What if FDR had stuck to fighting the Japanese in the Pacific?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1223257893...

Ah rightwingworld, a separate reality, or better yet a surreality, where 2+2=5.

The thesis from these neotards is that Japan is to Al Qaeda as Germany is to Iraq. Of course that has a few problems, such as Japan and Germany were two world powers in a military alliance fighting to overthrow the established world order in order to rule the planet on their terms, while al qaeda (aka Japan in neotard world) is a gang of violent criminals that do not pose a real existential military threat to any nation, and regardless, there simply was no alliance between al qaeda and Iraq. In fact quite the opposite: Iraq considered jihadist al qaeda type fundamentalist organizations a direct threat to their continued secular hold on power in Iraq. In addition, Iraq (aka Germany in the dementia known as neotardism) unlike Germany of 1941, was not a first rate global military power, nor even a second rate global military power. Iraq in 2003 was not even much of a regional military power. Iraq posed no threat to anyone.

One thing I do admire about neotards is their willingness to continue to prattle absolute horseshit long after the stench has filled the room and the audience has fled. They are persistent.

p.s. these clowns are McCain's foreign policy advisors.

I know that I am one sick twisted individual, full of tinfoilyness, heck my fillings speak to me, but I claim that the latest phase of WWIII is a wag the dog event concocted for the political benefit of the 06 campaign here and I presume also in Israel.

From the shelling of the Gaza beach to right here and now, this has all smelled of deliberate attempts to get something started. But why? How does a big fat war in the Middle East help the rovian mission to salvage 06? At a minimum it divides the Democratic Party, as we have seen right here on DU, between the Israel Can Do No Wrong camp, and us critics of Israeli policy. It also brings back the good old War President theme. Naturally if this leads, as it very well may, to a broader conflict with Iran and Syria, the hope is not only to complete the PNAC plan for the Middle East but also to retain both houses by running a rally round the flag campaign against us Hezbollah loving cheese eating gay atheist flag burning abortionists.

The political road to peace in Iraq requires the withdrawal of US forces and a general amnesty for the insurgent forces in Iraq. There is no other road to peace. Our Democratic leaders in Washington have been advised by the usual beltway idiots to attack the ruling party over the issue of amnesty.

The recent proposal by Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki for a peaceful resolution of the Iraqi crisis contains, at least partially, the two key ingredients mentioned above: the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq and a general amnesty for the insurgent forces. While lacking specifics on either a withdrawal of US forces or exactly what conditions would accompany the general amnesty, this proposal should be given at least conditional support from our leaders and from the antiwar movement.

Instead of conditional support the Democratic Leadership has seized the opportunity to attack the amnesty proposal as essentially treason. In a propaganda barrage worthy of an RNC talking points memo, Democrat after Democrat has lined up to denounce amnesty as unthinkable.

"the idea that they should even consider talking about amnesty for people who have killed people who liberated their country is unconscionable." - Sen Carl Levin (D-MI), sums up the idiocy and emptiness of beltway thinking on this issue. Before accepting what the senator has to say, consider the assumptions behind that statement. Let's start with the phrase "people who liberated their country". Well to accept that as true one has to agree that our invasion and occupation of Iraq was a 'liberation'. I do not accept the truth of that statement, do you? Clearly there are many Iraqis, for example the insurgent forces and their supporters, who do not accept Senator Levin's opinion about the nature of our forces in Iraq.

Now consider the disingenuous use of language in the phrase "people who have killed people". Are we to consider that all of the "people who have killed people" in Iraq are criminal murderers who should always be prosecuted for the crimes they have committed? Or are we to consider only Iraqi people who have killed people for such treatment? The situation in Iraq is a hostile military occupation. Insurgent forces and our own forces are fighting each other in a war. Soldiers are fighting and killing other soldiers, and it is generally accepted that such actions, within the context of a military engagement, are not crimes of murder. The Senator is lying to the American people and should be ashamed of himself.

Democrats are pandering the amnesty issue and progressive Americans should not support this maneuver and should not make common cause with those who would prolong the conflict for political gain, no matter what party they claim to belong to.

The response by the insurgency to the Zarqawi execution and the subsequent unseemly spectacle of pictoral displays and boasting put on by the regime in washington is now clear: the insurgency has escalated the violence and brutality. The deliberate capture torture and execution of our soldiers sends a clear message that the insurgency is not only not defeated, but that it can and will repay our brutality with theirs.

Across Iraq our troops are deployed at similar isolated checkpoints. Every soldier on duty in these vulnerable locations is warily searching for the attack that will consign him to the brutal fate of those three unfortunates. A very bad situation has just gotten worse. Every misunderstanding at those checkpoints is now likely to be very lethal. Haditha, if it was an isolated incident, will cease to be so.

The regime in washington is trapped by its own pigheaded policies. They have no choice but to respond to this latest provocation, and they will respond and the response will be brutal. A bad war with no end in sight is about to drop down another level in the cycle of depravity.

Our opposition party leadership will, as always, choose the safe and timid path here. Afraid to speak up in the wake of this outrage, the leadership will once again lock ranks with the war hawks. We are indeed trapped in Iraq.

You know what? I am damn tired of being told that I should shut up with all my crazy ass conspiracy theories about how a cabal of neocons got together in the 90's to plot the takeover of the US government in order to initiate the military conquest of the planet to establish a permanent american hegemony based on military force. I am told that I should shut up primarily because, while the course of events since 1998 would indeed appear to support just such a theory, I cannot actually prove all the details of this 'tin foil hat conspiracy'. The conspiracy is manifest. The conspirators did not even bother to hide their plan or their intentions.

Oh yes, I cannot prove that they had anything to do with the enabling Reichstags fire of our times: the attack of 9-11, it was just a remarkable coincidence that this event occurred exactly on schedule and was just what their public plans required as a catalyst. No I cannot prove that this was not a coincidence.

Oh yes, I cannot prove that they stole the 2000, 2002, and 2004 elections, and that the theft of the 2000 election was critical to the timetable for the catalytic event that would allow them to actuate their war plans. No I cannot prove that this was not a coincidence.

Like RFKjr I cannot categorically prove that the election of 2004 was stolen in Ohio, and indeed it may all be coincidence that the 2000 election fraud was used to justify HAVA which mandates the use of unverifiable electronic voting systems manufactured solely by corporations that have well documented connections to the Republican Party. All of this may just be coincidence.

I cannot prove that the events of this last month, the disinformation fed into the blogosphere to discredit it and to cause widespread distrust, the timing of the execution of zarqawi that just happened to be concurrent with a bug Rovian PR push to reframe the 06 elections, are anything other than coincidence.

I accept that I am in fact a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist.

Now I would like equal treatment for the lead headed coincidence theorists. How many coincidences must pile up before the complication of explaining all as just random congruence of unconnected events becomes ludicrous? When does occam's razor apply here?

"If the president isn't going to acknowledge that a law we
passed, such as FISA, binds him, why should the cutting off of funding
affect him?"

"But if he continues to assert not only this but other extreme
executive power doctrines, it will continue to be important to push
back and to ask the president to return to the law."

Hello American Senators: it's about dictatorship. It's about the rule of law. It is about the constitutional separation of powers. It is not about partisan politics. Stand up and do what is right. Democrat and Republican. Do it for your country.

that blame unattributed DU posts for being 'bad'. For example, this thread itself, and this post of mine. I think, and it is only my opinion, that if you have a problem with a specific post you should argue with the poster. If you think that the subject itself is inappropriate you should take that post and that specific complaint to the admins. I really don't understand what the point of the 'Unattributed Bad DUer' threads are. They are a class of post, along with the 'a freeper friend of mine' posts, that I find rhetorically dishonest.

In reality your post is the assertion that it isn't religion's fault that religious nutcases have become the driving force behind much of the conflict in the world. Why not simply make your case for that rather than starting out by casting blame on Unattributed Bad DUers?

"Would you burn a hammer because someone used it to make a gallows?"
No - but I think a better analogy is gun control and strict separation of church and state. Both guns and religion are artifacts of human civilization and both need regulation.

I am so relieved that my family will not be destroyed by the sight of a woman's breast. I am further relieved that I have the financial resources to subscribe to HBO and Showtime where I can watch excellent tv shows not currently under the control of our mullahs.