After all, not much of anything but Democrats and supporting them can be discussed

here -- right?

And we do need the "broadest democratic discussion and debate" right now. Especially now!


And this is exactly the point ....

whether or not the Democratic Party can be reformed or taken over by true progressives

That's a very limiting way to look at things -- politics of, by, and for Democratic Party.

Think we need that "broadest" discussion of what our other options may be.


After twenty and more years of Koch Bros/DLC how do we find out what's left?

Is Obama what's left?

And what kind of an opiton is it to vote for EITHER of the two corporate parties?


OWS is timely and where we should be going -- no doubt about that!


However, the Democratic Party is now under the control of the Third Way which is even

further to the right than Koch Bros/DLC --

and soon DU will be very seriously involved in raising money for them --

Just before Obama entered the White House, DU passed along $280,000 from DU members to

the Obama which certainly also benefited the DLC and Third Way.

I think there's a lot to think about here -- including the idea of a name change.




A few weeks ago, I happened to catch Jonathan Cowan, Pres. of Third Way on C-span --

Cowan was making clear that the stance/policy of Third Way/Democratic Party is that

"the base of the party is to be ignored."

Further, that "populism, populist discussion is the equivalent of Karl Rove propaganda

of extremism."

Is that really what you want to support in any way?