I, too, hope he lives a long, long time. Long enough to have to suffer through years and years and years of trashing, vilification, and the personal heartbreak of seeing everything he stood for and believed in (the sins, the greed, the pampering, the trashing of the Constitution, the me-first philosophy, the piracy, the whole fucking CONservative movement, the ill-gotten gain he set up for himself and all his pals, and his beloved republi-CON party) sent straight to the garbage.

I want him to know how much he's hated. And I want him rendered unable to avoid it. I want him NEVER to be able to get a good night's sleep AGAIN.

Why aren't we hearing any of that anywhere?

Where's OUR "Brooks Brothers riot"? Besides, we have truth and accuracy and the facts on our side, as the phony cobbled-together partisan mob did NOT, while pounding on the windows trying to stop the vote count in Florida in 2000.

WHY, I repeat, WHY does our side NEVER play hardball??????

As though our lives depended on it. Because they DO.

He's a signatory of the PNAC. On its front-page cover letter.

For me, that's all I need to know.

If we DON'T keep close track of this guy, follow his every move, and hound him til we're hoarse, if we let this one slip, if we go back to sleep, if we think it won't make any difference, if we think - oh, he's not so bad - we can live with this 'cause he couldn't possibly be as bad as his fucking fool-ass rat-bastard brother, if we take our eyes off the ball, if we decide to go along to get along with him and his, WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE. With THIS guy, ESPECIALLY.

Sorry to shout, but I'm doing it anyway. It's that important!!! For us here and for us to carry outward to everyone we know and meet. We have to go grassroots, AND viral, on this stealth-schmuck. If he's a bush, he's NO GOOD. And our country CAN'T afford another bush. Not now, not two years from now, not four years from now, not six years from now, not a decade from now, not a LIFETIME from now.

I STILL believe, firmly, in the "taste of their own medicine, see how they like it" school of management of republi-CON assholes. Maybe they should see how it is to be on the receiving end of the bully pulpit for awhile.

For myself, I do NOT see why we have to be so fucking conciliatory to them. Them? THEM of ALL people? THEY are the ones whose utterly fucked world view and policies and jerky, selfish, short-sighted, mean-spirited, greedy, deceitful political philosophy BROUGHT US TO THIS ABYSS. THEY gave us this colossal failure of a "pResident" - shoved him down our throats is more like it - and backed him to the hilt while he lied, stole, cheated, and repeatedly broke the law and violated the Constitution he swore on a Bible to PRESERVE, protect and defend. Just exactly what about the first verb in that trio did you not understand, george you rat-bastard fuckstick? In my mind, ANYONE with an "r" by their name should be told, firmly, to SHUT UP AND GO SIT DOWN OVER THERE IN THE CORNER AND QUIT BELLYACHING AND MAKING TROUBLE. They've HAD their turn. They've HAD it their way. They almost literally held guns to our heads and forced the issue for almost eight years!!!

And look where we are as a result. Look what they've done. Look at the results. Look at the proof that's in the pudding as far as the eye can see - around the whole world, even. It's the track record, stupid. After the track record they assembled over the last two terms, I don't think ANY of them has the right to say PEEP - about ANYTHING. They need to go to the BACK of the line, and STAY there and SHUT THE FUCK UP while we adults take charge once again and start to fix everything they've broken and otherwise royally fucked up. Seems to me they've forfeited ANY opportunity even to BURP without permission from some Democrat. I'm not the least bit interested in ANYTHING that a single one of them has to say about ANYTHING. And the Dems should take that attitude - en masse. Play bad cops so Obama can come along and throw them crumbs every so often and be good cop. Make 'em CRAWL and BEG and SUFFER.

Don't need any more bad karma after bush. Could it be, maybe, that those of us who did NOT vote for bush either time, and tried to stop what he was doing, and tried to warn others, and tried to slow him down if we couldn't stop him outright, and tried to get others to stop him, but had to slog through the years in spite of him anyway, were burning off some old overdue bad karma from some earlier lifetime, or some such thing? Hey, I'm flailing here. Grasping at straws! Give me a break. No other way to explain why else something as spectacularly, even epically calamitous as the bush-2 administration has been allowed to afflict us all. Unless maybe we're talking sheer random Act of God.

Some people in my neighborhood actually do go out and crap their dogs wherever the crap falls - and just leave it there. No idea who it is but there's dog poo out there on somebody's front lawn fairly frequently - and get this: occasionally even ON the sidewalk. YUCK!!! Who on earth is so selfish and inconsiderate that they'll just poo's their dog any-old-where like that? Maybe another republi-CON? I truly regret saying this, but I regret concluding it even more. They've built a political movement based on"IGMFU" (stands for "I Got Mine, F-U"), "who cares what you think?", and not giving a flying fuck about anybody else but yourself. They should be ashamed of themselves! It's common courtesy for Heaven's sake!!! And they're the ones incessantly yammering about Jesus and living by the absolute word of the Bible (did they ever hear of the Sermon on the Mount by that Savior they keep invoking?) and they're the first ones to say I'M an amoral type for the way I lean politically. Blows my mind. And I've been known to pick up somebody else's dog's poo if it's on the neighbors' lawns on either side of us. I'm damned if anyone's gonna think MY dog did that.

To be fair and balanced, I've observed the female half of that couple walking her dog, carrying some sort of plastic bag with her. I'll happily give her that.

It's been TOO long in exile, my brothers and sisters. We're back on top again - where we belong.

I'm sure even if you have to be on duty on the 20th, nobody anywhere will be getting a lot done that day. ANY office with a TV anywhere in it is gonna stop cold because everybody's gonna leave their workstation and go watch history in the making.

I just marvel at these photos. What remarkable images! Let's see - a guy bounding up the steps to a jet with a presidential seal on it - and he's the guy I happened to vote for. A man boarding a jet with that seal - who's a Democrat - a Democrat is president again, thank God! And the nature of the man - the way he changed the timbre of the presidential campaign itself - winning by NOT going negative and mudslinging and bottom-scraping. No cheap tawdry character-assassination from his side. The way he elevated things. Always at ease and of good humor. Blood pressure lowers and boiling subsides when he's around. I read somewhere here that it can be traced back to his upbringing in Hawaii, where the mood tends to be much more mellow. Whatever, after the turbulence and terror and fear-mongering and hate-mongering across the airwaves and treachery and betrayal and loss and dread and threats and intimidation and bankruptcy (of ALL SORTS, not just financial) and never-ending truckloads of shit that avalanched over us all in the past eight years (understandable, 'cause bush, the guy responsible for it all, is a certifiable ASS), we needed nothing less than this.

We needed the kind of change, and the kind of man, that Obama presents. He is a national gear-shifting at a time when it was MOST urgently needed. After all, bush had us stuck in reverse with a brick on the gas pedal while he was off picking his nose somewhere and enjoying the fawning flattery of his sycophantic subordinates, and we were about to zoom bass-ackwards straight over a cliff. The nature of the man - youthful and optimistic with a new outlook and new approach. Oh yeah, and he makes history as the first African-American to win the presidency, too. He embodies the idea that America just might be able to wake up from time to time after a period of extreme recklessness, and do something that reasserts the position we always SHOULD have held in the world community - of leadership, elegance, brains, wisdom, generosity, and exemplary ethics and morals. America's supposed to represent the best of us, that "shining city on a hill" thing, that reason that you really can't overlook - that people risk everything to come here to start new lives. That America with our history of racial and discriminatory strife can take a step this big - makes me proud to be an American again. It's been more than eight years (officially as of December 12th, 2000) that I've felt actual shame.

As I write this, I just saw a breaking news update with video of Obama's motorcade inbound from the airport in Washington. The anchor referred to him as President-Elect Obama. My husband happened to be tuning by Pox Noise at that moment. Even THEY have to concede this, and swallow it for perhaps as long as the next eight years. I felt such joy! It feels as though I've been a hostage for eight years and just heard that negotiations for my release have just been completed, and I see my kidnappers approaching, carrying my clothing and stuff they confiscated when they first broke in eight years ago so I can get dressed to LEAVE. That's how it feels. I'm (at this writing) 16 days away from being released. And it's a lock. An absolute. My kidnappers are stuck - they can't even fudge the date. They HAVE TO let me go.

I'm just filled with delight! This victory is unbelievably sweet! And to see the signals that it's getting closer and closer to absolute undeniable reality is just beyond the beyond!!! I get happier by the day. Sixteen of 'em. And counting...

I was about to post this yesterday on another thread - about freepers whining over Obama's victory. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA - in, well, just SIXTEEN DAYS! I changed my mind and didn't, 'cause I thought it was too mean. But you know what? Fuck it. After being subjected to abuse and mockery, having my car keyed and one of my tires slashed because some knuckledragger didn't like my anti-bush, anti-war, pro-Howard Dean bumper stickers (and MY DAUGHTER was driving it at the time, so they threatened HER life, too), having endured multiple middle-finger salutes (and other rude gestures), put-downs, insults, arrogance, condescension, and murderous threatening looks on the freeway (in which I momentarily feared for my life that this asshole in the big pickup truck in the lane next to me was gonna try to run me off the road - NEVER saw a look like that coming at me before, or since - quite terrifying), FUCK it. I'm posting this. Schadenfreude time, my brothers and sisters. I feel as though I've earned it.

Besides, when I think of what their attitudes, their lies, hate, divisiveness, cruelty, smugness, and the assholes they've forced ont he rest of us and what their assholes have done to this country - well, I think THEY'VE earned it, too.

Starting with an excerpt of an earlier thread (Freepers Furious at imminent Caroline Appointment: "Stupid, incoherent liberal b*tch"
Posted by Roberto1223) - Sorry - I forgot to keep the link:


To: Sub-Driver
This is so incredibly frustrating on so many levels. Not the least of which, is with respect to competency and the suspicious eye (or what should be) of the media.
Despite Sarah Palin's somewhat rough showing with a handful of hostile interviews, she was/is unquestionably more qualified for elected office than Caroline Kennedy. Of course, everyone knows what the MSM reaction was to Gov. Palin. But, there has been ZERO critical comments coming from ANY Big Media outlets with regard to Caroline dubious qualifications to hold such a powerful and important position.

This is going to be a long, long four years. Barack Obama will be able to get away with anything.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2...

calimary:
"This is going to be a long, long four years" - well boo fucking hoo.
Who's crying now?

Like I care.

Actually, I take that back. I DO care. I hope they hurt like hell. And to sub-driver my friend, I hope PRESIDENT Barack Obama - um - let me say that again - PRESIDENT Barack Obama, actually I forgot - PRESIDENT Barack HUSSEIN Obama "gets away" with all kinds of stuff. Because whatever he's up to is going to be GOOD for our country after eight years of absolute near-Biblical plagues. And the freepers can just eat shit. For at least a long, long EIGHT years.

And you know what else? Senator Caroline Kennedy? If they're hating it, I figure there must be something GREAT about it. So let it be written, so let it be done. And sub-driver, you and your friends can just go get bent.

Sorry, just had to stick it in and twist it. After the eight years they've spent doing to us, I don't mind dishing out a little payback. They've MORE than earned it. And it's certainly well-deserved. Back atcha, you UN-American, traitorous, war-criminal-loving schmucks!

I know, I know, I should rise above it. Should be kind and gracious and elegant in victory. After all, that's what Obama's whole thing is about and that's how he behaved throughout the campaign - no mudwrestling whatsoever. He rose above it from the beginning. And I'll get there. Maybe even a few hours from now. But not at this moment. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it. A little mortification is good for the soul - especially in their case (assuming they even have any).

There's an older couple in our neighborhood whom I met at the annual block party up at the top of our block last September. They were charming until the subject turned to politics. I commented on how shocked and insulted I felt by the meanness voiced during the republi-CON convention by the likes of rudy giuliani and the Tundra Tart, and how cruel their remarks were about community organizers. And this couple immediately went into this AWFUL mode - suddenly, they put their Mean on. They started snickering loudly and sneering and the woman had to hold her hand up in front of her mouth as she guffawed and the man sort of fell toward her as they propped each other up, laughing. I couldn't help it - I took offense. I have friends who are community organizers. I love what they do and how they help people - sometimes people in real and desperate need. They do it in many cases voluntarily, some paid independently of any tax money. And especially now with times as tough as they've become across this country, the work of community organizers becomes more critical and vital than ever! Especially as government funds and programs that were already shrinking are drying up and disappearing completely. Community organizers make up the only safety net we've got left, in increasing numbers of cases. They really help people, dammit! I've even dabbled in it myself on a very small scale. And I took offense. And they laughed and scoffed at me.

I walk my dog around the neighborhood several times a day - taking the long route frequently (when I suspect she needs to poo - and yes I always clean it up). The longer circuit takes me past the house where that couple lives. And every time I pass it, I chuckle to myself and quietly say "...20 days." The next evening it'd be "...19 days." Last night it was "...18 days." Tonight, before midnight when I took the dog out, it was "...17 days." And if I take the dog out again now that it's after midnight pacific time, it'll be "...SIXTEEN days!" With a little wave and chuckle as I stroll by.

And it gives me TREMENDOUS pleasure. As I pass their house, I delight myself in thinking "a community organizer just cleaned your guy's clock." And I think that to myself every time I see the woman walking her dog. I'm always nice and pleasant and like-it-never-happened (she certainly is quite cordial and well-behaved these days, too - maybe she's had a chastening of her own?). But YOU know what I'm thinking.

THERE! Thanks for putting up with me!

Done!




I think.

Should be bookmarked by everybody who wants to win an argument with a knuckledragger.

And it's good to get a reminder of this from time to time, as we liberals are constantly battered and beaten and smeared and trash-talked by arrogant, entitlement-addicted CONs. This is who we are, what we are, and why we are.

I'm trying to remember where I heard or read this - maybe from some Thom Hartmann show perhaps - wherein I think it was he who quoted some author or columnist as saying conservatism is a fancy-named rationale for selfishness. Or something to that effect. I just most clearly remember the key word: "selfishness." Or where I come from, IGMFU (stands for "I Got Mine, F-U").

MANY reasons why he deserves it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

And make sure you see this one, too (Add Up the Damage - by Bob Herbert of the NYTimes):

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/opinion/...

It's EXTREMELY important that we promote and spread all these truths about george w. bush. We're up against a stubborn, willfully stupid, narrow-minded, short-sighted, selfish, arrogant, and deeply deceitful army of apologists and spinners and excuse-makers for him, trying to rehabilitate his "legacy" with a truckload of turds (with or without the blossom). BTW - another reason they're so feverishly trying to rewrite history is because so many of their own names are attached to every debacle. If he goes down, they go down with him, and they know it. And heaven forbid they ever admit they were wrong, or that they allowed themselves to be sold a bill of goods, or were warned and ignored it - therefore were made into chumps for the whole world to see (and the proof is CERTAINLY in the pudding after eight years of this shit). Nobody wants to be caught - or to have to admit that they've been - worshipping a false god.

"...but are the right people leaving?"

The answer is a big fat NO!!!!!

The corporate butchers and pirates just change seats, while the REAL talent gets fired again and again and again.

I subscribe to this website called LARadio.com - that provides news and gossip about the Los Angeles radio market and people, past and present, and it's just been an ongoing cavalcade of layoffs and consolidations and musical chairs for the asshole pirate cheapskate executives, who, as Tina Brown correctly points out, care about NOTHING but the next quarterly earnings and the next round of ratings. NOBODY thinks longterm. NOBODY wants to make any sort of commitment to grow their morning talent or their afternoon drive person or their weekends or nights or middays or ANYTHING. There's no interest in giving a jock or some new programmer time to find an audience or build any track record. And I have SO many friends now who are out of work, especially in their 40's and 50's, after years of excellent service, consistently good ratings, and widespread popularity in the market. One of my friends was the female partner of a morning show. TWENTY TWO YEARS she put in with the guy with whom she shared morning drive. Suddenly, they just canned her with no warning. The guy limped on as a solo act for months until "management" (or should that be MISmanagement) brought in a new woman, younger and of course willing to work for less. No experience in the market, no track record to speak of, but young and cute and willing to work for a fraction of my friend's salary. And our "two" "all news" stations have been consolidated, now owned by the same company - that also owns maybe eight or so other big radio stations in this market. Hell, I've lost track by now with the buying and selling and acquiring and downsizing - it just sucks. And then they just can't figure out why their ratings aren't getting any better - when half the staff that listeners had befriended and come to trust over at least a couple of decades if not more - GONE. Veterans all. Award-winners. With high community profiles and years of hands-on knowledge of the market and visibility everywhere. GONE.

DAMN those MISmanagement fuckers. Just DAMN them. Straight to hell where all their ratings are going. All they care about is cheap, cheaper, and cheapest. And ALWAYS at the expense of the staff. When I was working at the A.P., they pleaded poverty NONSTOP, but somehow they ALWAYS were able to find money for more equipment. NEVER for staff, either in reasonable raises or added personnel. It was always about cutting back, making fewer people do more work, pinching on you everywhere, getting the cheaper insurance program that didn't cover as much. It felt like being eaten by ants. I think the next round of firings at ALL of these stations and networks oughta start AT THE TOP.

all "rugged" and macho and bold and gutsy and young and virile and hot et al. They've pumped so much of their time, energy, and resources, trying to manage and manipulate public opinion to make these vehicles more desirable and appetizing. We always had a joke around my house, concerning some of those commercials, which amounted to "buy this car and you can fuck this girl!"

I often wonder if the automakers and the drug companies and the insurance companies and so forth would reduce their frickin' advertising and redirect some of that money toward making their products more affordable, consumers would be FAR better served.

NEVER forget - even after he's gone:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

WE need to be the keepers of the truth, and the conscience of the country.

I finally stopped at 17 pages because otherwise, I knew it'd just keep going and keep going and keep going, especially since there are CERTAINLY tons more affronts, crimes, and sins that we haven't yet uncovered. I suspect those will continue to roll out, the farther away we move from this awful period in American history. I also suspect that there will be more mea culpas, whistle-blowings, and other confessionals that start dripping out as though from a leaky levee. Once some of the underlings finally "get it" - that these people are out of power after January 20th and no longer able to do much, I'll bet they'll be more forthcoming (well, unless cheney picks up the phone and calls eric prince of Blackwater, or bush summons rove or baker to do some dirty work). Some may even come forward in deals to protect themselves from future prosecution.

I fear we'll still be unearthing shit from this era FOR YEARS.

Seems to me Mikhail Gorbachev is one of the most under-appreciated world leaders of the last century. None of the much-vaunted reagan initiatives toward world peace and disarmament could have been possible without a receptive partner on the other end. reagan couldn't have gone anywhere without Gorbachev on the other side, willing to play ball. It was a pitcher-catcher team. You needed them BOTH to get anything accomplished. In the rush, I suppose America-centered rush, to avalanche ALL the credit to st. ronnie, many have forgotten the key role Gorbachev played in moving this world forward. Progress of any sort couldn't have happened as long as we had the Old Guard like Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernyenko and the rest of those old farts in power. You needed new blood and a new mindset.

Maybe the parallel here IS Gorbachev-Obama. We've certainly seen the "old guard" swept aside here now. Sometimes the only way to replace the old ways, the old ideas, the old mindset, is to end their era and their power by replacing them with the people who will bring new ways, new ideas, a new mindset - one that's not so grounded in the past.

Granted I'm generalizing rather ridiculously here, but still - symbols carry a lot of weight. And they have power. And influence. And they matter. Gorbachev struck the first blow. NOTHING would have moved anywhere if it hadn't been for him.