Latest Threads
Latest
Greatest Threads
Greatest
Lobby
Lobby
Journals
Journals
Search
Search
Options
Options
Help
Help
Login
Login
Home » Discuss » Journals » Time for change » Read entry Donate to DU
Advertise Liberally! The Liberal Blog Advertising Network
Advertise on more than 70 progressive blogs!
Time for change's Journal
Posted by Time for change in General Discussion
Tue Jun 02nd 2009, 11:01 PM
This post is my no means meant to be a thorough discussion of the subject indicated in the above title. Rather, it focuses mostly on my own personal observations and experiences. But I know that many others have encountered similar problems, so perhaps some will find it useful.

Like most other DUers who have posted a lot and offered their opinions on controversial subjects, I have been subjected to my share of flaming. There is one particular type of post in which I have most encountered this problem: those in which I have disputed the “official” versions of various historical events. Since that is the type of post in which I have most frequently encountered incivility, I will begin with that:


My problem with incivility encountered on DU

The phenomenon that I’m talking about is where people who disagree with my ideas, rather than merely express their disagreement, feel it necessary to throw in insults along with their disagreement. Sometimes these people simply respond with insults, with nothing else to go along with them. Those are relatively easy to handle. I either point out DU rules to them, or I ignore them.

Other people include substantive arguments along with their insults and arrogant assertions. Sometimes those arguments are of such a nature as to indicate that the poster has a somewhat high degree of intelligence.

Those are the most difficult for me to deal with. The arguments may be of such quality that, if not for the insults, they would be well worth responding to in a constructive manner. But because of the insults, my first inclination is to respond in kind, by hurling back insults at them. I believe that generally that is not a constructive way to respond. But sometimes my anger gets the best of me, and I do it anyhow.

Another alternative, which I have also tried, is to respond with my own counter-arguments. In some cases that is easy, if I happen to be aware of a good one off the top my head. At the other extreme, a reasonable counter-argument may require a great deal of research and a great deal of time.

But the problem with responding with a good counter-argument to these people is that that any reasonable response is highly unlikely to be fruitful. If somebody is willing to start off an argument with insults, then how likely is it that a counter-response, no matter how well-reasoned, will elicit anything in return but another insult? I have concluded from experience that the chances of that happening are very small. And furthermore, in situations like this I’m so focused on the insults that it’s hard for me to think productively about real arguments.

The dilemma is this: If we refuse to respond, that may give the impression (to third parties) that we are conceding the argument. Yet why should we devote a lot of time to an effort that is almost certain to result in nothing but a spiraling flame war? That is a gross waste of time. Not wanting to retreat, and at the same time not wanting to waste my time on a fruitless effort, I have often tried some middle course whereby I respond with a counter-argument without putting in the time required to develop one that might otherwise be warranted if I was dealing with a reasonable and civil person. But I have found this middle course to result in the worst of both worlds, in that my time is wasted, I get my blood boiling, and I elicit an even more venomous response from the other poster.


Some examples

To clarify what I’m talking about, I’ll give some examples of responses I’ve received from these people:

In response to a post in which I discuss the efforts towards peace made by President Kennedy in the face of intense pressure from the war hawks who filled his military and CIA (and in which I don’t even offer an opinion on how he was assassinated), I received this:

... As this OP confirms, there is no end to the unfounded and unprovable paranoia and tinfoil that some people choose to believe, said paranoia offered without a scintilla of what would constitute proof outside of an elementary school playground.

Why be forced to prove what you can simply assert when so many are gullible enough to follow your lead and heap praise upon your "truth telling" lunacy?

In response to a post in which I defined “conspiracy theorist” as anyone who seriously questions the official government or societal view of reality, I got this:

A "conspiracy theorist" is someone with a near-religious belief in highly implausible conspiracy theories, for no particularly good reason. They believe that all the evidence we have was faked, that all the "real" evidence was covered up, and that anyone who says differently is either uninformed or "in on it" somehow. That's not a "theory"; it's a closed feed-back loop. Since you started with a bad self-definition, your "anti-conspiracy theory" analysis is kinda pointless.

In response to a post in which I say that I will respond to the poster’s criticism, but “that may take a little time because there's a lot of information there. But I'll get back to you”, he responds:

Run, run, run n/t

At a point later in the discussion, in response to my question to the same person, “So you’re relying on the words of Bush and Cheney?” I received this:

The same fucking tactics of every other CT advocate here. Man, it doesn't take much to scratch the surface and get the same old tired bullshit. How disappointing…

Apology rescinded, Time for change. There was a hell of a lot more there besides Bush and Cheney (which may have been true, but when I got to the point where Bush and Cheney’s words were part of his argument, I figured that that was enough to respond to), and anyone who reads my post knows that. You are not arguing in good faith. You are pushing bullshit and you won't listen to reason…

(Adds a couple of paragraphs of actual argument, mixed with “fucking BULLSHIT”. And then)

You get nothing more but mockery from me, Time for change, because that's all you deserve on this issue. In my experience, you push the work of a snake oil salesman and defend him. You evade, you misquote, you distract. You promise to investigate issues and then you keep running…


How to respond to such incivility

As I said above, I’ve responded in many unfruitful ways to these attacks, including acting like them (returning the insults), trying to respond with constructive argument, or trying to find some middle ground between those two extremes. It is rare that any of that works out well. Here is what I think would be an appropriate response to this kind of thing:

Your hostility and insults are noted, and they don’t deserve a response. But I’ll say this one time: Since you are unable or unwilling to discuss your disagreement with me in civil terms, then there appears to be little or no chance that we could have a productive discussion about it. To try to do that would be a great waste of my time and effort. I’ll alert the moderators about your post and hope they handle it as I believe they should. But I won’t respond to you any more.


On the need to discuss controversial issues

When after carrying on a flame war with these people for a while I finally respond to them with something similar to what I proposed above, of course I just get more insults, especially to the effect that since I refuse to discuss it further with them, that means that (to quote a recent response) “I have no doubt that you (referring to me) don't give a flying f*ck as to what the truth is…”.

But that’s not true. I really do care what the truth is. It is true that after reading five and a half books on the JFK assassination, for example, that my mind is pretty much made up on some basic aspects of the case. But I still would like to know more about it, and I do try to keep an open mind on anything that might contradict my views. And I appreciate a good argument. But not when it’s laced with insults. Some people have the patience or temperament for that, I realize. But I don’t.

On the other hand, if someone disagrees with my point of view on a very important manner and is willing to discuss it in a civil manner, I’m more than willing. The best example I have of that is an argument I entered into with two DUers in early 2005 regarding the 2004 presidential election. Because of the largest exit poll discrepancy in a presidential race in U.S. history, combined with electronic black box voting machines and my opinion of George Bush and his cronies, I believed that the election was stolen by means of electronic vote switching. In fact, I did an analysis which I believe lent credence to that proposition.

But these two DUers believed otherwise, and we argued about it. I ended up spending literally hundreds of hours and exchanging possibly thousands of private e-mails with them on the subject. And as far as I recall, we never found it necessary to insult each other about our disagreement.

It was a productive exchange. In the end they led me to believe that electronic vote switching probably had a lot less to do with the 2004 election results than I had originally thought, at least in Ohio (Ohio used very few electronic voting machines in 2004, but Florida is another story), where the election was most clearly decided in the Electoral College. But at the same time, additional avenues of research led me to the conclusion that the presidential election in Ohio was probably decided instead by massive illegal electronic purging of voters. I believe that my two friends at least partially agreed with that conclusion – at least they didn’t express disagreement with it. This was really an ironic twist because illegal purging of voters wouldn’t be reflected in an exit poll discrepancy, since those who went to the polls on Election Day only to find out that they had been purged of their right to vote wouldn’t have been interviewed for an exit poll… presumably.

Anyhow, in the run-up to the 2008 election I posted information on DU, warning of the need to guard against a repeat of the massive voter purging of 2004.


On the need to avoid insulting people

I think that insulting people is generally bad for at least two reasons. First, it cuts off the possibility (or at least the likelihood) of productive discussion. And secondly, I generally don’t see any reason to insult someone because they disagree with me.

Take abortion, for example. I believe that abortion should be legal, primarily because I believe that people should have the right to do what they want as long as they don’t interfere with other peoples’ rights. That belief is magnified by the fact that criminalizing abortion leads to women putting their lives in danger when they feel the need to seek illegal, dangerous abortions. Also important is the fact that I feel little or no empathy for fetuses. I suppose that the reason for that is that I don’t believe they have thoughts or consciousness. I’m not proud to say that I feel little or no empathy for them, but it’s a fact.

In a recent post I had some harsh words to say about the so-called “pro-life” movement:

As part of a political movement that is so anti-life in so many other ways, it makes no sense unless seen as a mindless act of obedience to authority figures – authority figures who profit from war and many other anti-life policies. Such a political movement has to throw in something to make their followers feel self-righteous. The so-called “pro-life” movement is that something, and it costs the leaders of the movement nothing, while supplying them with minions to help them achieve their goals.

Nevertheless, my beliefs on this matter don’t preclude me from believing that at least some people are “pro-life” out of a sincere desire to protect unborn fetuses. In fact, I believe that my sister-in-law and at least two of her three daughters appear to fall into that category. And I have never had the slightest desire to insult them over their beliefs on this issue. Nor have I ever insulted any of my fellow DUers over this issue.


Some final comments

Admittedly there can be a fine line on this issue. I have insulted people in my DU posts in two circumstances. First, I have had some very harsh things – actually insults – to say about right wingers, as part of a political movement. In this case I’m not talking about fellow DUers, but rather about the opposition political movement. My insults in those cases are aimed at ideologies and behaviors that I consider to be terribly destructive to our country and the world. I do name names sometimes (for example, Bush, Cheney). Maybe I go too far sometimes, but I find it difficult to talk about such people in less than harsh terms.

I also sometimes return insults with insults to fellow DUers. I do that usually not out of any reasoned thought process, but simply as a knee-jerk response to being insulted. I don’t believe I should do that, and I’ll try harder not to do it in the future.

I think that insulting fellow DUers has no useful place on DU. We come to DU to have constructive discussions with other people, to learn, and to get emotional support. What good does it do to insult our fellow DUers, even if we strongly disagree with them or if we suspect that they’re trolls? We can offer our opinions on things, even offer constructive criticism without insulting people. Insulting our fellow DUers, while perhaps working for us as a means of releasing our pent-up hostilities or hatreds, serves mainly to cut off discussion and create bad feelings between us.

Discuss (86 comments) | Recommend (+51 votes)
U.S. Democracy in Crisis
Time for change


The Democratic Underground was born on one of the worst days in U.S history – The day that the worst President in U.S. history took office.

Now, here we are 8 years later, and we’ve managed to remove that cancer from our nation and replace it with something much better. Notwithstanding my many ambivalent feelings towards President Obama, I have no doubt that he will be infinitely better for our country than his predecessor.

Yet despite that, our country has been terribly scarred from the events of the past eight years, and it continues to suffer from all of the root problems that brought us the worst President in our history in 2000 and 2004. Therefore, it is worth taking a look at the root problems that brought us to this sorry state of affairs.


MAJOR IMPEDIMENTS TO DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES

One thing that we must keep in mind when considering our current problems is that they are not new. They were greatly exacerbated by eight years of Bush administration misrule, but they did not start with George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.


Money in politics

All but the most naïve of the American citizenry know that the wealthy and powerful in our country routinely influence our local and national elections through huge campaign contributions. And they also know that they are generally well rewarded for their “contributions”. And they also know that bribery is presumably against the law in our country. Yet, on the rare occasion that our politicians are actually accused of bribery, our news media makes a great big deal over it, as if bribery is actually a rare event in American politics.

The end result is that a great many of our politicians do everything they can to make their wealthiest constituents happy with them, at the expense of everyone else. They do that with the knowledge that the voters they lose in doing so will be more than compensated for by the disinformation that will be paid for by their wealthiest constituents. I discuss this situation in more detail here, here, and here.

There are a few dots to connect here, but any reasonable assessment of American politics tells us that bribery is routinely used to buy and sell elections in our country. So routine is it that it is actually built into our system and legalized. But that fact is never overtly spoken of. To do so would imply that our system of government is as much or more an aristocracy than it is a democracy.

Bill Moyers, in his book “Moyers on Democracy”, explains the situation bluntly:

We have lost the ability to call the most basic transaction by its right name. If a baseball player stepping up to home plate were to lean over and hand the umpire a wad of bills before he called the pitch, we’d call that a bribe. But when a real estate developer buys his way into the White House and gets a favorable government ruling that wouldn’t be available to you or me, what do we call that? A “campaign contribution”.

Let’s call it what it is: a bribe.

The legality of contributing money to political candidates, with the implicit (though not explicit) understanding that that money will buy political favoritism, has been defended by both our courts and our Congress by sanctimoniously pointing to the free speech provisions in the First Amendment to our Constitution and claiming that money is speech. But the absurdity of that contention should be obvious to anyone with some primary school education. Speech is of value from a political standpoint (or any other standpoint) only when it is heard. But if one billionaire has one thousand times as much opportunity to speak through a medium which reaches millions than several thousand other people added together, the speech of that one billionaire will drown out the speech of most other people, thereby interfering with their right to free speech.


Election fraud

Electronic vote switching with DRE (direct-recording electronic) machines poses a great danger to the integrity of our election system – by virtue of its ability to switch a voter’s vote without being noticed by the voter. In other words, someone tries to vote for John Kerry, and the machine registers a vote for George Bush instead. What makes matters worse is that many or most of these machines don’t even produce a piece of paper with the vote on it, which can then later be used for a recount. So, if fraud is suspected there is no recourse. And worse yet is the fact that most of these machines use proprietary (secret) code to determine who the voter voted for.

We know for a fact that vote-switching occurred in the 2004 election. One study, based on voter reports to the national Electronic Incident Reporting System (EIRS), showed that vote switching incidents favored Bush over Kerry by a ratio of 12 to 1 nationally. A similar study showed that these vote switching incidents that favored Bush were 9 times as common in the heavily contested “swing states” than in non-swing states. To make the point that the EIRS reports represent only a small fraction of actual Election Day problems, an investigation by the Washington Post identified about 25 electronic voting machines in Youngstown, Mahoning County, Ohio, that were said to have been switching votes all day long. Yet only eight incidents of this nature from Mahoning County (all in favor of Bush) were reported to EIRS that day.

Clint Curtis, a computer programmer working in Florida prior to the 2004 election, testified before the Democratic staff of the House Judiciary Committee that he was requested in 2000 by his boss (at the request of a high level Republican operative, Tom Feeney) to “develop a prototype of a voting program that could alter the vote tabulation in an election and be undetectable”. Curtis’ testimony was followed by the death of Raymond Lemme, who while investigating Curtis’ allegations was found dead in a Georgia hotel room, just a couple weeks after telling Curtis that he had traced the corruption “all the way to the top”,

Another type of election fraud is the illegal purging of registered voters from the voter rolls. Like vote switching, the increasing computerization of voter registration is no doubt making it much easier to perpetrate this type of fraud on a mass basis.

This article describes a great deal of evidence that voter registration fraud played a major role in the 2004 presidential election, and in fact was probably the deciding factor in Ohio, which gave George Bush his electoral victory. Similarly, although the 2000 presidential election was stolen by a variety of means, voter registration fraud was quantitatively the most important method used. In 2000, the Florida Governor’s office used a computer program to purge tens of thousands of mostly black and Democratic voters.

There are many other means of election fraud that have been used in our country to destabilize our democracy. I discuss this issue in more detail, along with means for preventing election fraud, in this post.


Our corporate news media

If cash donated to their political campaigns is not enough to carry them through to victory, and if election fraud doesn’t happen to play a significant role, the corporate news media serves as another valuable tool for those seeking to sabotage our democracy. This problem overlaps with the role of money in politics, since those who own and control the corporate media are uniformly wealthy, and since it was their money that led to the acts that enabled our corporate media to become what it is today – Ronald Reagan’s veto of Democratic legislation to enforce the Fairness Doctrine in 1987, and the Telecommunications Act of 1996. This legislation allowed the monopoly consolidation of our news media to the point where today it is controlled by a very small number of extremely wealthy individuals.

Several excellent books have been written about the extent to which wealthy corporate interests control our news media today. I would highly recommend “Lapdogs – How the Press rolled Over for Bush”, by Eric Boehlert, “What Liberal Media – The Truth About BIAS and the News”, by Eric Alterman, and “Into the Buzzsaw – The Myth of a Free Press”, edited by Kristina Borjesson. And I have ranted about pseudo-journalists such as Tim Russert, who have made a largely successful, but hypocritical effort to appear unbiased to their viewers.

The bottom line, as Bill Moyers points out, is that the protection offered us by our First Amendment is based on the assumption of a separation of our government and a free press, which is supposed to protect us from government abuses. Moyers wrote this during the Bush administration:

What would happen, however, if the contending giants of big government and big publishing and broadcasting ever joined hands, ever saw eye to eye in putting the public's need for news second to free-market economics? That's exactly what's happening now under the ideological banner of "deregulation". Giant media conglomerates that our founders could not possibly have envisioned are finding common cause with an imperial state in a betrothal certain to produce not the sons and daughters of liberty but the very kind of bastards that issued from the old arranged marriage of church and state.

Consider the situation. Never has there been an administration so disciplined in secrecy, so precisely in lockstep in keeping information from the people at large and -- in defiance of the Constitution -- from their representatives in Congress. Never has the powerful media oligopoly ... been so unabashed in reaching like Caesar for still more wealth and power. Never have hand and glove fitted together so comfortably to manipulate free political debate, sow contempt for the idea of government itself, and trivialize the peoples' need to know.


Secrecy in government

Democracy suffers terribly when a nation’s citizens are uninformed – especially when they are uninformed with respect to the actions and motivations of their own government. If we don’t know what our government is doing, then how can we be expected to vote them out when they do something that we would consider deeply immoral had we known about it?

Consider war for example. If Americans understood the real motivations for its nation’s wars, they would probably be much more likely to strenuously object to those wars. That would make war much less politically feasible, and our country would therefore be led into war much less frequently than it has been in the past.

That is why I so hate the “national security” excuse for withholding information from us, the American people – which has become so routine that it is willingly or passively accepted by the good majority of Americans. I very much doubt that the “national security” excuse for withholding information from the American people has anything to do with national security more than 5% of the time. Rather, the reason for withholding such information from us is almost always something totally different. It is to blind us to the real reasons for war or other nefarious acts, so that we will accept them and willingly support or even risk our lives in their cause.


Rampant U.S. nationalism and the GAME

Two months ago I wrote a DU post that I titled “The GAME”, which I began by discussing “Unmentionable things in U.S. politics” – including such things as the stealing of a U.S. presidential election, calling American military or covert actions immoral rather than merely “misguided”, and imputing bad intentions rather than mere incompetence to a U.S. president.

I find this to be terribly repressive, not because I personally can’t mention these things, but because our elected representatives are under tremendous pressure not to discuss them. We elect them to represent us and our nation, and except for some rare courageous exceptions such as Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, and Robert Wexler, they refuse to even talk about some of our very most important issues.

It has occurred to me that this provides the backdrop for a huge GAME that has been foisted upon us. A prerequisite of the GAME is to create an alternate reality that must be believed by a critical mass of people in order for the GAME to proceed. Why is that necessary? I believe it’s necessary because the reality is so terrible that if enough people consciously recognized it they would rise up and simply refuse to play the GAME.

Although the GAME’s masters set the rules, there are two related character traits of many Americans that cause them to play along: Rampant nationalism and a propensity for denial. Rampant nationalism is the attitude that our country is inherently better than any other country – so much so that it can do no wrong. This attitude is drummed into the American people from the time that most of us learn how to talk. We are made to feel that to believe or speak otherwise demonstrates a dangerous lack of “patriotism”, which makes us deserving of being shunned – or worse.

The other character trait that persuades too many Americans to play the GAME is denial. Believing terrible things about one’s country can be very painful. Accepting reality as it is, rather than as one would like it to be, can be very painful. To make this point, in a recent post titled “12 Things that Never Happened in American History”, I discuss the following official stories that we have been told (or not told):

The U.S. is not an imperialist country; FDR’s New Deal was not instrumental in ending the Great Depression; the Cold War was just about fighting totalitarian Communism; JFK was assassinated by a lone gunman; bribery is infrequent in American politics; Iran-Contra was not a criminal abuse of presidential power; U.S. presidential elections cannot be stolen; Bush and Cheney did everything they could to protect us against the 9/11 attacks; the Bush administration’s crimes are not serious enough to warrant impeachment or prosecution; and, we’re barely told about our nation’s killing of more than a million Iraqi civilians, the October Surprise, or Operation Northwoods.


CONSEQUENCES

These impediments to democracy work together to surrender great amounts of power into the hands of a small number of elites, who use that power in the cause of increasing their wealth and power at the expense of everyone else. It is a vicious cycle that is very difficult to break. Here are some of the major tragic consequences.


Rampant militarism and illegal aggression against sovereign nations

We are so often told how good and pure our nation and its people are that only a minority of Americans are aware of the extent of our many illegal and immoral activities. Many or most who aren’t aware of these activities would be shocked to learn about them and quite resistant to accepting that information as the truth.

In myriad instances we have overthrown or assisted in the overthrow of sovereign nations. In the good majority of these instances we have substituted a repressive right wing government for one that was much more responsive to the needs and desires of the nation’s citizenry. Sometimes genocide was used to accomplish our goals. The purpose of these activities has most often been to create a government that is friendlier to the desires of American businesses or corporations – though we always have some sort of rationalization for our actions.

In “Excuses for War” I discuss many of the phony excuses that the United States government has used to lead us into war, including its Indian wars, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, and the Vietnam War.

In “The Roots and Consequences of U.S. Overseas Imperialism” I note or discuss our covert and overt illegal and immoral overthrowing of the sovereign nations of Hawaii (1893), Cuba (1898), Puerto Rico (1898), the Philippines (1899-1902), Nicaragua (1910), Honduras (1911-1912), Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), South Vietnam (1963), Chile (1973), Grenada (1983), Panama (1989), Afghanistan (2001), and Iraq (2003).

In “The Meaning of U.S. Imperialism, Genocide and Militarism” I note U.S. perpetrated genocides, as described in “State of Darkness” by David Model, including our atomic bombing of Japan (1945), those perpetrated against Guatemala (1954), Vietnam (1954-73), Indonesia (1965), Cambodia (1970-75), Laos (1969-74), and East Timor (1975), and our two wars against Iraq.

Other atrocities include our invasion of Cuba in 1961; U.S. Marine invasion of the Dominican Republic in 1965 to put down a rebellion against their repressive right wing government; U.S. military support of Haitian tyrant and mass murderer, Francois Duvalier; and numerous brutal interventions in several Latin American and African nations.


Massive Income and wealth inequality

Inequality of wealth in the United States is truly astounding – and it is increasing at a fast rate. In the United States in 2001, 1% of the population controlled 38% of the wealth, whereas the bottom 40% owned just 1%. That means that, on average, individuals in the top 1% owned about 1,500 times more wealth than individuals in the bottom 40%.

The rising level of income inequality in our country recently exceeded the point where it stood just prior to the stock market crash of 1929, which led to the worst depression in U.S. history. There are many who see a connection between the income inequality preceding that depression and our current situation. This graph, which plots income inequality measured as the ratio between the average income of the top 0.01% of U.S. families compared to the bottom 90%, over time, makes that point.

I discuss the subject of income and wealth inequality here, here, and here.


The loss of the rule of law

During the Bush Presidency I often argued that he should be impeached for his many crimes. Now that he can no longer be impeached, I have argued that our Justice Department should prosecute him for those crimes, and if it fails to do so then the International Criminal Court (ICC) should step in.

While Bush was still President, President Obama weighed in against impeachment, saying that impeachment should be reserved for only the most serious crimes. Now that he is President he has thus far given little or no indication that he intends to have his Justice Department prosecute George Bush or any other high level Bush administration official for their crimes. But if widespread torture, an illegal war of aggression, spying on American citizens, suspending of the right of habeas corpus, and numerous other violations of our Constitution don’t constitute serious crimes, then what does?

What would people say if a prosecuting attorney failed to prosecute a rapist and murderer simply because he had high level political connections? Who would accept that? Then why when far more serious crimes are committed by a President of the United States are there so many people who seem to think that it is ok to sit passively by and make no attempt to hold the perpetrators accountable for their crimes?

I’ll tell you why. It’s like I said earlier in this post. Saying that a former U.S. President might be guilty of prosecutable crimes is simply against the rules of the GAME. Given that and the failure to hold the Reagan administration accountable for its Iran-Contra crimes, George Bush and Dick Cheney connected the dots and thought that they might be able to get away with just about anything. Testing that assumption by moving ahead with prosecutions might be politically risky for the Obama administration. The Republican Party would no doubt raise holy hell if there was an attempt to prosecute high level Bush administration officials.

Consequently, we live in country in which, protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, certain people are indeed above the law. That fact, taken together with all of the impediments to democracy discussed in the first part of this post, means that democracy and the rule of law in our country are in grave danger. Indeed, some believe that we narrowly averted a military coup perpetrated by the Bush administration.

The American people and their leaders need to reassess what our country stands for. Is our democracy important enough to take steps to remove the role of money in politics, reform our election system, break up the corporate monopoly on our news media, require government actions to be much more transparent than they now are, and dare to look more objectively at who we are and what we do? Can we give up imperialism and warfare for the sake a world in which nations live and work together to further the cause of peace and justice? Can we make our nation one in which all of its citizens truly have the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? And do our laws apply to all people, not just to those who lack the political influence to avoid them?

If we think that these things are important we have a great deal of work to do, lest our country sinks into a tyranny from which it may never recover.
Profile Information
Time for change
Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your ignore list
DU Donor DU Donor
11473 posts
Member since Thu Dec 2nd 2004
Silver Spring, MD, US
Male
Visitor Tools
Use the tools below to keep track of updates to this Journal.
The Usual Suspects
My Forums
Democratic Underground forums and groups from my "My Forums" list.
Random Journal
Random Journal
 
Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals  |  Campaigns  |  Links  |  Store  |  Donate
About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.