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report sent out to those of us who took the survey:
Flemington, NJ, December 3, 2010 – A new national study among 307 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that all parties indicated that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should prosecuted to the full extent of the law after viewing a video of Hillary Clinton discussing the WikiLeaks situation.
The study was conducted during December 1 -2, by HCD Research and reported on its MediaCurves.com® website to obtain Americans’ perceptions of a video in which Hillary Clinton’s discloses some of the information that was leaked on the WikiLeaks website.
After viewing the video, all parties increased support for prosecuting Assange with Democrats increasing their support from 34% to 35%, Republicans from 47% to 51%, and Independents form 33% to 40%. In addition, when asked about the impact of the WikiLeaks situation, all parties reported that Assange is doing a disservice to the United States
What do you think the repercussions should be for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange?
_______________________________________________________Dems_____Reps____Inds
_______________________________________________________Pre--Post Pre--Post Pre--Post
He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law_____________34% 35% 47% 51% 33% 40%
He should be rewarded for his exposure of corruptions___________24% 27% 22% 21% 16% 15%
Nothing should happen____________________________________42% 38% 31% 28% 51% 45%
Probably my terrible math skills are showing again, but how do these numbers justify this headline/email subject?
Americans Say WikiLeaks Founder Should be Prosecuted to Full Extent of the Law
(Hope you can read the table. It, of course, didn't copy in table from from the HTML table in the email. I tried to align the columns, but that's another trick I don't have up my sleeve!)
The same crew who kept Dubya's approval rating from dropping to negative numbers where it belonged. They don't want to hear about the mess Obama was handed, they just want him to stop being uppity and personally pay off the debt, cure diabetes, and get them free Nascar season tickets and a lifetime supply of high-fructose corn syrup and pancake-dipped, bacon-wrapped, syrup-soaked sausage-on-a-stick snacks.
These are the ones who think Jesus records all torture and murder of gays and Muslims on his magical DVR and watches them with his angel friends for kicks every Sunday afternoon and earmarks the largest, glitziest cloud-mansions just for those most excellent Xtian killers.
We're talking about people who think evolution is "just a theory," and who want the government to keep its filthy paws off their Medicare and social security.
Einsteins who agree that pointless fruit fly research is just taking money away from the defense budget, none of which, by the way, should be wasted on spoiling those sissy troops by properly arming them and providing them with decent salaries and substantial medical and educational benefits once they come back to the land of the free-to-be-right wing xtians and the home of the brave young republicans who have better things to do than join up to help prosecute the wars they so rabidly "support."
Yep, we're talking about the "real" Americans here, and no one is more "real" to them than Sarah MILF Palin. Fall on your knees!
Dear Mr. President,
We elected you with that faith that you would follow through on your promises, but in LGBT issues, you insulted and failed us (I am straight, btw.) In transparency and ending Bush policies which subverted the constitution, again, you have insulted and failed those of us who believed you when you claimed to agree with our vision of the US as a nation of laws, and that no one is above those laws.
Trillions of dollars were given, with virtually no strings attached, to the same unfathomably wealthy fat-cats who wrecked Main Street via Wall Street greed and irresponsibility, yet union members' contracts were trashed and those men and women were forced to compromise and sacrifice yet again.
Now, rather than start high and bargain down reluctantly, you have given away our chance to achieve real health reform in this country for the sake of appeasing the obstructionist Republican party?. No bargaining on drug prices? Eighty lousy million dollars in promises from the Health Scare Industry to perhaps exercise some restraint in jacking up future costs?
You should have used you political capital to sell the Medicare for all concept with clear, consistent, unrelenting speeches all across the country. Town Hall bullies should have been. made to act respectfully or have been ejected. And this tiny minority's opinion should not have had the disproportionate influence it has had on the proposals under consideration.
We elected you. We Democrats are in;what may be the best bargaining position we'll have in years, and yet we are seeing little happen to get this country back on track, as you had promised us. And now you want to bail on the public option and support a bill that could give the insurance companies even more money and power, rather than one which would provide what you know to be what we need--single payer, or, in the very least offer a robust, immediately (ASAP) available public option.
Invoke the right wing's beloved hero, Reagan, and move toward the tax rates of his time for the very few at the top. Work it out so that only those making over two million see any increase, Let those who have benefited extravagantly from the opportunities made possible by this society--which each of us has a part in--contribute financial resources significant enough pay for instituting universal, single payer health care for Americans. Expand Medicare, create new programs--whatever. Just recognize and meet the challenge of broadly recognized moral imperative.
You claim to know that many of us out here struggling in many cases fighting for our very lives, yet you apparently don't actually care. You are in a position to usher in the sort of progressive tidal wave not seen since FDR's New Deal. Don't allow corporate influence or that of right wind extremists to derail you from your destiny. It's not too late. Do the right thing.
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I have edited and proofread it repeatedly, and I can't stand to think about it any longer, and so will submit it as is to the whitehouse.gov contact page. I know many DUers disagree with my criticism of the president. So be it.
edited to correct 100th to 1000th post--d'oh!
just about as ready to punch someone out as I've ever been in my life. This guy is about as slimy as a slug, and twice as small-minded. 
LimBarf, and the like don't make sense, in terms of valid arguments, facts, etc. They just know they agree with the hate.
But if any "liberal" got teary-eyed and pouty like Back, they would crucify that person with macho ridicule.
some sort of hypocrisy associated with the RWers? I dare say, that's treasonous! 
who has never punched anyone in the face, but I want to start with Glenn Beckkk.  I have had it up to here with these goddamn motherfucking anti-intellectual, mouth breathing, self important. cry-baby, drama queen con artists pretending they have a a single fucking credible theory about patriotism! (Sorry--fracking just doesn't cut it--warning: more cursing ahead.) It's Keith Olberman's fault for showing me that "Guide to the Architecture and Statuary of the Hell-bound Communist Progressive Demonic Left." However, Keith also saved me from bursting a blood vessel with his hilarious parody of that idiotic faux exposition: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu... Still, go here and check out these amazingly beautiful works of art: http://www.rockefellercenter.com/index.php... / and then go punch fucking Glenn Beckk in the fucking face. Oh, and if you see Curt Schilling, kick him in the balls and see if his sock bleeds. And can someone please check out and either help out or rec this thread for me so as to get it seen by someone who can help? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu... I'm on a dyslexic mission from dog. Please join my cause. If you can't join me, then please humor me, or at least just let me rant without flames. I've had a lousy fucking day.
know it. They think they are better than those less fortunate. Some even think they were chosen by god to be reich (typo I'll let stand) and powerful. The richer and more powerful, the more god loves them.
The wealthiest person I know personally is a dickhead Major League Baseball pitcher who is the epitome of that attitude. His wife, my cousin, almost immediately devolved into a more RW, stupid, selfish bitch. When her egomaniacal husband got his first huge-money contract, she complained, "Well, it's not as much as people think. You know, he has to buy his own uniforms!"
I kid you not.
Poor dear. I mean, the rest of us all get *our* work clothes for free.
I admire the French.
like a birther at town hall meetings or demonstrations, then let's fucking start shouting! I'm sick of us losing to them because they are batshit crazy and not afraid to show it!
Obama's emails want my help, but I'm not helping to support the lameass legislation that's out there now, much less the ghost of what it is now that will be left by the time anything passes. I will be part of a concerted effort in any way I can, *if* it's fighting for a strong public option lead-in to single payer.
I've written an called my congresscritters over and over, Talking about single payer as the ultimate goal each time, but I don't see that doing any good.
I'm fed up with the Center Right crap. Give me a Progressive party!
These interviews are his chance to lure the former faithful back into the fold, along with the never-ever-gave-up-on-him faithful. Karl Rove has not lost his power, either. Together, they have a chance to rewrite their storybook to have a gloriously happy beginning, middle, and end. And Laura's "positive" tome will be ghostwritten by Rove, either directly or by his mojo hand.
enjoyed the attempt regardless. Thanks!
strength before the next serious book. Or at least something that won't make me despondent.
I've been considering at these:
Politics Lost: How American Democracy Was Trivialized by People Who Think You're Stupid Joe Klein
Everything You Think You Know About Politics...and Why You're Wrong by Kathleen Hall Jamieson
The Great Derangement: A Terrifying True Story of War, Politics, and Religion at the Twilight of the American Empire by Matt Taibbi
F.U.B.A.R.: America's Right-Wing Nightmare Sam Seder & Stpehen Sherrel
I know you don't know me, but I'm progressive and agnostic (probably atheist.)
Any recommendations? Any of these secret rw crap I should avoid?
I've read Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them and loved it. Though, come to think of it, that made me depressed, too. I guess that's par for the course when looking at politics in America in the last 8 years, at least.
out on a limb. I tend more and more to feel as though there is some truth in the idea that to discriminate against anyone, for any reason, may be unfair. It may well be true that the idea of "free will" is bullshit, and if that is so, we shouldn't give the good guys credit or advantage, nor disparage or punish the bad ones. We are born not only with certain abilities and disabilities, but also into certain positive and negative circumstances, and these have a huge effect on what we do and become in life. Progressives seem far more willing, in general, to acknowledge these facts, but we still believe that a person can rise above limitations and should rise above that which makes them, well, Republicans.  We would like to believe that the arrogance, selfishness, willful ignorance, dishonesty, bigotry, greed, and other such characteristics can be overcome. We hate these characteristics and the people who embody them (not all of us, but I sure do, and I know I'm not alone.) We believe that somehow those people could and should eradicate those characteristics from themselves. Or at least that there is some way that those characteristics could be eradicated. To believe that such people have no power over their actions, which emanate logically from the characteristics of their personalities and the circumstances of their lives, would leave us with a moral dilemma, of sorts. We'd have to accept that they are doing exactly as they must do, and either pardon them for anything bad they do or lock them away (or perhaps force them into brainwashing programs until more civilized behavior could be expected to come naturally.) Neither of those options is acceptable, so neither can we accept the premise that people have little control over their behavior. Instead, we believe that the bigots should realize that bigotry is wrong and become un-bigoted. The greedy should realize that greed is wrong and become un-greedy. Etc. Along those same lines, people who are overweight should overcome whatever it is in their nature and/or nurture that makes them overweight. How? Well, using will power and determination! But what if part of their nature and/or nurture is that they are short on the amount and/or particular brand of will power and determination that one needs to combat weight gain and support weight loss? Well, then they should get some! Right? If fatties weren't blessed with determination and will power, that's their own damn fault. Right? You see, we can't just accept that everyone in life is doing the best they can with what they've got, even though that may very well be true, because then we'd have to accept bigots and criminals and fear-mongering Alaskan guvners and NASCAR fans and religious zealots and innocent-animal killers and book banners and morons. And, to be fair, we'd have to stop bestowing favored social and economic status on those who were blessed with the ability to look fab in designer fashions or throw a baseball really fast or create beautiful art or write a good story or perform heart surgery or give an inspiring speech. We can't endorse, or possibly even imagine, a society which refused to reward or punish that which may very well be out of the individual's control. How could that possibly work? And I'm not saying for sure that it's true, the idea that we're all doing the best we can with what we've got, but I do tend to believe it. Personally, I am not as I would like to be. And part of that is that I am not a person who has the ability to become that person. And believe me, I've tried. I've put all the determination and will power I have into being a better person, but here I am, still falling well short of all I wish to be.
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