successfully smeared as losers for both having already lost in presidential runs. Then there'd be the smearing of Gore for his "extremist" environmental policies, and we'd have to listen to the banal sniping of Edwards for his haircuts ad infinitum. What's worse, the RW media could also smear the whole Democratic party for not having the guts/flip-flopping on trying to elect a woman or a black man. The fact is, the way the media is tilted against the left, no candidate or ticket we put forth will be embraced by the media.

I also think the SD's putting up a ticket of two monied, white, male southerners would split the party apart more than having either Clinton or Obama as our candidate. African Americans and youth who have been working for Obama would be pissed off, and they'd also piss off the women and blue collar folk who have been working so hard for Clinton. I think usurping the two candidates we have now would lead to much more disillusionment, apathy and disenfranchisement than the 47%% of Clinton supporters who'll defect if Obama gets the nod, or the 37% of Obama supporters who'd leave if Clinton is chosen. The SDs will never dismiss the voting that has already happened, especially since so many of them are up for re-election themselves.