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Posted by RoyGBiv in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue Dec 15th 2009, 10:33 PM

I'll attempt a brief, reasoned reply.

Reaching out requires an open hand in return. Understanding your outrage and the way you express it requires you to understand someone else's and the way they do. That's not happening. I do not place blame on any particular side. (I think we have many "sides" here.) But fault is out there, and it rests with most of us.

We have seen many attempts at reasonable discourse from those with several kinds of perspectives on the issues that are facing us as a party, but currently those attempts are quickly being overwhelmed by a tumultuous chorus of, frankly, profane, childish nonsense if not ignored entirely. Intellectual dishonesty is rampant. The non-sequitur rules the day.

I understand how angry people are. I understand how angry *all* people are, not just those with a specific ideological bent or a particularly sacred issue. But anger does not justify the brutal and often dishonest rhetoric that seeks to do nothing but insult a person whom you do not know and may not understand. If I point out an error in your reasoning, particularly an error based on an objective fact, your anger does not justify a stream of denial, much less profane insults. We see a lot of that, from all sides of all issues and have for a long time, but lately, the amperage has gone way past eleven.

So, yes, I agree with your basic premise, but the "angry and disappointed" need to offer something too, to wit the possibility that the individuals attempting to reach out might just have the same goal in mind as they do, yet have a different opinion on the best way to get there. The group to whom you refer needs to understand that another group may be just as angry and disappointed, but may choose to express it differently. All individuals involved need to understand that "fuck you" never won an election, nor a cause, no matter how much justified anger or disappointment was behind it.

Venting is fine, but take it out on the people that really deserve it.

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