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So what if you are forced to use public insurance? You are forced to use one fire department as well. Private insurance will cover anything that people want covered that is NOT in the single payer plan. The savings from single payer will be so huge that if you have a middle class income, you will be able to afford all the bells and whistles you want, either out of pocket or covered by private insurance.
Where on earth do you get the ridiculous notion that health insurance companies provide care? Last I heard, doctors and nurses et al provide care, and insurance companies do their level best to make sure you have access to as little of it as possible. All kinds of private companies successfully compete on the same playing field as public services. Public libraries have not put bookstores out of business. Fedex and UPS compete successfully with the US Postal Service. The introduction of Social Security survivors’ benefits left plenty of room for many different kinds of private life insurance. If private health insurers are worried about competing with government financed health care, they are admitting straight out that they add no value to the health care system whatsoever. Which, come to think of is, is pretty much the case. A business model predicated on profiting from bankrupting or killing people by refusing to pay claims and by refusing to cover actual sick people in the first place adds negative value. They've publicly said as much to congressional investigators. A subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee recently held a hearing intended to bring a halt to this practice. But at the hearing, insurance executives told lawmakers they have no plans to stop rescinding policies. Odd, but I've never heard of that happening with Medicare.
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Public libraries have not put bookstores out of business. Fedex and UPS compete successfully with the US Postal Service. The introduction of Social Security survivors’ benefits left plenty of room for many different kinds of private life insurance. If private health insurers are worried about competing with government financed health care, they are admitting that they add no value to the health care system whatsoever.
![]() Private insurance makes profits by minimizing what it pays for care and by refusing to insure sick people, thereby killing at least 18,000 people a year. Adding a public option to the existing system will provide care for more people, but not save very much money. Only single payer health care financing can pay for care for everybody, no exceptions, without bankrupting us. --as of right now.
In his home state, "affordable" health insurance is worthless garbage that puts people not quite poor enough for subsidies in the hole to the tune of 10 or 20 thousand dollars before they pay a single bill. From Dr. Rachel Nardin of Massachusetts-- I will close with the story of one Massachusetts patient who has suffered as a result of the reform. Kathryn is a young diabetic who needs twelve prescriptions a month to stay healthy. She told us “Under Free Care I saw doctors at Mass. General and Brigham and Women's hospital. I had no co-payments for medications, appointments, lab tests or hospitalization. Under my Commonwealth Care Plan my routine monthly medical costs include the $110 premium, $200 for medications, a $10 appointment with my primary care doctor, and $20 for a specialist appointment. That's $340 per month, provided I stay well.” Now that she's “insured,” Kathryn's medical expenses consume almost one-quarter of her take home pay, and she wonders whether she'll be able to continue taking her life saving medications. This is apparently what Kennedy wants to inflict on the entire country. This is far worse than the status quo. Right now, the useless shitstain intermediaries have the legal right to kill us and/or make us bankrupt and homeless to enhance their bottom lines. And I'm supposed to line up and support a proposal that would force me to PAY them to continue doing it? NO FUCKING WAY! I will NOT be forced to pay for my own death or impoverishment! NO FUCKING WAY, Senator!! This bill effectively ends health care "reform." There will be no Repub votes for any Democratic proposal, ever, from either the house or the Senate, even with a totally crappy "public option" written by insurance companies. Without the Progressive Caucus, reform is going nowhere in the House. If you think the Baucus hearings were rowdy, you ain't seen nothing yet. I went to the one in South Seattle, which was very hard to find. Probably why only 8 showed up. Every single one of us was for single payer, but willing to live with a decent public option. (That includes me--I still don't think it's time yet to back off on advocating single payer, especially with the House hearings scheduled.) We all filled out the proferred sheets with our horror stories.
My friend attended the Normandy Park meeting, which had 25 attendees and was much easier to find. She found quite a few people not up to speed on the health care debate, and with her literature and persuasion skills brought every one of them over to advocating single payer except for one, who worked for an insurance company. I sure the hell hope that Obama pays attention to the feedback he is asking for.
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The CEOs, to be sure, will have to get real jobs. There are quite a few options for ordinary employees.
If the financing of health care is a public good, then public oversight can insure that the claims processing jobs that remain will never be sent out of the country. This is true whether we hire existing insurance companies to do this work or build a separate institutional structure from scratch. Once the burden of being robbed by expensive middlemen is removed from private and public employers, they will be able to afford to hire many more employees. The CA Nurses Study estimates that single payer could provide 2.6 million new jobs this way. There is a growing shortage of nurses, and we should be funding more training in this field. Private insurance will not disappear. All countries with universal health care have regulated private insurers who provide plans to fund extras not provided by the basic system. With health care not tied to a job, people will be free to start their own businesses, or to retire early and take on second careers or community work. This will free up spaces on their former employer’s career ladder. I suspect because private insurers force so many people to change doctors every time their employment circumstances change.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2005/november/int... The US leads the world in medical error rates because private for profit insurance fragments the provider pool and forces people to change doctors all the time whenever their employment circumstances change. It doesn't matter how good Obama's electronic records system turns out to be--it can't replace a provider who has known you for a long time. From the NYT summary--
Under the Kennedy bill, individuals would be subject to financial penalties if they did not have health insurance. Under the bill, the federal government would make grants to the states to establish insurance marketplaces or exchanges. Those entities, known as health benefit gateways, would disseminate information about premiums and benefits and would help people enroll. This sounds exactly like the utter failure that is the Massachusetts system. I mean failure for sick people of course. Quite a few of the healthy majority are happy with the delusion of "coverage," about which they know nothing, not having ever been expensively sick. Dr. Rachel Nardin's PNHP testimony-- Despite the reform, coverage remains unaffordable for many in our state. As a result, despite the threat of a fine, some residents remain uninsured. Others have bought the required insurance but are suffering financially. For a middle income, 56-year-old man, the cheapest policy available under the reform costs $4,872 annually in premiums alone. Moreover, it carries a $2,000 deductible and 20 percent co-payments after that, up to a maximum of $3000 annually. Buying such coverage means laying out nearly $7000 before expenses before the insurance pays a single medical bill. It is not surprising that many of the state's uninsured have declined such coverage. .... I will close with the story of one Massachusetts patient who has suffered as a result of the reform. Kathryn is a young diabetic who needs twelve prescriptions a month to stay healthy. She told us “Under Free Care I saw doctors at Mass. General and Brigham and Women's hospital. I had no co-payments for medications, appointments, lab tests or hospitalization. Under my Commonwealth Care Plan my routine monthly medical costs include the $110 premium, $200 for medications, a $10 appointment with my primary care doctor, and $20 for a specialist appointment. That's $340 per month, provided I stay well.” Now that she's “insured,” Kathryn's medical expenses consume almost one-quarter of her take home pay, and she wonders whether she'll be able to continue taking her life saving medications. From the PNHP analysis of aobut 2 years ago-- http://www.pnhp.org/news/2007/september/he... And 244,000 of Massachusetts uninsured get zero assistance - just a stiff fine if they don’t buy coverage. A couple in their late 50s faces a minimum premium of $8,638 annually, for a policy with no drug coverage at all and a $2,000 deductible per person before insurance even kicks in. Such skimpy yet costly coverage is, in many cases, worse than no coverage at all. Illness will still bring crippling medical bills - but the $8,638 annual premium will empty their bank accounts even before the bills start arriving. Little wonder that barely 2 percent of those required to buy such coverage have thus far signed up. From Public Citizen Health Letter Public Hospitals and Community Clinics Suffering Under Massachusetts Health Care Reform Statement of Steffie Woolhandler, MD., Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Research Group and Co-Founder, Physicians for a National Health Program Many remain uninsured in Massachusetts and access to health care continues to be a problem statewide; for many residents it has actually worsened. This is particularly disgraceful given the surge in spending for the reform effort, which has run hundreds of millions of dollars over its original budget. The reform cost $1.1 billion in fiscal 2008 and $1.3 billion in fiscal 2009. These high costs have already triggered a new crisis in our state. Last fall Gov. Deval Patrick announced massive cuts to safety net providers including public hospitals and community clinics. As a result, these providers have reduced the care available to the state's remaining uninsured, as well as to others who rely on them for services in short supply in the private sector. These safety net services, which often lose money for hospitals even when patients have good insurance, include emergency care, chronic mental health care and primary care. The public hospital where I work is busier than ever, but has just announced that it will close six community clinics, and about half of its inpatient psychiatry beds—despite critical shortages of primary care and psychiatric services. Most of our poor patients, who previously received completely free care, are now forced to pay upfront co-payments prior to receiving care. Meanwhile, the reform further encouraged the overuse of expensive, high-technology care. Little known provisions in the bill increased payments for specialty care while cutting reimbursement for primary care. This has further tilted health spending toward expensive, high-tech care and away from the primary and preventive care that is the sine qua non of quality efficient health care. By requiring that uninsured residents purchase private health insurance, the law reinforced the economic and political power of health insurance firms. Patients were forced to help foot the bill for private insurer's high overhead—three to four times higher than Medicare's administrative costs. Moreover, the agency that administers the new law (the "Connector") adds an extra 4 to 5 percentage points to the already high overhead of private health insurance policies. And for hospitals and doctors, the new reform has added new administrative burdens and costs. In contrast, a single payer system of non-profit national health insurance could save $8-$10 billion annually in the state through reduced administrative costs. This money could be used to cover all of the state's uninsured residents and to improve coverage for those who now have insurance with large co-payments and deductibles, without any increase in total health care costs. The Massachusetts reform law is not providing universal access to care, even in a wealthy state with the most favorable circumstances. We started out with high levels of medical spending and low rates of uninsurance. Yet even under these near-ideal conditions the reform is failing. It would be a grave mistake to use Massachusetts' reform as a model for the nation. http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/060509....
As the health insurance industry and its defenders in Congress lay out their case against permitting a public option in a reform bill, perhaps their most curious argument is that some 119 million Americans are ready to dump their private plans and jump to something more like Medicare – and that’s why the choice can’t be permitted. In other words, the industry and its backers are acknowledging that more than one-third of the American people are so dissatisfied with their private health insurance that they trust the U.S. government to give them a fairer shake on health care. The industry says its allies in Congress must prevent that. The peculiar argument that 119 million Americans must be denied the public option that they prefer has been made most notably by Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, which is one of two panels that has jurisdiction over the health insurance bill. “As many as 119 million Americans would shift from private coverage to the government plan,” Grassley wrote in a column for Politico.com. That migration, Grassley said, would “put America on the path toward a completely government-run health care system. … Eventually, the government plan would overtake the entire market.” Grassley’s logic is that so many Americans would prefer a government-run plan that the private health insurance industry would collapse or become a shadow of its current self. That, in turn, would lead even more Americans entering the government plan, making private insurance even less viable. {b}Having Health Insurance Does Not Mean Having Health Care{/b}
{i}Statement of Rachel Nardin, MD., President, Massachusetts Chapter of Physicians for a National Health Program, neurologist at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, and assistant professor of neurology at Harvard In April 2006, Massachusetts enacted a health care reform law with the stated goal of providing near-universal coverage of the Massachusetts population. Nearly three years into the reform we know a lot about what has worked and what hasn't. Examining this data critically is vitally important as the Obama administration considers elements of the Massachusetts' plan as a model for national health care reform. On Feb. 19 we released a new study on the Massachusetts reform. This study details many problems with the reform effort. We are also releasing a letter from nearly 500 Massachusetts physicians to Senator Kennedy asking him not to push for a Massachusetts-style reform nationally. My colleagues and I see the effects of the Massachusetts reform on patients every day and know that this is not a healthy model for the nation. The Massachusetts reform is an example of an “incremental” reform. It tried to fill in gaps in coverage, while leaving undisturbed existing public and private health insurance programs. It did this by expanding Medicaid, and offering a new subsidized coverage program for the poor and near-poor. It also mandated that middle-income uninsured people either purchase private insurance or pay a substantial fine ($1068 in 2009). The reform has reduced the numbers of uninsured, although our report shows that the state's claim is untrue. This claim is based on a phone survey that reached few non-English speaking households and few who lacked landline phones—two groups with high rates of uninsurance. Other data also calls this claim into question. For instance, both the Massachusetts Department of Revenue and the March 2008 U.S. Census Bureau survey indicate that at least 5 percent of people in Massachusetts remain uninsured. Moreover, the use of free care services in Massachusetts has fallen by only a third, suggesting that the numbers of uninsured in Massachusetts may well be even higher than 5 percent. Despite the reform, coverage remains unaffordable for many in our state. As a result, despite the threat of a fine, some residents remain uninsured. Others have bought the required insurance but are suffering financially. For a middle income, 56-year-old man, the cheapest policy available under the reform costs $4,872 annually in premiums alone. Moreover, it carries a $2,000 deductible and 20 percent co-payments after that, up to a maximum of $3000 annually. Buying such coverage means laying out nearly $7000 before expenses before the insurance pays a single medical bill. It is not surprising that many of the state's uninsured have declined such coverage. The study we released on Feb. 19 also reminds us that having health insurance is not the same thing as having health care. Despite having coverage, many Massachusetts residents cannot afford care. In some cases, patients are actually worse off under the reform than they were under the state's old system of free care because their new insurance has far higher co-pays for medications and care. According to a recent Boston Globe/Blue Cross Foundation survey, 13% of people with insurance in our state were unable to pay for some health services that they had received and 13% could not afford to fill necessary prescriptions. The reform does not appear to have reduced the numbers of people who were unable to get care that they needed because of the cost. I will close with the story of one Massachusetts patient who has suffered as a result of the reform. Kathryn is a young diabetic who needs twelve prescriptions a month to stay healthy. She told us “Under Free Care I saw doctors at Mass. General and Brigham and Women's hospital. I had no co-payments for medications, appointments, lab tests or hospitalization. Under my Commonwealth Care Plan my routine monthly medical costs include the $110 premium, $200 for medications, a $10 appointment with my primary care doctor, and $20 for a specialist appointment. That's $340 per month, provided I stay well.” Now that she's “insured,” Kathryn's medical expenses consume almost one-quarter of her take home pay, and she wonders whether she'll be able to continue taking her life saving medications. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/heal...
Tacoma Rally sign-in ![]() Chair of Pierce Co Health Care for All--WA ![]() Stage at Tacoma Rally ![]() Stage at Seattle rally ![]() Belly dancers for single payer ![]() Tandem bikers for single payer ![]() Miss Single Payer ![]() Seattle Health Care for All--WA gathers at the pre-march rally ![]() Citizen Artiste the costume goddess dancing for single payer ![]() Red Health Care for All bandannas were handed out by organizers of the march and were very popular.
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Christmas comes early, Governor. You can print your own money. Fiscally solvent North Dakota is doing it...and so can California. Now! In a May 22 article in Time titled "Billions in the Red: Fiscal Reckoning in CA," Juliet Williams reports that since California voters have now vetoed higher taxes and further state government borrowing, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has indicated that he intends to close the budget gap almost entirely through drastic spending cuts. The cutbacks could include laying off thousands of state workers and teachers, ending the state's main welfare program for the poor, eliminating health coverage for about 1.5 million poor children, halting cash grants for about 77,000 college students, slashing money for state parks, and releasing thousands of prisoners before their sentences are finished. Schwarzenegger bemoaned the fact that the state could not print its own money but said it could only spend what it had. But the state can create its own money. After all, banks do this every day. Certified, card-carrying bankers are allowed to do something nobody else can do: they can create "credit" with accounting entries on their books. As the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas explains on its website: Last October, I made sure that she was able to vote for Obama. She's white, late middle age and low income. Her records had inconsistencies, and she had gotten notices that she was not registered. She didn't have a computer, so I got online, found that she was listed, and asked someone from the elections department to get back to her. She said she had not voted since voting for Clinton in 1992, but that this year was really, really important.
What was apparently not very important to her after 1992 was voting in 1994, and I'm sure you all remember what happened that year. There is a widely shared mythology that the 90s were some sort of apex in prosperity, but that is not the case. The tech bubble disguised a lot of the harm caused by outsourcing and welfare "reform," and Clinton managed to blunt some of the worst Republican excesses. The real value of the minimum wage rose, but came nowhere near its peak in the late 60s. http://www.epi.org/issueguides/minwage/fig... Will she and people like her see ANY motion toward improvement in our economy? She can't afford to get sick, and people like her in Massachusetts had their budgets destroyed by mandatory insurance. Where are the policies that will help her? http://www.counterpunch.org/bageant0909200... The truth is that Dottie would vote for any candidate, black, white, crippled blind or crazy, that she thought would actually help her. I know because I have asked her if she would vote for a president who wanted a nationalized health care program?" "Vote for him? I'd go down on him!" Voter approval doesn't get much stronger than that. Quite a few of the Dotties of all colors came out for Obama last year. If we don't make some serious improvements in their lives, they'll stay home in 2010, just like they did in 1994. In the absence of observable economic improvement and enacting single payer (or at the very least a strong public option) the electorate is likely to go back to apathy, continuing a very ominous and self-reinforcing trend. http://www.truthout.org/052509D?n In the 1970s, whether an individual came from a low-, medium- or high-income county didn't seem to have any predictive effect on whether or not that person voted, though rich people still voted at greater rates than poor people. But over the past three decades, as the nation became more segregated by wealth, the effect of living in a poor county, independent of one's own wealth, became a significant predictor of whether an individual voted or not. In other words, while individual-level poverty has always been associated with less civic engagement, increasing class-based segregation is widening the participatory gap between rich and poor even further. The results are published in the spring issue of Political Science Quarterly. "Our argument is to say, look, it's not just enough to look at changes in income and wealth," explained Soss. "These have been bundled with really profound changes. ... We've become far more class-segregated in residential neighborhoods, and as this has happened, it has acted kind of like a force multiplier." http://www.nwsub.com/newsweek/public/conta...
1-800-631-1040 251 W 57th St New York, 10019-1802 www.newsweek.com 212.445.4000 Please quit publishing irrelevant tripe on "life expectancy at birth." The big improvements in this statistic are due almost entirely to the dramatic reduction of infant mortality, which makes not the slightest bit of difference to the solvency of Social Security. If you die before you reach age 2, you are irrelevant, since you will never contribute to it nor collect from it. The meaninful numbers here are life expectancies for those who have already attained the age of 65. There have been increases since 1940, but not very scary ones. http://www.ssa.gov/history/lifeexpect.html Further life expectancy of 65 year old men in 1940-- 12.7 Further life expectancy of 65 year old men in 1990-- 15.3 Further life expectancy of 65 year old women in 1940-- 14.7 Further life expectancy of 65 year old women in 1940-- 19.6 So men have gained about 2 years and women about 5. That can be readily handled by raising the income level subject to FICA, and that would more than justify the continued receipt of benefits by people with higher incomes. Samuelson's presumed alternatives for old people are for them to either rely on investing in financial bubbles or drop dead. Lots of luck with that politically.
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You’re hearing a lot of bashing of government-run health care these days, but notice the bashers don't call out the programs out by name. There’s a reason for that. SCHIP is hugely popular. The VA is arguably the best system of care in the country. Medicaid has less of a sterling reputation, but that's largely because no one really understands how it works or who is eligible for what state-by-state. And Medicare? Well, as a new Commonwealth Fund poll confirms, Americans are significantly more satisfied with Medicare than private insurance. It’s time to get back to basics. “Government-run” may be scary to some, but it’s lovable in practice. Single-payer advocates often call their plan “Medicare for All.” The public health insurance option touted by Obama, Baucus and most of the Democratic leaders is usually referred to as “like Medicare.” Clearly there’s magic in the program, but how strong is it? The poll compared the responses of those over 65 with Medicare to a random assortment of those with private insurance. Now this isn’t exactly apples to apples – Medicare beneficiaries in this poll were nearly three times as likely as those with private insurance to list their condition as “fair or poor” (the lowest ranking), almost four times as likely to have multiple chronic conditions, and twice as likely to be 200% of the poverty line or below. To no one’s surprise, Medicare beneficiaries are older, sicker, more in need of care, and poorer – the exact reasons why Lyndon Johnson and JFK wanted to create the program in the first place. But despite their higher needs for consistent and likely expensive care, the magic of Medicare is that it’s more responsive to the customer than private health insurance. 32% of beneficiaries report having a negative incident with Medicare – a number that’s clearly too high and indicative of how much Medicare needs some reforms to improve the program. But that number is 44% for private insurance. Still, we keep hearing Medicare ain’t as good as it used to be. Think of the developments over the past few years that call into question how satisfied someone might be with Medicare – turns out many of them aren’t as bad as we’d think. |
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