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Posted by Peace Patriot in Latest Breaking News
Thu Nov 19th 2009, 10:16 AM
I totally agree. He should be restored--and the elections postponed--for the length of time that the people of Honduras were denied his leadership. Negotiators should never have permitted the golpistas to shrink Zelaya's term like this. That is extremely unfair and unjust. They've been playing this for time. That is very clear. And if they had a beef against Zelaya, they had plenty of institutions in their control to bring charges and try him while he remained in the office he was elected to, in fair circumstances in which he could defend himself. Instead, they forced him out of the country at gunpoint, and invented these trumped up charges in absentia, even forging his signature on a letter of resignation. They had no case. They just wanted him gone. That, truly, is tyranny.

One of the charges against him was that he wanted the people to vote on lifting his term limit. A strange provision of the Honduran Constitution (which was written by Reagan's henchmen in the 1980s) is that no one can even talk about lifting the term limit on the president--a provision that should long ago have been declared unconstitutional, since it directly contradicts guarantees of free speech. The likely reason that the Reaganites gave the president only ONE four year term, and forbade talk of more, was to have a president who could not accumulate the political power within government to challenge the rule of the "ten families" and US corporate domination, as well as the US military presence in Honduras.

Well, even the worst of Constitutions (and Oscar Arias has called Honduras' Constitution "the worst in the world") cannot outlaw someone merely WANTING something. Zelaya may have wanted his term limit lifted, but he never said any such thing--nor did any of the union leaders, community organizers, religious advocates of the poor and numerous people and groups across Honduras on whose behalf Zelaya proposed an advisory vote yes or no, do you want to convene a Constituent Assembly to discuss and rewrite the Honduran Constitution? This was a call for fundamental reform of Honduras' rancid political system and very bad Constitution, which would have involved all segments of Honduran society, and would have been a good thing. It was no rushed vote on term limits or anything else. It involved all issues, and it was to be an advisory vote--just to get a discussion of change and reform started.

It's important for Zelaya supporters to know this. Zelaya did not break ANY law--not even the strange law against discussing term limits. He did not call for lifting his term limit. The vote he called for could not have done so. He knew that his term would be up in six months. He proposed this vote of the people to begin a general reform discussion in Honduras because he agreed with grass roots groups that one was badly needed.

Zelaya is a reformist--a progressive and an advocate of the poor. He raised the minimum wage in one of the poorest countries in Latin America against the wishes of US corps operating in Honduras, and instituted other such reforms to help the poor majority. And he ran up against the Honduran oligarchy (of which he was a born member until they violently threw him out of the country) and against the rancid rightwing Bushwhacks in this country, with the Obama administration evidently of a mind to toady to the far rightwing on Latin American issues.

Obama at first said the right thing--that Zelaya is "the only president of Honduras" and must be restored to office immediately--but then his envoys caved to the rightwing junta, after making the 'mistake' (if it was a mistake and not deliberate) of permitting this illegal junta to set the conditions for Zelaya's return. It looks very like the Obama administration stabbed Zelaya in the back--but whether that is the case or not, that is how it is being perceived throughout Latin America, and that is a victory for the foaming-at-the-mouth Bushwhacks like Jim DeMint (Puke-SC). Obama's stated policy of peace, respect and cooperation has been successfully sabotaged by the Bushwhacks (whether willingly or not, by Obama, I can't say).

Another factor in this situation--and probably the most important of all--is that Zelaya proposed converting the US military base in Honduras to a commercial airport. The US military is hated throughout Latin America. Its presence is generally considered an assault on the country's sovereignty. And Honduras is in need of a bigger international airport. To most of Latin America, this was a reasonable proposal--but not to the Pentagon which is still working on a Rumsfeld war plan for stealing Latin American oil (in Venezuela and probably Ecuador). Honduras is a strategic war asset in that plan, with a US military base and port facilities on the Caribbean, and a long bloody history of being used as a "stepping stool" for US war in the region. The Pentagon (through the Bush-appointed ambassador to Colombia--a really bad guy) just negotiated basically a South Vietnam-like invasion of Colombia--seven new US military bases there, with 600 US soldiers and 600 US 'contractors' (to start with) all immunized against Colombian laws. Colombia--a country with one of the worst human rights records on earth--is already the recipient of $6 BILLION in US taxpayer-funded military booty.

The seven bases agreement has to come to Congress now, for approval--and this is likely THE most important element in everything that has occurred in the political scene here with regard to Honduras----including the Bushwhacks' blockade of Obama's Latin American appointments. It's all about the war plan and war profiteering.

Honduras is just a "pawn" on the Pentagon's big war game table. The Honduran people want something more--a real country, a real democracy. Zelaya tried to help them with that, with no immediate gain possible for himself, and, as it turned out, at great risk and danger.

One more thought, on the imminent so-called 'elections.' The Junta now has total control of the voting system, and has purged any and all "rule of law" types from government service. They have been brutally suppressing the Honduran people with martial law, suspension of all civil rights, shutdown of opposition media, arbitrary arrests and home invasions, military road blockades, beatings, rapes, torture and murders. At least 26 people have died for Honduran democracy. One political candidate for president had his arm broken by the Honduran police. The two main candidates, from the Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum parties (just like here), both support the junta, and they have gotten all the TV/radio air time, and are also likely among the recipients of John McCain's US taxpayer funded largesse (through the "International Republican Institute"/USAID--$43 million to rightwing gorups in Honduras).

These are the reasons why the Resistance in Honduras, Zelaya himself and his government-in-exile, and all of Latin America (and also the EU) consider these elections to be a farce. The nomination process needs to be re-done, to give the left (which represents the majority--Zelaya has a 67% approval rating in Honduras!) a chance to recover from the brutal repression, and to unify the opposition to the Junta behind one candidate. The Honduran people would mostly likely prefer to have a better choice than T-dee and T-dum, but they have not been given a chance to vet the existing alternative candidates, nor has the left had a chance to address the election in view of the Junta. There might well be another unifying figure besides Mel Zelaya. Mrs. Zelaya comes to mind--a great and brave woman who has marched at the head of protests after her husband was violently torn from her side--but there are many other potential candidates for president among the Resistance leaders--the union leaders and others who have shown such fantastic organizing skills in the midst of martial law. Also, I believe other offices are up for election as well--seats in the national assembly, etc. The left needs a chance to nominate candidates and to campaign for all offices.

So this would be a program for fair elections:

1. Postpone the elections for six months, and restart the nomination process.

2. Zelaya is restored to his rightful office, with full presidential powers, during that period.

3. The election is conducted entirely by the OAS, with no participation by the Honduran military.

4. And, of course, all civil rights fully restored, starting now.

There should also be a vote on the Constituent Assembly. The people of Honduras overwhelmingly favor this fundamental reform process. Oscar Arias (who acted as a US agent in this affair) said that if Honduras cannot hold a fair election, the "only solution" is a Constituent Assembly. But if Honduras can hold a fair election--as per the above--the Constituent Assembly issue may arise naturally as part of the campaign, if campaign conditions are fair. The issue of reform SHOULD arise naturally out of a campaign process, in a country that is so badly in need of reform.

What are the chances of these things happening? Pretty much nil, since Obama abandoned Zelaya. The Junta has found that the Bushwhacks here are the real powers on US Latin American policy. They thus will never permit fair elections in Honduras. The real powers in the US--US-based global corporate predators and war profiteers, and their Bushwhack political lackeys--do not want fair elections in Honduras, so they will not happen--not in the immediate future anyway. I think they will happen eventually, if Latin America maintains solidarity on this matter (which they seem to be doing), but probably not without considerable cost to the Honduran people, in continued resistance and continued and worsening poverty.

Latin Americans have been moved by a passion for real democracy, and woe betide anyone who attempts to blockade people with that particular passion in their souls. It is an unstoppable historic movement, much like our own initial revolution.
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What are the Traitorgate cover-ups covering up?
The reason Fitzgerald hasn't indicted anyone on the Plame/Brewster-Jennings outingS--though he has a number of the outers by the short hairs--Cheney, Libby, Rove, Armitage, Novak--COULD be that he is either suspicious of the story (political revenge) or already knows that it is a cover story.

And that points to Rumsfeld, in my book. Office of Special Plans.

Look at this way: This conspiracy--if it was, indeed, a conspiracy to plant the nukes in Iraq after the invasion--would have two tracks, political and operational. Cheney in the charge of the political end. Rumsfeld in charge of the operational end. Cheney segues the forged docs into a full-scale allegation against Iraq on nukes, and insures that it gets into Bush's SOTU speech (against advice from several agencies). He continues to adamantly defend that charge no matter how often it is totally and completely debunked. Why doesn't he temper it--show a bit of caution (considering the evidence)? Nope. It has got to be THAT charge--over and over. In addition, the whole Junta goes into summer '03 still maintaining that WMDs will be found (--although many will soon switch to "Iraqi freedom" as motive for the war). It's all set up for the phony "find"--and a triumphant Bush-Blair announcement that will smother all criticism, and all talk of "sexed up" prewar intel, and will cement their political positions with their FIRST and foremost justification for the war: WMDs.

Rumsfeld (if this theory is true) has meanwhile got several black ops teams (possibly connected to the notorious Iran/Contra arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar, who was present at the Rome meeting of Pentagon Neo-Cons and SISMI in late 2001, where many suspect the Niger forgeries were cooked up) moving nukes illicitly into (or on their way to) Iraq. He's got NYT WMD propagandist Judith Miller "embedded" with the U.S. troops who were "hunting" for WMDs (and, according to reports, actually directing, or trying to direct, their efforts), ready to get the "big scoop" of a WMD "find." (She said she had an "embed" contract signed by Donald Rumsfeld. Whether it's true or not, why would she claim it? It's like saying: "...but they TOLD me there WOULD BE a story"! She had Rumsfeld's word--or the word of someone speaking for him.) And Rumsfeld furthermore permitted the creation of chaos in Iraq--in his failure to stop the looting and the breakdown of all order (in fact laughing at). Civil chaos was a prime condition for planting WMDs in Iraq and then "finding" them. It was also a prime condition for setting up a puppet government to sign the oil contracts, giving away Iraqis' interest in their only resource (--and for massive looting by corps like Halliburton).

Anyway, that's how it would be: Cheney covering the political front--and scrambling to cover up the "incompetence of others" (as he put it in his memo on not wanting Libby to be the fall guy) when the shit started hitting the fan. No WMDs. Nuke allegation based on forgeries. Wilson calling them out on the false allegation. And David Kelly, in England, whistleblowing to the BBC about the "sexed up" prewar intel. It would have been RUMSFELD's responsibility to get those WMDs planted and "discovered." What we are seeing may be the political fallout of his failure to do so. (We are also seeing him gone--with no change in Iraq War policy. Was it the midterm elections? Or was it that he was operational head of this attempted massive deceit--a phony "find" of weapons--which Cheney in now having to cover for--politically and legally?)

Back in early July 2003, Kelly, under interrogation at a "safe house" --after he had been outed to his bosses (late June 2003)--revealed that he knew something MORE (--Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things," is how it was reported to Tony Blair on July 7, 2003 (Hutton report))-- but he promised not to speak of it publicly ("I wasn't about to give away any government secrets" is how Kelly put it).

I suspect that THIS was the trigger for the Plame/B-J outingS. Not Wilson's article of July 6, but rather the report to Blair on July 7 that Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things." (He was already whistleblowing, so it wasn't something that he HAD said--i.e., the "sexed up" the prewar intel--it was something that he COULD say. What ELSE did he know?) He had friends in Iraq--from his visits there as UN weapons inspector. He had told them that if they cooperate with the UN inspections, there would be no invasion. (And he then told a friend that if there WAS an invasion, he would be "found dead in the woods"--a truly haunting prefiguration.) IF there was a scheme to plant the weapons, he was in a good position to hear about it (--and my distant judgment of his character--excellent scientist, true believer in his mission of stopping WMD proliferation--is that he would have been offended by it; this could even have been the trigger for his own whistleblowing--it pissed him off that such deception was attempted or planned.)

IF the WMD-planting theory is true, the Blairites discovery that Kelly knew about this nefarious scheme would have put tremendous pressure on the Bushites (and the Blairites), because it would appear to them that the plot was in imminent danger of being exposed--whether it was or not. How far had it gone? Who all knew? There were a couple of reports in the Islamic press about botched US efforts to plant WMDs in Iraq (--and what happened to THOSE people (local observers)--Abu Ghraib?). Was the CIA itself about to expose them (contrary to their tradition of secrecy)? But mainly, WHO ELSE knew? If the Brits couldn't keep a lid on it, how many people, from how many directions, could come at them, with facts and evidence about this audacious effort to deceive?

So, in their panic, they outed EVERYBODY--the entire network of deep cover foreign agents and contacts, built up over the years, of friends of the US and friends of humanity, whose job it was to keep us all safe from illicit traffic in weapons of mass destruction. The multiple-outing was because they DIDN'T KNOW--who had foiled them, and who knew. Their purpose: 1) to punish and disable anybody who had foiled their scheme (including getting them killed by their own governments or by other bad actors); or (if they were still trying to plant the nukes or other WMDs, in July 2003) to destroy the network of WMD detectors and foilers that was slowing things up. By fall 2003, with the CIA enraged at the assault on its own agents, and calling for an investigation, they had to give it up--and switch to "Iraqi freedom" as the motive for the war (which is just about the time that that "talking point" was brought forward).

Someone upthread asked, why did they kill Kelly, and not Wilson and Plame? I imagine that Wilson and Plame have lived with that fear. But the critical difference between Plame and Kelly may be that Plame, as a NOC and a high-placed CIA operative, is sworn to a lifetime of keeping government secrets, and Kelly was not. He was a scientist on loan to different agencies (including the UN weapons inspection team). He was not a spy (that we know of). He was already whistleblowing. He was "off the reservation," and could not be trusted, when he promised, under interrogation, not to disclose "government secrets."

Also, she has the protection of the CIA--which, if it kills its own, likes to make that decision itself, I would imagine. And Kelly did not have any such protection. The Blair government and British intel agencies cut him loose. They outed him to the press, and sent him home without protection and apparently without surveillance. And if he WAS under surveillance, they let him bleed to death all night under a tree near his house. (--doesn't add up--none of it adds up).

As for Wilson, he, a) comes under CIA protection as the husband of a NOC, I would imagine, and b) sought the protection of widespread publicity for his dissent. Kelly, too, was the subject of a blazing public controversy in England--one caused by his government's deliberate outing of him to the press. He did not seek publicity. In fact, he backed down somewhat under the kleig lights. It may have been his fatal mistake, allowing the "many dark actors playing games"* around him to spin a web of deceit around his assassination. If he had stuck to his allegation 100% (re: the "sexed up" prewar intel--which turned out, of course, to be 100% true), and had not tried to backpedal a bit, and get himself out of the way of the Blairites' pointed guns, his murder might have been significantly more difficult to cover up, and the plan to kill him abandoned. It also may be a measure of the how dangerous he was to the Bushites/Blairites that they had him killed in the midst of the publicity. One more thought: Kelly's murder may have saved the Wilson's. Three WMD-related murders in one week was too much to cover up.

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*(On the day he died, Kelly wrote an email to none other than Judith Miller--an old colleague of his--in which he expressed concern about the "many dark actors playing games." She had emailed him, stating that a "fan" of his had told her that he did well in the hearing that week (note: by all accounts, except this one, he did NOT do well--he was severely stressed during the parliamentary hearing at which he backpedaled on his whistleblowing accusations). He wrote back to her that he would know more by the end of the week, and that there were "many dark actors playing games." He added "thank you for your friendship and support at this time." I've recently begun to wonder if that was an ironical tag. Did he suspect her of being one of the "dark actors"? Of how he got outed to his bosses? His emails to other friends of his that day were upbeat and forward-looking--about his daughter's upcoming wedding, and plans to return to Iraq. He may have been worried about "dark actors," but he was not suicidal. He thought the storm had blown over.) (Note: Miller had used him as a major quoted source in her book "Germs" about bioweapons, published just after 9/11.)

*(Notably, Miller has refused to disclose the OTHER topics of conversation between her and Libby (besides Wilson/Plame and the NIE). Fitzgerald had to agree to this, to get her testimony against Libby on his perjury/obstruction. A week after her first conversation with Libby (mid-June) about Wilson/Plame and the NIE, Kelly was outed to his bosses (as the BBC whistleblower)--initiating the train of events that led to his death several weeks later (three days after Plame was outed). And the other thing that Miller has been secretive about is the "dark actors" email itself. She wrote the NYT news obit on Kelly's death, and did not disclose this email, or her close connection to the subject of the article. It was his family who later disclosed the email.)

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So--does Fitzgerald suspect or know that there is something much worse behind the Plame/B-J outingS, beyond Cheney and the political coverup, that has caused him to grant immunity to the actual outers (political operatives), and to be digging deeper into this onion, in his stated purpose of understanding WHY these outings occurred? And is it this--that the Niger forgeries were just Part 1 of a yet more nefarious scheme to plant the weapons--a scheme hatched out of the Pentagon, by Donald Rumsfeld, that Cheney is now covering up?

Dunno. And Rumsfeld name hasn't come up at all, so far, in this case (that I know of). Fitzgerald appears to be building a conspiracy case against Cheney. But when you add up all the people whom Fitzgerald has NOT indicted--and the lack of indictments on the outing crime itself (despite a lot of evidence against certain people, just in the available info)--you have to wonder if he isn't trying to go deeper. The non-indictments (so far) could be part of the strategy of nailing Cheney for conspiracy. But the WHY of that conspiracy is still not known, except on a superficial level (effort to silence dissent--political motive).

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Originally posted by Peace Patriot in General Discussion
Thu Feb 08th 2007, 01:52 PM
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