to their deaths, but he hardly ever admitted the full extent of the rage he must have felt toward his own father, a very severe teacher who had tried through beatings to "make a man" out of his son. Stalin caused millions to suffer and die because even at the height of his power his actions were determined by unconscious infantile fear of powerlessness. Apparently his father, a poor cobbler from Georgia, attempted to drown his frustration with liquor and whipped his son almost every day. His mother displayed psychotic traits, was completely incapable of defending her son and was usually away from home either praying in church or running the priest's household. Stalin idealized his parents right up to the end of his life and was constantly haunted by the fear of dangers that had long since ceased to exist but were still present in his deranged mind. The same might be true of many other tyrants. The groups of people they singled out for persecution and the rationalization mechanisms they employed were different in each case, but the fundamental reason behind it was probably identical. They often drew on ideologies to disguise the truth and their own paranoia. And the masses chimed in enthusiastically because they were unaware of the real motives, including those operative in their own biographies. The infantile revenge fantasies of individuals would be of no account if society did not regularly show such naive alacrity in helping to make them come true.


Actually even though I am mostly conventional as far as tastes, appearance, lifestyle, and values are concerned, I actually do have one personal taste that has long been considered out of the mainstream. Since I was an adolescent I have always had a physical, sexual attraction to body hair on women. I particularly like hairy legs on women, but also like body hair elsewhere, such as legs, underarms, etc. That was one thing I didn't tell anybody when I was an adolescent, but since college I have come to tell a number of people.

It has always bothered me that just about anything else has been acceptable in our society at some time since the 1960's, except for natural body hair on women. I was bothered in the 1970's that hairy legs and hairy underarms on women did not become common and widespread like long (head) hair on men. And now it especially boggles my mind that body piercings are more acceptable than natural body hair on women. It really bothers me that women practically *have to* go through all kinds of pain and trouble to remove any and all body hair.

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Morality and Duty, and Access to Spontaneous or Childhood Feelings
Morality and performance of duty are artificial measures that become necessary when something essential is lacking. The more successfully a person was denied access to his or her feelings in childhood, the larger the arsenal of intellectual weapons and the supply of moral prostheses has to be, because morality and a sense of duty are not sources of strength or fruitful soil for genuine affection. Blood does not flow in artificial limbs; they are for sale and can serve many masters. What was considered good yesterday can--depending on the decree of government of party--be considered evil and corrupt today, and vice versa. But those who have spontaneous feelings can only be themselves. They have no other choice if they want to remain true to themselves. Rejection, ostracism, loss of love, and name calling will not fail to affect them; they will suffer as a result and will dread them, but once they have found their authentic self they will not want to lose it. And when they sense that something is being demanded of them to which their whole being says no, they cannot do it. They simply cannot.

Alice Miller, For Your Own Good

http://www.nospank.net/fyog10.htm#central
Learning from Hitler and his childhood
What point is there for us today in learning about Hitler and his history? For me, the main point is this: our knowledge will serve as a warning against our blindness and encourage us to give it up once and for all and to struggle against collective repression. This is what I do consistently in all my books in order to help people understand the psychodynamics of the mistreatment of children and its immeasurable danger for society, as demonstrated by Hitler's case. My explanations are by no means intended to suggest pity for a man as merciless as Hitler.

it was in large part owing to Hitler and his history that I became aware of the dangers of our traditional morality. We are exhorted to honor our parents and never question them no matter what they have done. Yet when I realize that millions of human beings had to die so that Adolf Hitler could keep his repression of childhood trauma intact, that millions were subjected to humiliation in concentration camps so that he never had to recognize how he had once been humiliated, then I believe that one can't point out these connections often enough in order to shed light on this unconscious production of evil. How should young people be expected to recognize and reject inhumanity and crime if these continue to be disguised instead of being pointed out as plainly as possible? Only when young people are permitted to know exactly what happened and how it could happen, only if they don't allow anything to stifle their curiosity and are not afraid of the truth, can they free themselves from the burden placed upon them by their forebears' blindness.

Alice Miller

http://www.naturalchild.com/alice_miller/a...

See also
http://www.nospank.net/fyog13.htm
http://www.nospank.net/fyog2.htm
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