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Posted by MikeH in Religion/Theology
Tue Jul 22nd 2008, 07:03 PM
My response to a fundamentalist Christian's thoughts on humility
Humility is the opposite of pride or arrogance.

I will certainly agree with that much.

It is the recognition that oneself is not worthy, either in comparison to others, or in comparison to a standard of worthiness.

Perhaps.

I would say that humility would include seriously considering the possibility that one might be wrong in one's beliefs, particularly any beliefs that one feels certain about. And it would especially include considering the possibility that even if one is on the right path for oneself, that does not necessarily mean that somebody who is following a different path is wrong, and is headed for deep trouble either in this life or especially in the next life (if there is one).

For instance a Christian might feel certain that for himself/herself the Bible is the "authoritative Word of God", and Jesus is "the Way" for that person to follow. However a truly humble Christian would respect that a different path might be right for someone else to follow, and would especially respect that another person might not be wrong, and maybe even just might be right, in not accepting the Bible as the "authoritative Word of God", and that it might be the right thing for a person to not "accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior", or it might be the right thing for a particular person who has been a Christian to part company with the Christian faith.

A truly humble person does not think that he/she has God's plan all "figured out" from what is said in the Bible or any other alleged revelation from God, and has not figured out what religious or spiritual path is right or wrong for another person.

I find it very arrogant, and not humble, for a Christian to feel certain that the Bible is the "authoritative Word of God" to the point that the person feels very certain in thinking that other people had better "accept Christ as their Lord and Savior" or else they are liable to be condemned to hell for all eternity.

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Morality and Duty, and Access to Spontaneous or Childhood Feelings
Morality and performance of duty are artificial measures that become necessary when something essential is lacking. The more successfully a person was denied access to his or her feelings in childhood, the larger the arsenal of intellectual weapons and the supply of moral prostheses has to be, because morality and a sense of duty are not sources of strength or fruitful soil for genuine affection. Blood does not flow in artificial limbs; they are for sale and can serve many masters. What was considered good yesterday can--depending on the decree of government of party--be considered evil and corrupt today, and vice versa. But those who have spontaneous feelings can only be themselves. They have no other choice if they want to remain true to themselves. Rejection, ostracism, loss of love, and name calling will not fail to affect them; they will suffer as a result and will dread them, but once they have found their authentic self they will not want to lose it. And when they sense that something is being demanded of them to which their whole being says no, they cannot do it. They simply cannot.

Alice Miller, For Your Own Good

http://www.nospank.net/fyog10.htm#central
Learning from Hitler and his childhood
What point is there for us today in learning about Hitler and his history? For me, the main point is this: our knowledge will serve as a warning against our blindness and encourage us to give it up once and for all and to struggle against collective repression. This is what I do consistently in all my books in order to help people understand the psychodynamics of the mistreatment of children and its immeasurable danger for society, as demonstrated by Hitler's case. My explanations are by no means intended to suggest pity for a man as merciless as Hitler.

it was in large part owing to Hitler and his history that I became aware of the dangers of our traditional morality. We are exhorted to honor our parents and never question them no matter what they have done. Yet when I realize that millions of human beings had to die so that Adolf Hitler could keep his repression of childhood trauma intact, that millions were subjected to humiliation in concentration camps so that he never had to recognize how he had once been humiliated, then I believe that one can't point out these connections often enough in order to shed light on this unconscious production of evil. How should young people be expected to recognize and reject inhumanity and crime if these continue to be disguised instead of being pointed out as plainly as possible? Only when young people are permitted to know exactly what happened and how it could happen, only if they don't allow anything to stifle their curiosity and are not afraid of the truth, can they free themselves from the burden placed upon them by their forebears' blindness.

Alice Miller

http://www.naturalchild.com/alice_miller/a...

See also
http://www.nospank.net/fyog13.htm
http://www.nospank.net/fyog2.htm
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