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Posted by MikeH in Religion/Theology
Thu Jul 24th 2008, 07:25 PM
Response to a fundamentalist Christian regarding humility, and "many spiritual paths" vs. "Jesus being the only way"
Zeb, you seem to be totally lacking in the ability to see yourself as others perceive you; otherwise you would realize how arrogant, smug, and insensitive you come across at some times, and how ridiculous you come across at other times.

In fact, C. S. Lewis, in his introduction to Screwtape Letters (which I am sure is one of your favorite books, you being the kind of Christian you are), talks about humor as involving a sense of proportion and the ability to see yourself from the outside. I think humility would also involve these attributes. You, in common with the devils (at least according to C. S. Lewis), seem to be completely lacking in these attributes.

I think it is ridiculous for you to think that I am arrogant for being firm in my belief that there are many spiritual paths.

By your unquestioningly accepting that Jesus is the only way for any person just because this one particular book, The BIBLE, says so, and the Bible is (supposedly) God's absolute truth which must not be questioned, you are no different from the good Germans in the 1930's who went along with Hitler, and accepted that the Germans were the master race, and other races were inferior, because Hitler said so.

In comparing you to the "good Germans", please keep in mind that it is with the benefit of hindsight and of history that nobody now denies how evil Hitler was. In the 1930's many people who went along with Hitler were outwardly "good" people, some of them "good" Christians. And here in America, a large portion of shrub's "base" has consisted of, and still consists of, YOUR TYPE of Christians, Zeb, i.e. fundamentalist Christians who unquestioningly and uncritically accept that this one particular book, the Bible, is God's absolute truth.

And even though you probably are not guilty of anti-Semitism, or other specific crimes and sins that the Nazis were guilty of, the psychology of unquestioning absolute adherence to any authority is the same, whether that authority be the Bible, Hitler, the Koran, the Pope, or anything or anybody else.

So you consider yourself "humble" because you unquestioningly accept the authority of the Bible, and consider me to be "arrogant" because I do not accept such authority, and reject the teaching that Jesus is "the only way" to God, and instead believe that there are many different spiritual paths, some being right for some, and others being right for others.

You might just as well consider a "good German" to be humble because he/she unquestioningly accepts the authority of Hitler, and firmly believes that Germans are the master race, and other races are inferior. And you would by the same logic then consider someone who firmly holds to the conviction, expressed in our Declaration of Independence, that all men (and women, too) are created equal, as being arrogant.

And yes, I am firm in my beliefs that there are many spiritual paths, some of which might be right for some, and some right for others. In particular, I absolutely and totally reject, with all my being, any obligation to concern myself with whether others are "saved" or "unsaved", and to tell others that they need to "accept Christ", motivated by the belief that Jesus is "the way and the truth", and "nobody comes to the father but through him". I do not see how one can get any joy or enjoyment out of life if one really believes that and has to have in the back of one's mind that others are either "saved" or "unsaved". If this makes me "arrogant", then so be it. However if you really think that this makes me arrogant, then you are absolutely crazy.
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Morality and Duty, and Access to Spontaneous or Childhood Feelings
Morality and performance of duty are artificial measures that become necessary when something essential is lacking. The more successfully a person was denied access to his or her feelings in childhood, the larger the arsenal of intellectual weapons and the supply of moral prostheses has to be, because morality and a sense of duty are not sources of strength or fruitful soil for genuine affection. Blood does not flow in artificial limbs; they are for sale and can serve many masters. What was considered good yesterday can--depending on the decree of government of party--be considered evil and corrupt today, and vice versa. But those who have spontaneous feelings can only be themselves. They have no other choice if they want to remain true to themselves. Rejection, ostracism, loss of love, and name calling will not fail to affect them; they will suffer as a result and will dread them, but once they have found their authentic self they will not want to lose it. And when they sense that something is being demanded of them to which their whole being says no, they cannot do it. They simply cannot.

Alice Miller, For Your Own Good

http://www.nospank.net/fyog10.htm#central
Learning from Hitler and his childhood
What point is there for us today in learning about Hitler and his history? For me, the main point is this: our knowledge will serve as a warning against our blindness and encourage us to give it up once and for all and to struggle against collective repression. This is what I do consistently in all my books in order to help people understand the psychodynamics of the mistreatment of children and its immeasurable danger for society, as demonstrated by Hitler's case. My explanations are by no means intended to suggest pity for a man as merciless as Hitler.

it was in large part owing to Hitler and his history that I became aware of the dangers of our traditional morality. We are exhorted to honor our parents and never question them no matter what they have done. Yet when I realize that millions of human beings had to die so that Adolf Hitler could keep his repression of childhood trauma intact, that millions were subjected to humiliation in concentration camps so that he never had to recognize how he had once been humiliated, then I believe that one can't point out these connections often enough in order to shed light on this unconscious production of evil. How should young people be expected to recognize and reject inhumanity and crime if these continue to be disguised instead of being pointed out as plainly as possible? Only when young people are permitted to know exactly what happened and how it could happen, only if they don't allow anything to stifle their curiosity and are not afraid of the truth, can they free themselves from the burden placed upon them by their forebears' blindness.

Alice Miller

http://www.naturalchild.com/alice_miller/a...

See also
http://www.nospank.net/fyog13.htm
http://www.nospank.net/fyog2.htm
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