In fact, the only math thread put up by a Clinton supporter was soundly debunked as flummery.

There is nothing fuzzy about the reality of 408 PD's in the remaining contests.

There is nothing fuzzy about the reality of 1627 being the majority of the total 3253 PD's.

There is nothing fuzzy about the reality of Obama needing just 136 more -- that's 33% of 408 -- to win the majority of PD's.

There is nothing fuzzy about the reality of Clinton needing 291 more -- that's 71% of 408 -- to win the majority of PD's.

The only faulty assumption would be that she has a snowball's chance in hell of getting 71% in the rest of the races.

If the more likely scenario of a rough 50-50 split occurs in the remaining races, Obama will need only one third of the remaining super delegates to hit 2025. As of this morning Clinton has 256 to Obama's 234, with 304 still undeclared. Do you really think that he will have any trouble getting 100 of these to declare for him? Because that is the only assumption that Obama supporters make.