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Posted by evolvingsteve in Political Videos
Thu Jan 21st 2010, 12:09 AM

 
with the public option question is a very good thing.

With Gibbs agreeing to show up tomorrow it allows Gibbs to regroup tonight. I bet he's talked to President Obama by now about what to say regarding the public option.

Hopefully something good came out of that conversation where the message from the White House will be that they are going to be a lot more aggressive in trying to pass legislation for real health care reform with a public option and other very important things that the administration needs to and will accomplish!


Be a fighter President Obama, I fought hard for you in your campaign, and I wasn't the only one! It is now your turn to progressively fight for us, the American people!

and don't give us Hillary-Care which is what the present bill has been. I refuse to be forced to get health insurance and get fined, that's freakin' why I campaigned against Hillary in the primaries!!!!!
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One by one, week after week, I've been losing friends that I've known for a long time due to Hillary and this drawn out political primary season. It's very sad to. Whenever I think or state out loud that I think she should drop out, it's not because I'm sexist or that I don't want a women to be president, but it's because I'm losing friends that are so caught up in this and support her so much that we are going are separate ways. I use to think that maybe this party would get their crap together and unite behind the likely nominee, but instead, I'm seeing first hand whats happening to Hillary supporters, they're turning their back on me and I'm doing the same(on a local level). They are so disillusioned by Hillary that they are ignoring the math or recreating it, they are ignoring the facts and blinding people with negative rhetoric, and they are throwing accusations of sexism from Obama supporters like myself that has ALWAYS believed in equal rights to all. They destroy the truth or don't care what the truth is, and then slap me in the face and our soldiers in Iraq by claiming they will vote McCain when Obama becomes the nominee. What started as a path of Change and Unity has turned into bitterness and resentment of their own party! My good friend Clinton (ironic that this is his name huh?), that I've known for years that has always been Democrat and has always been against Bush and his War, has become closed minded and likes to use Republican talking points like "patriotism being absent in Obama" and is very hurt that his wishes 3 or 4 years ago about Hillary becoming President have all but vanished. He thought just like me that it would be handed to her on a silver plate, and then Obama comes along and messes with his head because he hates to be wrong! He told me that Obama was a "bad man" because of his chart (he's a semi-pro in Astrology) and that he will vote for McCain in the GE....how did my friends that I've known for years and that have always been logical with politics and so against this War in Iraq, turn to this way of thinking and just abandon the Democratic party?? Why would such a smart guy go as far to say and compare a vote to Obama is like voting for Hitler if he were his party's nominee??? People, ones that are even close to me, are losing their God Damn minds!!! I could go off about a few other friends but this friend is their mascot because he has bewildered me the most and can represent all of the friends that I don't talk to anymore because of their way of thinking. I met some great new friends but it's so sad that I've lost a good chunk of the friends I've known for years, all because of this election season and their convictions. I'm a very optimistic guy, but I had to write my first Journal about this because this has been eating at me for weeks now and I'm very hurt right now over this. I care about our country so much and it's so sad that this passion is getting in the way of me and my good friends. It's not fair and I can only pray that I can at least gain half of my good friends back with better judgment coming from their side in the future. I'm 9 times out of 10 usually a positive happy guy, but right now, I'm very sad....and to see the Hillary supporters that want to vote McCain all over the Internet only reminds me of how personally the same is happening with the ones I've cared about so much. I pray that by the time the GE ends, McCain won't be President and continue Bush's crap legacy after all the madness that has been going on. I'm not worried about the few Electoral votes that would come from Idaho, but I don't want this to spill over to key states that we as Democrats need to win this November. This poison needs to be remedied soon or we're screwed!
Come on my fellow DU friends, cheer me up and let's put our heads together regarding my concerns, and maybe then this country in my head can get just what the doctor ordered, and that's true Unity (and hopefully gaining my friends back logically and respectfully)thank you.
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Posted by evolvingsteve in Idaho
Mon May 05th 2008, 05:45 PM
berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Mon May-05-08 06:34 AM
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This is *Democratic Underground*

I've seen a number of posts now call out the overwhelming Obama support on this site and saying it has become an Obama fan club. It's true the majority of posters here support Obama. But no one has really discussed why that is. The small number of remaining supporters, while I respect their tenacity, should consider more deeply why they are in such an extreme minority at this point. Here are a few clues as to why this is:

- When a candidate engages in race-baiting tactics, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate blames early losses on Democratic caucuses and African American votes, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.
- When a candidate agrees to the decisions of the DNC before she loses the early primaries, and then wants to change the rules afterward, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate pays over $100,000 per day to a union busting political strategist who is secretly working on Bush's trade deals, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate threatens to use MI and FL as a divisive tool against the nominee if it isn't her, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate endorses the Republican nominee over her Democratic opponent, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate allows a surrogate to say her opponent is "lucky to be black" for 12 straight days before stopping her, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate circulates religiously bigoted emails about her opponent and goes on Rush Limbaugh, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate starts working with Ruppert Murdoch and Richard Mellon Scaife for their news media endorsements, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate sits idly by as racially divisive and religiously bigoted attacks come from places like freerepublic and end up on an ABC debate, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate drinks beers and pounds back Royal Crown shots to hypocritically hide her true elitism, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate hires a third party organization to violate election law and suppress the African American vote in NC as well as several other states, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

- When a candidate attacks her opponent on gun laws with a RW-look-alike hit piece and she has the very same stance on gun law, that candidate will lose supporters from this site.

There are many, many more reasons that Clinton herself is providing for the ever decreasing population of Clinton supporters at this site, but I hope the above list is enough to provide some understanding.
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....this read reminded me of all the reasons why I don't support her, kind of like a short youtube film...of course, just within the context of writing a political post...does that make sense to anyone, lol.

anyway, I'm glad you put this up.....the words that come to mind are intelligent, beautiful, and honest. This is a list is worth keeping with you all the time to remind Hillary supporters who they are passionately standing behind.....kind of like, kucinich with his pocket constitution, lol.


Leave the dark side Hillary supporters, and join the rest of the bright and intelligent DUers here and get with a campaign that isn't as screwy as Hillary's....

and to the Extreme Gung-Ho women activists out there that want to see a woman as President soooo badly,....don't want it and be obsessed with it so much that you would vote for the Devil....in Clinton's clothing...

Our Country United should come first, regardless if it's brought by a Man or a Woman....it just so happens to be a Man that can do that, but I would have been "All Game" even if it were to come from a Woman....I like personally like Gov. Sebelius as a future DP nominee for President....let's get past the evil and wait for a woman that can offer a lot more!
....but now, it's Obama's turn to shine and Unite the Country for all of us, including women.
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