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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Wed Aug 03rd 2011, 02:38 PM
conversation about jobs and job creation? How about it alleged leaders, where is the wall to wall news coverage about people in need of jobs and the suffering that families are going through because they can't find work and all of their benefit have been exhausted? Where are the JOBS? The investment banks were helped, wall street was helped, the automotive industry was helped, the rich got their continued tax cuts, so they were as usual, helped. Where's the help for main street and the poor? All we seem to get are cuts, cuts and more cuts to benefits. Why is everyone in government and in their corporate owned media talking about everything and anything other than jobs? Why not just tell us the truth in words, your actions are speaking loud and clear.....you don't give a flying fuck if those who have no jobs get them or not!..............you don't need their votes anymore, do you. As long as this government is owned and run by the corporations, the days of what we the people need are over.........why don't you just say it, most of us already know it.
Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sat Jul 30th 2011, 03:26 PM
Sure, they might take a slight hit in some of their stocks and other investments, but in the long run, with their vast holdings, and their mixed and varied portfolios, they probably have a point related to financial security.

The people I refer to, earn between $3million-$50million per year in "earned" income. Each owns several high priced, high powered, looking good automobiles. Each own several pieces of real estate and or rental property, and most travel by private jet or first class commercial when they absolutely must.

During this manufactured debt crisis, I have been privy to many conversations related to the "working stiffs" by those who are the so called job creators, the chosen ones, the rich and powerful. They usually start with the comment, "they should have made better choices in life," next comes a comment like "they should all stop smoking crack" (with laughter), then comes the usual, "they should have been born to "better" families," and then the rude comment, "it looks like little people are going to take another hit, this just might really bring out the torches and pitch forks this time," again, (with laughter), some laughing so hard, that they tear up.

These particular entitled, actually believe that nothing can or will effect their lives. They joke about having all their wealth, but when the time comes, they're still taking their Social Security if it's there, if it's not there, oh well, then too bad for those who will suffer, they know they won't.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid mean absolutely nothing to them, but if they can take even more from a system that has already made them rich, and "if" Social Security is still there, then why not take even more? It's not an earned benefit or an entitlement for them and they don't need it, it's just another thing to take (if it's still there), for those who do nothing but take.

I have also heard discussions about, (if and when the market crashes again), of picking up bargains on wall street that will make them even richer when things once again turn around, especially if the Republicans keep the House, or can take the Senate and the Presidency. With laughter, once again, they talk about a Bachmann Presidency and how easy it would be to further manipulate the office of the Presidency and the "religious wackos" in this country to further push religion into politics for the purpose of causing more division in the country. It is truly sickening to hear these things, especially the laughter, since real lives are involved in this game they play.

They also comment about the possibility of future violence from those in the valleys (as they live high in the hills of hollywood) and how some of those beneath them and farther away to the N,S,E and W, "might at some point riot with each other" (with laughter), but "they will only hurt and kill each other and destroy their own neighborhoods, "that's how stupid they are."

Their homes are well protected and so are the homes they overlook, the homes of the rich and powerful in the flatlands of Beverly Hills, and in Bel Air, in and around Sunset Blvd, Santa Monica Blvd Rexford, N Roxbury, Bedford, Camden Rodeo, Beverly and Canon Drives all the way to West Hollywood. These areas would be well protected from any pitch fork or lighted torch moment which they know, will most likely never come.....so there's laughter and more laughter and not one thought of how obnoxious they sound and how pathetic they look.

So, no matter what happens, the wealthy and powerful who I have had the displeasure of hearing speak their views, believe that they will be the spectators in a Roman Arena watching for sport, angry, scared citizens, possibly fighting and killing each other, because the rich and powerful, and their corporations, control the government, the corporate government gives them more and more tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax subsidies,and all of those tax breaks are tacked on to the deficit for the rest of us to pay, while there are more and more cuts to social program for the poor, middle class and already suffering to pay for these tax cuts for the rich, the powerful and their corporations most likely with more cuts to benefits for the majority.

More and more austerity measures for those who can least afford them, and more and more of our tax money, give to those who don't need it in tax breaks......

So these rich, joke and tell stories, and they laugh at the misfortune of others brought on by their greed, their wars, their push to kill needed social programs, their push to further deregulate for more profit on wall street and banks even when they know, that deregulation allows those in power on wall street and in investment banks, to create situations and products that they know are bad products most likely to fail, where they gain further wealth whether or not these products succeed or fail.

Without regulations, the rich and powerful rig the system so they can gain wealth at both ends when things succeed and when things they know are going to fail, do fail, and crash, as the rest of us get to suffer the results of deregulation and the lack of consumer protections, like the results of the 2008 crash that we are still suffering through, that the rich and powerful caused, and that our tax money was used to bail out, and they laugh. They laugh because they have no compassion, they laugh because they are weak, they laugh because they'll most likely never know a moment in their lives of financial struggle, of poverty, of not being able to afford to feed their families. They laugh because they have health care, they have property, they have investments and their futures are protected. They laugh because they don't fear growing older and having nothing. They laugh because they know the rich and powerful control almost everything and they are part of that gang. They laugh with relief, that they are not one of us.

One of the last things I heard in a conversation last week that really stunned me was, one of these multimillionaires said, "I can't tell you how glad I am for us, that none of us are one of "those" regular working stiffs." With other multimillionaires at the Venue replying: "you got that right," "only in a bad nightmare," another replied, "I'd kill myself first," a third chimed in, "We were too smart, we've got brains and talent thank God," and my favorite, from the biggest mouth of all, "you only get what you deserve in this life." More laughter and more commentary continued, as I continued to direct things from my headset to others, directed to me from those poor pieces of shit, rich only in money and power, but without a shred of human decency or compassion in their bones, no real happiness, most of the time out of control and angry, trying each day to micromanage and control everything and everyone around them, talking behind each others backs, barking out orders, screaming at the top of their lungs at times and crying in despair and not coming out of their house in the hills for days, when they don't win another Emmy Award that they thought they deserved.......... and they're laughing at the rest of us.
Lou

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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Thu Jul 14th 2011, 08:25 PM
Since the New Deal, Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue of
concern to ordinary Americans:

Social Security,
Medicare,
Medicaid,
The debt ceiling,
the war in Vietnam,
the war in Iraq
equal rights,
civil liberties,
church- state separation,
consumer issues,
public education,
reproductive freedom,
national health care,
labor issues,
gun policy,
campaign-finance reform,
the environment,
Immigration issues,
Election and voting issues,
American History,
The interpretation of our Constitution
GLBT issues,
and tax fairness.

And on almost every issue brought before the Supreme Court as of late, big

business/corporations have come out on top of ordinary citizens because justices

like Clarence Thomas take bribes (gifts) lol, and do not recuse themselves from

hearing cases where those involved have bribed his fat ass or recusing himself

from hearing cases for corporations who employ his bride Gin Gin.


Also, the Republicans seem to have only two motivations for what they do to this

nation, the desire for more power and more money with which they mostly use to

get themselves and other Republicans re-elected. They no longer even try to

hide their contempt for the majority of the citizenry as Citizens United gave

corporations person hood and the corporations, (the Republicans masters) and main constituency, can now

openly give as much bribe money as they want to rig elections and buy our

government for their own nefarious desires and deeds.


No political group or party could remain so consistently wrong

by accident. Their God is money and power and their means are evil.


The only rational conclusion I can come to is that, despite their cynical "family values"

propaganda, the Republican Party, with its fact challenged FOX/GOP Media along

with the Koch brothers, the Waltons, Wall Street, ALEC, The Banksters,the

Republican Chamber of Commerce and all of the other corporations and their

Republican operatives are a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the

American people in favor of plutocratic, corporate interests, and absolutist

religious groups.

It should be obvious to anyone who is paying attention and who uses facts in

their critical thinking rather than parroting propaganda talking points, that we

the people are under attack, the United States Government is working for and

doing the bidding of the corporations, the rich and powerful in our country.

The voice of the average American is ignored time and time again, as those with

the money, power and well funded lobby's take what they want even if that harms

the majority and causes pain and suffering for the masses. They have no

compassion, no conscience and no integrity. So let's look at some of the "So

whats" that the Republicans, their corporate benefactors and their many

operatives seem to say with their obvious lack of concern and their dastardly

actions each day.

Republicans, the corporations, the corporate media and the super wealthy basically say to the rest of us:

So what if you are homeless,
so what if you can't pay your bills,
so what if you can't feed your children,
so what if you can't see a doctor,
so what if you can't get needed medications,
so what if more and more people need food stamps,
so what if tax cuts for the rich causes earned benefits for the masses to be cut for many who
have worked hard and paid into the system for many years,
so what if someone who is white and wealthy and who steals 3 billion dollars
gets 40 months in jail while someone who is poor and black and steals a 100
dollar bill from a bank gets 15 years in prison,
so what if Unions are busted,
so what if unemployment is at 15-20%,
so what if tent cities are popping up all over this nation,
So what if you want a paper trail to verify the vote, it would be harder for us to steal elections that way,
so what if women are treated as second class citizens,
so what if Republicans are passing laws in states that they control to
disenfranchise voters,
so what if our elections are being rigged like the recent Kloppenburg/Prosser
vote in Wisconsin,
So what if we ship your jobs overseas,
So what if your job provides no benefits,
So what if people are suffering,
So what if people are dying,
So what if people are scared,
So what if they can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps,
So what if they chose that kind of life,
So what if they can't get contraception,
So what if they can't vote,
So what if we are liars,
So what if we are hypocrites,
So what if we seem psychotic and act like sociopaths,
So what if some of us are narcissists,
So what if most of us are millionaires,
So what if most of us get free health care,
So what if we'll all get pensions for life as we try to gut your Social Security,
So what if gas prices are high,
So what if the masses can't afford to buy food,
So what if people are living in their cars,
So what if people are angry,
So what if they don't like it,
So what, what can they do to me?,
So what they're not my children,
So what they're all lazy anyway,
So what, they'd rather collect unemployment than to work,
So What if they need,
So what if they cry,
So what if women don't want to be told what to do with their bodies,
So what if gays want to get married,
So what if illegal immigrants want a path to citizenship,
So what if you want gun control,
So what if you don't like our wars, get over it, we get rich from wars,
So what if some would rather die, then let them die and it will rid us of the surplus
population,
So what if they believe in God
So what if they can't afford infant formula and diapers,
So what if they can't find work,
So what if their meek and weak and crybabies,
So what if they can't make it,
So what if they don't like the cuts for the poor and the tax breaks for the
rich,
So what if families are breaking up,
So what if animals are being abandoned and killed in shelters,
So what if they are losing hope, our first priority is to make this President a
one term President,
So what if we default on our loans,
So what if our homes are foreclosed on,
So what if we cause most of the problems in this country, we still get elected or if we can't get elected we steal the election, don't like it? Too bad........whatcha gonna do about it America?
So what if we're kicked out of our apartments,
So what if we go into a double dip recession or even a depression,
So what if they don't like us, what can they do to us? We have the power and
the money and the powerful corporations on our side,
So what if major corporations don't pay any taxes,
So what if there are all kinds of tax loopholes for big business and
millionaires and billionaires where they pay little or no taxes,
So what if the teabaggers were our latest useful idiots,
So what if they're all screaming online about our criminal behavior,
So what if we torture,
So what if we spy on our own people,
So what if we hold people without trial,
So what if the justice system is unfair, life is unfair.

You see, Republicans just don't care about this country or about you and me.

There are really only 2% of the country the Republicans need, they don't

necessarily care about them, but they need them and they are the super wealthy,

the very wealthy, and the corporations. They also need the Supreme Court and a

dumbed down angry base and nation. They need some enabling from the Democrats

and a population too distracted, depressed, scared, poor or sick to do anything

about it. And finally, a corporate media to spread propaganda, lies, and

stories to the nation distracted and divided as they continue their march

forward destroying the lives of the majority to enhance the lives of themselves

and those at the top.


Those are just some of the "so whats" I have heard the Republicans either actually say or that they

have intimated to us, the majority, in words and dastardly deeds. They just don't care

because they think there is nothing we can do. They believe we are so

distracted by other things, that we won't take a stand as a country and as a

people for what is right. They think we're too stupid, too lazy and too beaten

down to rise up. Are they right?


Just open your eyes and take a close look at what the governors in Wisconsin,

Florida, Ohio, Arizona, Texas et al are doing to their states and you will see

the Republican plan, their grand vision for this entire nation if they should

get their chance either by winning the vote, or by most likely, stealing elections. Just recently

in Wisconsin, the Republicans with the help of Koch money, funded fake Democrats

to run against real democrats to try and stop the recall election from taking

place. Thankfully, they failed, but these people are playing for keeps and

Republicans will do and say anything to maintain power, keep their corporate

masters happy and further move this country in a direction where only a few will

have everything and the rest of us will be at the mercy of their psychotic rule.

Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Thu Apr 28th 2011, 08:03 PM
mostly Republican strongholds, with tornadoes?

After Haiti was hit with by a devastating earthquake in 2010, killing over 200,000 innocent people, Pat Robertson claimed it was God punishing that country for its “pact with the devil.”

The Texas-based Republican activist Pastor John Hagee famously blamed New Orleans’ devastation by Katrina on “homosexuals.”

Jerry Falwell, in the wake of 9/11, said the attack that killed over 3,000 Americans was God’s way of punishing us for harboring abortionists, feminists, and the ACLU.

And just recently, Glenn Beck said that the earthquakes,tsunami and nuclear disaster in Japan, was God’s rebuke of that country’s behavior.

"I’ll tell you this (said Beck), whether you call it Gaia or whether you call it Jesus, there’s a message being sent. And that is, "Hey you know that stuff we’re doing? Not really working out real well. Maybe we should stop doing some of it."

Elizabeth Hasselbeck (of the view), helpfully served as an Amen Chorus to Beck, adding,

"I believe God speaks to all of us in many ways."

Ok.

Well, the states hit the hardest by the tornadoes are all Republican strongholds: Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Georgia. Surely, that can’t be a coincidence? Can it?

So, is God punishing these conservative states because they’re not taking care of the poor, the elderly and the sick, as Jesus commanded? Could God be angry about all of the lying and cheating of the citizenry and the pushing of policy that continues to hurt the already suffering?

I doubt we’re going to hear Glenn Beck, John Hagee, Rush Limbaugh or any other allegedly religious, right wing conservative share any speculation about this today or at any other time for that matter. I guess in the final analysis, for them, it's "God's will," and "only HE knows the reasons.

On a more serious note, I sincerely hope that all are safe from further harm and send my condolences to all of the victims families and friends. We have sent a donation to the Red Cross to help with your needs.

Lou

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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Thu Apr 28th 2011, 12:54 PM
I'm a gay man who understands the "not good enough" issue, completely. Yesterday was a sad day in American

history. I am proud to be an American, an American who accepts everyone for who they are. I don't understand, really, the mind set of those who must put others down to make themselves feel better about who and what they are.

Why are they so afraid? What do certain (white men especially), fear from our black brothers and sisters?

Why do they feel the need to dehumanize those, whose only difference, is skin color? I have never understood the hatred, especially from those who allege that they are (Christians) or have some other, chosen religious belief system, and yet they hate.

Those who choose to live their lives this way, the birchers, the birthers, the tenthers, the swiftboaters, the whitepower crazies, the secessionists, the Klan, the general all around haters, these are the people who should be ashamed, they are the ones who should be ostracized, they should be todays "Lepers".

They are "Un American", traitors to this country, keeping it divided and ugly. Spewing hate and lies all across this nation each and every day, pitting white against black, black against latino, Christian against Muslim, and Democrat against Republicon. I can think of many more, but you get the point.

As for the media, they are nothing less than charlatans, keeping hate alive in this country for their corporate masters, the white man millionaires and billionaires who control the information forced on all of us.

Every time they give air time to a hateful person, a racist, to spew their lies and propaganda, they are no better than the racist themselves. They foment hate, push for the crazy in order to get ratings and do no good for this nation.

We no longer have news organizations, we have talking heads who read script prepared by those who want to push this nation in a certain direction, the stories are designed to get reaction, not to impart the truth. There are very few Journalists left, who go out, get the "facts" and share them with We the People to educate and update us on what is going on in our country and around the world.

Today, we get propaganda, lies, half truths, innuendo and prepared comments, usually just read into the camera by a person to get their corporate pay check at the end of the week. The only way to get the facts these days, is to search for them on the internet and validate all information spoken at us by those on corporate television.

There have been a lot of ugly, sad, firsts, since our first black President won the election to lead this nation, and most have been lies and outright racist, and anyone who isn't in denial, or a racist themselves, knows that this is the truth.

The first time I ever saw open carrying of firearms at a political gathering, where the President was going to speak, our President was black,

the first time any issue related to birth documents occurred, our President was black,

the first time birther bills appeared in several states, our President was black,

the first time foreskins were ever considered as legitimizing a person to run for the Presidency, our President was black,

the first time a President was called out for "putting his feet" on the "White Peoples" desk, the president was black,

there's always been "driving while black", but I don't think the President has to worry about that one anymore, but I'm sure if President Obama decided to drive down Pennsylvania Avenue tomorrow, that would also be a first for a President, a black President of course,

the first time any President has been portrayed as a monkey, the President was black,

the first time anyone ever shouted from the floor of congress "you lie" in utter disrespect for a President, the President was black,

the first time a President was called a racist, the President was black,

the first time "second amendment remedies" were talked about, in case their white, racist, votes didn't win the election, the President was black,

the first time people protested with signs that said, "this time we came unarmed, the President was black,

even in the primaries, remember those "super delegates" when did you ever hear of "Super delegates" other than when the candidate running, was black?

I mean come on people, I could do this all day and it doesn't make me feel good about the white race of haters and ignorant racists in this country, it really makes me ill.

I am sorry for this country, that with all of the past battles, fights and wars that we have in engaged in over the years, the hard fought wins for equality and fairness in this country, that this is how far we've sunk. And with all of the current battles going on in the world, some here, choose to battle among us, their own people, to hate, to disenfranchise, to make less than, to make them feel as though they are not good enough.

When, if ever, will they stop blowing the dog whistles of hate, using the code words for hate, and committing the violence of hate? Will we ever really become a united people, in the alleged, United States of America?

Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Tue Apr 26th 2011, 11:38 AM
destroying our country. I have discovered the following disorder in Republicons and their constituency. Until now, it has been called "dissocial personality disorder", similar to antisocial personality disorder, but the Republicons and their followers seem to fit the profile so perfectly, I thought a name change was in order to try and explain their total disregard for 98% of us to do the bidding of the 2% at the top all the while causing great suffering and pain for the majority. I think I have made the necessary discovery that explains it all.

The World Health Organization's ICD-10 defines a conceptually similar disorder to antisocial personality disorder called (F60.2)Dissocial personality disorder. I call it, the "Republicon Party and their constituents personality disorder" Most of these loons have more than three of the following, but only 3 are needed to fit the profile. How many Republicans, that you have experienced in life, can you say don't have this disorder? I can't think of any, they all seem to suffer from it, and then make our country suffer the consequences from their illness.

"Dissocial Republican and Constituent Personality disorder" is characterized by 3 or more of the following:

1.Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy.

2.Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.

3.Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships.

4.Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.

5.Incapacity to experience guilt and to profit from experience, particularly punishment.

6.Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict.

7.Persistent irritability.

The statements above are not meant to be factual, and I'm sorry if I gave anybody that impression, but to me, they are. I attended a John Kyl liar seminar last summer lol.

Lou




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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sun Apr 24th 2011, 02:09 PM
Credit: People For Real Change

Palin post, the ugly, factual truth about an American woman from Alaska: a fake, phony, and one of the biggest frauds to have entered American politics, ever. There's a lot of (R)Scott Walker (WI) in this woman and in many of the Republican polititcians in positions of power, in this new, corporate, millionaire, billionaire ruled America.

Sarah Palin actually has a LOT of political experience -- a dozen years in office. And during all of that time, she has consistently abused her power, feathered her own nest, lied, flirted with a radical secessionist group, and used government to reward her friends and punish her enemies.

One thing she is NOT is a regular Joe (or Jane) Sixpack. Palin majored in Broadcast Journalism, worked in TV, and was trained by Newt Gingrich's GOPAC political action committee over a decade ago, which is why she's so good at political debates, delivering speeches and not answering questions.

"“I'm still proud of Sarah, but she scares the bejeebers out of me.”" - Laura Chase, her 1996 campaign manager

"She's the world's worst multi-tasker. She'll have a cell phone in one hand, the BlackBerry in the other while she is reading two position papers. You have to tell her prior to the debate, 'Put that down, breathe deep.' They are not going to know that." - a former aide

See the actual post at: Real People For Real Change

Quote Sources -- Back

Diva quote -- "Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says", by Dana Bash, Peter Hamby and John King, CNN.com, October 25, 2008

"Political Punch", by Jake Tapper, ABC-News Blog, October 28, 2008

"The Palin Problem", By Jon Meacham, NEWSWEEK, Published Oct 4, 2008 (October 13, 2008 issue)

"Biden Attacks McCain and Giuliani Over Troop Surge", by Brian Wheeler,ABC-News Political Radar Blog, November 26,2007

"Record Refutes Palin's Sudan Claim -- Palin Administration Against Sudan Divestment Before It Was For It, Documents Show", By JUSTIN ROOD, ABC-News The Blotter, October 3, 2008

Abuse of Power (TrooperGate) Sources -- Back

"Branchflower Report (on Troopergate) to the Alaska Legislative Council", by Stephen Branchflower, October 10, 2008

"Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes", by Jo Becker, Peter S. Goodman and Michael Powell, New York Times, September 13, 2008 pA1

"Supreme Court to hear Troopergate appeal", By SEAN COCKERHAM, Anchorage Daily News, October 3, 2008

"Colberg files suit to quash subpoenas TROOPERGATE: State attorney general wants them ruled invalid", By SEAN COCKERHAM, Anchorage Daily News, September 26th, 2008

"Troopergate Documents", by the Anchorage Daily News (an archive)

"Palin Had Another Private E-Mail Account, Company Says", by Karl Vick, Washington Post, October 1, 2008

Luxury Shopping With Public Money Sources -- Back

"Top Salary in McCain Camp? Palin’s Makeup Stylist", By Michael Luo, New York Times, October 24, 2008

AP Investigation: Palin got zoning aid, gifts" By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, Associated press, September 29, 2008

"Palin Billed State For Nights At Home. Alaska Taxpayers Also Funded Family's Travel, Documents Show", by James Grimaldi and Karl Vick, Washington Post, September 9, 2008

"RNC shells out $150K for Palin fashion", By JEANNE CUMMINGS, POLITICO website,10/22/08 12:35 AM EDT

"Palin Adds to Wardrobe in Reno", by Anjeanette Damon, Reno Gazette-Journal: Inside Nevada Politics Blog, October 23, 2008

Supports Right Wing Terrorism Sources -- Back

Video Message to Alaska Independence Party, by Sarah Palin, 2008 (on Youtube)

"Members of 'Fringe' Alaskan Independence Party Incorrectly Say Palin Was a Member in 90s; McCain Camp and Alaska Division of Elections Deny Charge", By Jake Tapper, ABC-News Political Punch, September 1, 2008

Alaska Independence Party website

"Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed 'Hatred For The American Government'; Cursed 'Damn Flag', By Greg Sargent, Talking Points Memo, September 2, 2008

Audiotape of Joe Vogler interview, 1991, from the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks

"Remains of Alaska Separatist Are Identified",New York Times, October 15, 1994

"Freedom Fighter -- Alaskan Independence Party chairwoman Lynette Clark talks about why she doesn't identify herself as an American, and about her kindred spirit Sarah Palin.", by David Talbot, Salon.com , September 10, 2008

"Another AIP Official Says Palin Was at 1994 Convention", By Jake Tapper, ABC-News Political Punch, September 2, 2008 " ", by , ,
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Thu Mar 31st 2011, 08:11 PM
Explaining Birther Myth, Trump Says He Knows People On Wall Street Who Commit ‘Fraud’ And ‘Change Documents’

Twice-bankrupted casino owner Donald Trump has made questioning Obama’s birthplace a “pivotal part” of his supposed presidential run, but because Trump’s concerns about Obama’s birth certificate have been asked and answered years ago, the reality TV boss has been forced to resort to increasingly bizzare justifications for his doubts. Last night, Trump told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly that he questions the veracity of Obama’s birth certificate because he knows plenty of people who can easily forge documents to commit fraud:

TRUMP: Bill, I grew up with Wall Street geniuses. What they do in terms of fraud, and how they change documents.

So he potentially knows some of the people on wall street who have defrauded all of us out of our futures?

Of course, securities fraud is a federal criminal offense, punishable by up to 25 years in prison. This type of fraud is also a serious and pervasive problem. From Enron to WorldCom to the Bernie Maddoff scandal, “Wall Street geniuses” have defrauded Americans out of billions of dollars, causing economic havoc. More recently, banks have been implicated in the so-called “robo-singing” scandal, where bank employees didn’t even review mortgage documents they were signing, such as foreclosure orders.

But if Trump is aware that his friends were committing fraud or forgery, why didn’t he do anything about it? Did he witness fraud? Did he ever posses a forged document? (If so, that too could be a felony). Or did he let his friends defraud people and perhaps take a little for himself?
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Wed Mar 30th 2011, 05:03 PM
Here are just a few to avoid, I keep the list with me all the time and share it with anyone who doesn't want to inadvertantly support companies that produce products that buy our government to elect Wisconsin Gov Walker types who will try to kill Unions and end collective bargaining (among other nefarious) things.

We have the real power, the power of consumer purchasing.

IF YOU BUY THESE PRODUCTS, YOU SUPPORT UNION BUSTING AND RICH, POWERFUL REPUBLICONS BUYING ELECTIONS.

KOCH BROTHERS REPBULICON SUPPORTING PRODUCTS

(Georgia-Pacific products)
Angel Soft toilet paper
Brawny paper towels
Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups
Mardi Gras napkins and towels
Quilted Northern toilet paper
Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper
Sparkle napkins
Vanity fair napkins
Zee napkins
Georgia-Pacific paper products and envelopes
All Georgia-Pacific lumber and building products
(INVISTA Products)
Lycra
Stainmaster Carpet
Thank you for your attention.
From - http://thebluehighway.com/?p=2554
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sat Mar 26th 2011, 01:15 PM
Last year, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker ally, Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David(Women are bitches) Prosser cast the key vote in favor of a “justice-for-sale” ethics rule written by two corporate lobbying groups. Thanks to right wing partisan Justice Prosser, his colleagues are not required to recuse themselves from cases involving one or more of their major campaign donors. Now, Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (WMC), one of the lobbying groups that wrote the rule Prosser rubber stamped into law, is rewarding him by raising “unlimited and undisclosed” funds to keep "the rubber stamping Republicon", (Justice Prosser) on the Wisconsin State Supreme Court to continue doing the bidding of his Republicon, Koch, corporate, lobbyist friends:

Dear Wisconsin Citizens,

The ruling Republicons have been openly attempting to break Unions since their election in November, using their activist majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and grinding our democracy to a halt because Governor Scott Walker has refused to listen to the voices of Wisconsin citizens who want his extreme, destructive, illegal dictatorial rule to cease and desist. JoAnne Kloppenburg will need a strong TV ad campaign to educate the public about Justice Prosser’s radical right wing union busting support, which is in stark contrast to the common sense and law abiding approach of candidate JoAnne Kloppenburg. And, we will need to educate the public about Justice Prossers radical, one sided agenda, and how the Walker/Fitzgerald Union busters need to keep Prosser on the court to continue to advance and protect the radical decisions being made by Walker and his Republicon ruling class.

Please vote for JoAnne Kloppenburg on April 5th, 2011, as workers rights and many other rights are at stake as long as Wisconsin Republicon Supreme Court Justice Prosser continues his radical, right wing, one sided rulings against the majority of the Wisconsin Citizenry.

WMC (Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce), whose board of directors includes a high ranking executive with a Koch Industries company, has a record of spending exorbitant sums of money to ensure that the state supreme court is friendly to powerful corporate Republicon interest groups. In 2008, WMC spent $1.2 million to replace former Justice Louis Butler with an obscure conservative judge after Butler sided against wealthy interest groups in three court decisions. Butler is now an Obama nominee for a federal trial judgeship.

Moreover, WMC’s efforts to buy up seat after seat on the state supreme court for Republicons, would have been illegal just a few years ago. Wisconsin banned corporations from buying state elections in 1905, but that law effectively ceased to exist when the right leaning Supreme Court opened the floodgates of corporate campaign funds in its infamous Citizens United decision. A vote for JoAnne Kloppenburg is a vote for Justice and the rule of law, a vote however, for Wisconsin Republicon Justice Prosser, is a vote for continued, destructive, one sided, rubber stamping of Walker/Fitzgeralds extreme, radical, Republicon agenda for total rule of a once free and trusting Wisconsin people. Do Wisconsin voters want the rule of law applied by an unbiased judge, or do they want the rule of Republicon/Walker/Fitzgerald/Koch Klan/ seat stealer Justice Prosser and the bought and paid for Wisconsin Supreme Court?
Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Wed Mar 23rd 2011, 01:52 PM
Republicon/Koch machine from destroying your state and eventually this country. A vote for JoAnne Kloppenburg for Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice is just the first step in taking back your government and your state. Your only other alternative is to not vote,(which is not an option), as we see where that gets us. The other option, is to re-elect David Prosser, who thinks it's ok to call women in power "Bitches" when they disagree with him. Justice David Prosser, cannot be trusted to rule fairly on all issues, especially issues related to women since he feels that women can "goad" him into bad behavior and name calling. Justice Prosser needs to be retired from his seat and JoAnne Kloppenburg should fill this bigots seat as soon as possible after the vote. Many issues will be taken up by the Wisconsin Supreme Court in the near future, especially issues related to Gov Walkers unlawful conduct related to Union Busting and his covert relationship with the Koch Klan.

Wisconsin will need a Justice who will keep an open mind and rule fairly. I Think that Justice Prosser has proven that he is neither fair or civil. A vote for JoAnne Kloppenburg is a vote for fair rulings rather than Republicon rubber stamping.
Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sat Mar 19th 2011, 05:53 PM
and continue to do, to wake up the American people to their extreme

agendas and for helping the Democrats to start a movement, that without

your hateful, stupidity, might not have begun. ♫"Thank you very ,

very, very, much"!♫

War and Tax cut bonuses for the "powerful" millionaires and

billionaires can always somehow be funded. Funding for the poor, middle

class, infrastructure and so on.......must "always" be cut back, or

funding ended completely to "cut the deficit" that allegedly,

"President Obama" created lol. Everything to help the average

American citizen gets the axe, while anything that further enriches

the Republicon, corporate, war machine, gets funding. This country

is "broke" we are told, but when it comes to selective wars and

$800 Billion tax cut bonuses for the rich, for some reason, we

become "unBroke".


I am stunned at the shortsighted, regressive, manipulative behavior

of the corporations who have purchased our government to do their

bidding. If the corporations finally get "everything" they can

get, everything they want, and finally destroy any means by which the majority can earn

income to purchase their products, what then?


Where does this go, if the corporations and their bought and paid

for Republicon and Democrat scum destroy our ability to purchase,

to pay our bills, to get health care and to see a future where

we are included and anything is possible?


Just how long will it be, before the only funding "our" government

can find, is for corporations, the rich and military might, as it

destroys everything We the People were told this country stood for

and claimed to be?


Expanded funding for the military, corporations and the rich, and regressive cuts for everyone else,

how could this possibly help, to facilitate a prosperous, positive outlook for the future of

We the People?


The Unions, our Unions, our majority, We the People, must win this

"war", the final battle so to speak, to keep our country free from

the extreme rule of the Republicons, their hate, their media, their draconian agenda and their vision of

a "Christian" nation where only their "god" matters?


I especially want to thank governor Walker, for his dicktatorial style and for

overplaying his hand in Wisconsin. In addition, I want to thank

all of the other Republicon Governors and their operatives, for

their extreme views and proposed policies that have started a

movement against their extreme (and in most cases) "crazy" agendas.

The Republicons (and some Democrats) were counting on us staying in

our malaise, being confused, fighting each other and not waking up

until it was too late. Thankfully, that did not happen.

They lied,
they cheated,
they rigged elections,
they stole elections,
they used dirty tricks,
they rigged the Supreme Court,
they started wars with lies,
they said no to everything good and positive,
they stopped "our" government from doing it's job,
they used Frank Luntz to create focus groups to find words and phrases that sounded horrible about
good policy and positive about their destructive, divisive agenda,
they have attacked Muslims
they have attacked black people
they have attacked the rights of Women,
attacked undocumented workers,
attacked the unemployed,
attacked gays,
attacked universal health care,
attacked the EPA,
attacked teachers,
attacked public radio,
attacked the poor,
attacked the middle class,
and attacked Unions.
They and their operatives are an attack machine,

I don't think there is anything or anyone, except the greedy

corporations and the rich/powerful that they haven't ATTACKED.

This is all they've got, their "policies" are hateful and destructive,

they do not have the majority on their side, so they ATTACK.


All of you here at DU know, that I could go on all day about their

attack on this country using Citizens United, the Chamber of

Commerce, Fox Gop Fraudcasting, the Extreme Supreme Court, and thousands of radio stations

across the country, to push their destructive, extreme Republicon

propagandized, regressive agenda.


They strategically plot,

and they create phony, "red meat" stories for their base,

passed on by their bought and paid for media and corporate shills,

because they have nothing else.


They're not nice, they're not smart, they're not honest and they're "un American".

They have been on the wrong side of everything good that has happened in this country

and they have shown time and time again, that they can't and won't govern, but they want to rule.


They try to dictate their evil agenda and use force

by using vast amounts of money from the corporations, to buy our media and force us to hear

only what they want us to hear. They want a dumbed down nation that doesn't think, that they

can manipulate for their own "evil" purposes. If you own the media, then you control the discussion and

most of the information shared with the people. It's their only game, they've got nothing else, and

they know that most of us know it and are starting to stand against it.

It's the main reason we are seeing them go into overdrive with their crazy, they are afraid

and have to move faster with their agenda because of an awakening, angry majority.

This aint no Koch purchased tea party and they know it.


So, with all sincerity, I want to thank all of the regressive, Republicon crazies (you know who you are, and so do we) who have continued to show themselves for who and what they really are. The Democratic movement, to save the middle class, Unions, the poor and all of We the "real" People, could not have happened without you.

I hope, that in the very near future, that all of us, can repay all of you, for all that you have done.
Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Thu Mar 10th 2011, 05:20 PM
And Amend The State Constitution In 2013.

Last night, Wisconsin Senate Republicans abandoned any remaining pretenses that a bill stripping state workers of their collective bargaining rights has anything whatsoever to do with the state’s finances, and rammed the bill through the senate without any Democrats present. Yet even if Gov. Scott Walker (R) succeeds in signing this bill into law, Wisconsin voters have the power to ensure that his victory is short lived.

First, a broad coalition of these voters are circulating petitions to recall the eight GOP state senators who are currently eligible to be removed from office. If just three of these seats are flipped to the Democrats, the GOP will lose control of the state’s upper house.

Second, because Wisconsin law allows any elected official to be recalled after they have served one full year of their term in office, all remaining state legislators and Gov. Walker will be eligible for a recall election next January. If Wisconsin voters wage a successful campaign to fire the state’s anti-worker lawmakers, this bill could be repealed as soon as the snow starts to melt in spring of 2012.

Third, Wisconsin also has the power to ensure that no future lawmakers can repeat Walker’s assault on working families:

Constitutional amendments. SECTION 1. Any amendment or amendments to this constitution may be proposed in either house of the legislature, and if the same shall be agreed to by a majority of the members elected to each of the two houses…and if, in the legislature so next chosen, such proposed amendment or amendments shall be agreed to by a majority of all the members elected to each house, then it shall be the duty of the legislature to submit such proposed amendment or amendments to the people in such manner and at such time as the legislature shall prescribe; and if the people shall approve and ratify such amendment or amendments by a majority of the electors voting thereon, such amendment or amendments shall become part of the constitution

In other words, the Wisconsin Constitution can be amended in a three step process: 1) the current legislature must approve the amendment; 2) after the next election, the new legislature must approve the amendment; 3) the voters must ratify the amendment by a majority vote. Under this procedure, Wisconsin could amend its constitution to permanently protect working families as soon as 2013.

In Ohio, pro-worker lawmakers are already planning a ballot referendum to overrule an anti-worker bill that is moving forward in that state. Wisconsin law will require working families and their supporters to jump through a few more hoops to reverse Walker’s actions. Nevertheless, they unambiguously have the power to repeal Walker’s bill in 2012 and to ensure that similar bills can never become law again in 2013.
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sun Mar 06th 2011, 03:59 PM
to get pledges on behalf of Dragonfli for the laptop computer. If for some reason he cannot approve, no one should hold anything against him, as he has a responsibility to manage this site so that no potential fraud can occur through what could be nefarious "fund raising". It is an obvious possibility here on the internets, and I should have realized that I would need permission, but my emotions dictated my actions and not my usual business like acumen. I apologized to Skinner and I apologize to all of you for putting you in this position. Thank you.
Your friend,
Lou
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Posted by louslobbs in General Discussion
Sat Mar 05th 2011, 02:33 PM
to inject herself into the Wisconsin uprising, pull some rhetoric out of her dirty ass, and then try to make the situation all about herself?
Lou
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