They have recognized they have been fucked and are figuring out how to secure their own future against the resurgence of robber barony.
I stand in awe of the accomplishments over these last 3 weeks.
I stand in awe of the inclusiveness of the 99% movement.
I stand in awe that their grave peril is being met with love for all.
Suddenly, I have newly found hope for humanity.
I'm off to put on some Buffalo Springfield.
This will take much more coordination than I can supply, but I got the notion that anything we can do to support a constant presence by encampment and a thorn in the side of the crusters in financial districts across the nation, that it would be way cool. It starts in NYC.
I think there are enough young people out of work in cities to have a constant presence. They will need food to be able to maintain that presence.
Maybe it's a silly notion, but I've seen DU do some amazing things in the past and we're due for pulling off something big. Can we feed them?
Americans Elect asks the question on their website. They are claiming to run a directly nominated third candidate in the 2012 contest. A slick website promising a populist movement.
Well it's bullshit. Granted it's some really high grade bullshit, the kind you let season in the summer in a pile, not washed into some holding pond to be pumped onto fields later. You know what Dick Armey did with Tea Bagger Central? Well think of a tea party that can spell. They appear to be going after reasonable people who maybe don't pay attention to details.
There's a lot to be digested about this group, but, essentially it was founded with hedge fund money and is advised by rostrum of conservative players. That those guys from places like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Progressive Policy Institute, a litany of lobbying firms, and at least one with high connections into the intelligence community, are working towards anything that would help John Q is simply beyond my comprehension.
We need to spread the word on this. This is the path to a wingnut president, and those people know it, I daresay they are banking on it.
They call themselves Americans Elect:
Americans Elect is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that is funded by individual contributions. We were founded by citizens from across the political spectrum who are worried that political divisions are keeping our nation's big problems from being solved. We intend to pay back the bulk of our initial financing as we recruit delegates, so that no single individual will have contributed more than $10K. And so that our candidates will answer only to the American people.
As interesting notion, that I will admit, but who are the people organizing this? They claim to have over a million already signed up and we all know that times are ripe for a populist candidate. My Spidey senses are all a tingly.
I would hate to see someone like Dick Armey doing something like this. After what was done with an apparent populist movement called the tea party which has seemingly grabbed the reigns of the republican party.
So who are they? Is this legit or a ploy to divide the vote? It seems to me like it would be important to know.
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Everyone thinks it's a great idea.
When I say it, not so much.
and shit brimstone.
Before you cut one thin dime from Grandma, I want $10 from Wall St. and $20 from the Pentagon/CIA.
The same for the next fucking dime.
I for one am tired of this shit.
Or do I have that backwards?
It's a hoary bureaucratic trick, making a controversial announcement on the Friday afternoon before a long weekend, when most people are daydreaming about what beer to buy on the way home from work, or are checking movie times online. But that's precisely what the US Department of Agriculture pulled last Friday.
In an innocuous-sounding press release titled "USDA Responds to Regulation Requests Regarding Kentucky Bluegrass," agency officials announced their decision not to regulate a "Roundup Ready" strain of Kentucky bluegrass—that is, a strain genetically engineered to withstand glyphosate, Monsanto's widely used herbicide, which we know as Roundup. The maker of the novel grass seed, Scotts Miracle Gro, is now free to sell it far and wide. So you'll no doubt be seeing Roundup Ready bluegrass blanketing lawns and golf courses near you—and watching anal neighbors and groundskeepers literally dousing the grass in weed killer without fear of harming a single precious blade.
Which is worrisome enough. But even more worrisome is the way this particular product was approved. According to Doug Gurian-Sherman, senior scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists' Food and Environment Program, the documents released by the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) along with the announcement portend a major change in how the feds will deal with genetically modified crops.
Notably, given the already-lax regulatory regime governing GMOs (genetically modified organisms, click here for a primer), APHIS seems to be ramping down oversight to the point where it is essentially meaningless. The new regime corresponding with the bluegrass announcement would "drastically weaken USDA’s regulation," Gurian-Sherman told me. "This is perhaps the most serious change in US regs for
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I thought it was worth mentioning.
WASHINGTON - June 21 - Today, Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) launched the Campaign to End Corporate Rule. Its mission states:
The Campaign to End Corporate Rule exists to influence budget debates, election outcomes, public policy and other achievable short-term, mid-term and long-term objectives to restore democratic balance and end corporate dominance in our society.
Corporate welfare will be a main theme of the campaign, beginning with the Medicare Part D prohibition on negotiating prices of bulk medicine purchases, which could save hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars in a decade—easily a trillion dollars over two decades—if eliminated. The campaign is asking taxpayers to sign a petition asking Congress to close the no-negotiation loophole.
"Time and again, whether we are seeking sensible healthcare, environmental, economic, or foreign policy supported by a majority of Americans, we are stifled because corporate lobbyists and donors have managed to get between us and our legislators," said Tim Carpenter, PDA national director.
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I'm thinking I give them my name and go to jail for refusing a search.
"I do not consent to any warrantless search. Am I free to go?"
Think you could avoid the TSA's body scanners and pat-downs by taking Amtrak? Think again. Even your daily commute isn't safe from TSA screenings. And because the TSA is working with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol, you may have your immigration status examined along with your "junk".
As part of the TSA's request for FY 2012 funding, TSA Administrator John Pistole told Congress last week that the TSA conducts 8,000 unannounced security screenings every year. These screenings, conducted with local law enforcement agencies as well as immigration, can be as simple as checking out cargo at a busy seaport. But more and more, they seem to involve giving airport-style pat-downs and screenings of unsuspecting passengers at bus terminals, ferries, and even subways. These surprise visits are part of the TSA's VIPR program: Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response. The VIPR program first started doing searches in 2007, and has grown since then. Currently, the TSA only has 25 VIPR teams doing these impromptu searches: in 2012, it wants to get 12 more.
I'm sure the we are NOT a police state crowd will be here in 3, 2, ...
I was raised to be conservative and grew up in SW Pa. I turned 12 about the time the effects of the Clean Water Act were starting to kick in.
The Point, in Pittsburg 1968, the Monongehela River (foreground, to right) and the Allegheny River (upframe) form the Ohio River
Note the Allegheny is a tad cleaner than the Mon. I watched the color improving and fish species and grasses improve on this river. The brown is not farm runoff, but mine tailing and dewatering runoff. I can attest that if you didn't have your well set into a limestone water vein, you had sulfurous nasty drinking water.
I don't know if there ever was a study of the excess deaths this caused, or if the effects pollution on that scale can be properly quantified, but the beneficiaries of not having to clean up their mess were Big Coal and Big Steel.
From Maine to California, the cost of cleanup of the pollution of industry is paid by future generations. The currency is not only in superfund tax dollars to remediate places like Love Canal, but also in the health effects (insured and uninsured alike) on the local populations. There could be books written listing the sites across the nation where the risks and costs have been pushed off to the public.
The conservative thing to do is to make these polluters pay for the cleanup and the health care, rather than burden the public with it. If the industries as a whole can't or won't conduct their business in a way that doesn't harm others, then they should be taxed and regulated to reduce or even remove the pollution and to cover the impact of the industry on the public's well being. But, gasp, that would be socialism! I say bring it on!
Can anyone answer what is so conservative about today's GOP? Why is it that today's captains of industry can not only continue the practices that led to the conditions of the '60s, but far exceed them when measured in damage?
How is it conservative to exempt the gas industry from the Clean Water Act? Who will bear the cost of that disastrous victory for the T Boone Pickens clean gas crowd? How about the mountaintop removal crowd?
What exactly are today's conservatives actually conserving?
Sorry I didn't find it in a cursory search.
Is the subject of this thread planting a seed of history modification?
Please let it be that we are at least looking a little sideways if not back.
An old saying which means about the same as pissing in the wind, which is what I may be doing here, but bear with me a moment while I preach to the choir so I can gather my thoughts.
There is so much to be done on so many fronts, it's hard to track, but since we seem to be in the midst of the perennial budget battle I've gotten the notion that we need to put into concrete terms of what is acceptable in this year of the knife.
A dime. Our least of coins in size, yet for every dime taken from supporting the elderly, the poor, the maintenance of infrastructure, education, environmental protections, medical research, to name a few. These dimes stimulate the economy into $0.17 of activity.
I want a dollar cut from bombs, delivery platforms, outsourcing jobs in the military that used to provide soldiers with real experience that were taken to the real world. Oh, and while we're at it put a rider in that anyone who pulls shit like this is summarily dismissed from service with all pensions due invalidated.
I want a dollar from the subsidies to corporations who render Nature inhospitable and raise her ire upon humankind with no penalty.
Damn it! I want a dollar cut!
For. Every. Fucking. Dime.
I think I'm being generous here, but that's what I want. There is a study, I know there's always a study, that measures what average people want to do with the budget.
What say you? Can we get the For Every Dime meme going?
The foci of the foundation will be Persona Verification, the detection of simulated persona in cyberspace and lobbying to make the practice illegal with civil penalties payable to those who have to wade through it. I'm thinking similar to the Can-Spam Act.
As our language processing capabilities increases and our government is investing in Persona Management systems, the systems will only become more sophisticated. That our military is investing in these technologies in addition to entities owned by people like the Koch brothers, there is a great need for people who wish to be knowledgeable about the origination of ideas that they encounter in the world, to be able to gain that understanding.
As an example of the state of the art in the understanding of the digitization of the English language, I present Watson. Sure Watson was engineered to play a language game and answer specific questions, but please consider for a moment what the impact of the use of the raw material available from Watson like systems as a cyberservice, and apply that to cyberhuman mimicry.
Did you ever play with the program Eliza? This program has been implemented many times by many people over the years with varying degrees of sophistication. What persona management means is that someone can place hundreds of interaction points connected to very sophisticated versions of eliza without the other party's knowledge that they are interacting with a software service. Now think about an eliza program on the level of Watson.
The ancient geek saying that to really fuck things up requires a computer, has taken on a mortal meaning now. We all know how easily a significant portion of the population can be capture with a big lie repeated often. Think about that for a few minutes too.
This is a world wide issue. Truly.
I am deadly serious about combating it. I have technical skills enough to apply to the problem. We're gonna need geeks, lawyers, fundraisers and a name.
Please come and join me in this fight, it's too much for only one biological.
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