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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Fri May 16th 2008, 06:19 PM
He truly needs to stop this kind of thing for the sake of the party and the sake of his wife. Today, at the first of five campaign events in Kentucky, just days ahead of the May 20 primary here, the former president said the lack of attention to the unseated Michigan and Florida delegates was proof that the party and the political pundits are trying to force Democrats to get in line behind Obama. How dare he continue this tactic of accusing the party of favoritism toward Obama. That is just ...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Fri May 16th 2008, 12:00 AM
The attitudes here are what I see and hear everyday. There is never any truth spoken about the fact that Florida broke the rules on purpose, even though they knew they only had to This article is typical in Florida, even the Florida bloggers never spoke out on the issue. The media spouts the same old rhetoric, that the DNC "disenfranchised" Florida. It is hard to work with the people who sent emails saying to crash the fundraising of the party, which has hurt the 50 state plan which benefit...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Thu May 15th 2008, 06:10 PM
That is what Howard Dean said not only during his campaign, but when he became chairman. Knock on their doors, let them know they don't need to be afraid to be Democrats...paraphrased but closely. From TPM today: Dean was criticized for putting paid staff in Alaska. Also for his staff in MS and Utah and other states. Now this is really something. New polling shows that not one but two scandal-plagued incumbent Republicans are seriously in danger of losing their seats -- and to top it o...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Wed May 14th 2008, 11:40 PM
They were chosen as the Colorado blog to sit with the state delegation in Denver. Each state will have their state blog with them, plus more national and topic blogs to be named. Square State's interview is open, fun, and enlightening. Here are some of the best parts of the long interview. SquareState: When you were here in November, convention CEO Leah Daughtry promised that bloggers were going to be covering the convention in innovative and ground breaking new ways. Could you tell me ...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Wed May 14th 2008, 10:39 PM
I don't think they realize how odd this sounds to keep saying this stuff about a revote. Today Bill Clinton in Montana called again for a revote. He suggests that Obama refused a revote. He went so far today as to say that he thought his wife was "being punished", and then he asks a strange question. Very strange. I have posted this in comments here today and got no response, but it is very odd. He says: And I just ask you all this, do you really believe Florida would be getting this kind...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Wed May 14th 2008, 12:48 PM
I will never forget when Paul Begala made his world famous "picking their noses" comment in regard to Dean's 50 State plan. It was such an awful thing to say. When those folks in MS got their victory last night it came to mind. From Zach Exley at Huff Post at the time: "Yes, he's in trouble, in that campaign managers, candidates, are really angry with him. He has raised $74 million and spent $64 million. He says it's a long-term strategy. But what he has spent it on, apparently, is just h...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Tue May 13th 2008, 10:15 PM
even if she has to lend her campaign more money. I guess that will be good news to those caterers and consultants who are as yet unpaid. One sign told it all tonight as Hillary Rodham Clinton gave her victory speech here at the Charleston Civic Center after decisively winning the West Virginia presidential primary. One side: We are with you Hillary Flip side: Until the last dog dies “I’ll never give up and I’ll stand with you as long as you stand with me,’’ Clinton said in her speech. Sh...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Tue May 13th 2008, 06:28 PM
Bill Clinton did just as Terry McAuliffe did on TV this Sunday. He reinvented the party rules right out loud. There has been too much of this, and everytime I see it I will speak out. Here are the rules: Under the DNC delegate selection rules, if a state party’s plan violates the rule with respect to timing, the number of its pledged delegates—those delegates awarded proportionally to candidates based on the primary or caucus results—is automatically reduced 50%(without any action by the RB...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Mon May 12th 2008, 11:03 PM
It is not honest, and it is not fair to the party. Terry McAuliffe was on Face the Nation last Sunday. While on there he did not tell the truth about the party rules. Here is the video from Red Lasso, a short clip of the interview. Terry McAuliffe on Face The Nation makes some very interesting comments about the DNC rules. Ironic, since he was chairman just before Howard Dean. (Image) He says the DNC controls the delegates, they don't control the "popular vote"...there he goes again....
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Sun May 11th 2008, 11:02 PM
Jake Tapper's Political Punch has some statements Bill Clinton has made in West Virginia the last few days. They are very clear in their intent, and Democrats should not do this to each other. Tapper speaks of what Bill Clinton is doing...he is doing what a candidate usually does to a person in the other party...not our own. He can do the math. He must know that it's quite improbable that his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., will be the Democratic presidential nominee. So what purpose do...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Sat May 10th 2008, 03:42 PM
I wonder if Paul Krugman is aware that he is paraphrasing the talking points used by Paul Begala on CNN this week? Video included. “We cannot win with eggheads and African-Americans,” Begala warned, which got an animated rise out of Brazile, yielding laughter and applause from those in CNN’s studio. CNN host Campbell Brown chimed in, saying of Obama, “Why hasn’t he been able to yet?” Responded Brazile, “Do you think that Barack Obama would be leading in the pledged votes, the delegate vo...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Fri May 09th 2008, 10:06 PM
I have been watching very little TV lately, but today I made an effort to go and watch when I saw a posting here that caught my interest. What Clinton's campaign is doing, not just in her own words, but in Bill's words, in the words of her surrogates on TV.... What they are doing is deliberately spreading anger among us, using racist code words on purpose. The people speaking for her like McAuliffe, Lanny Davis, Ki Ki what's her name, and so many others.... use talking points that are so fa...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Fri May 09th 2008, 07:33 PM
they worry about the economics of that veterans' bill. Yet they are not really concerned about going along with providing funds for continuing the war endlessly. Not so fast, because the part they are raising fiscal responsibility objectives about is…wait for it, because it’s really going to infuriate you…education benefits for veterans. Where was this sort of ethic from Blue Dogs when the Bush administration was asking for billions to be handed over to venal, wasteful, no-bid contract-winni...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Fri May 09th 2008, 03:38 PM
Yes, Alcee Hastings really said that. He is a Clinton surrogate, and I believe a campaign co-chair of the state along with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. He and Bill Nelson filed a lawsuit against The lawsuit was dismissed and they decided not to refile Nelson v Dean. Three guesses how Hasting meant the comment, cause I surely don't know. I would like to think it wasn't snarky. (Image) Alcee Hastings In a stark demonstration of the political shift, U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Miramar, a...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Fri May 09th 2008, 12:49 AM
First off their votes probably won't count anyway, but they are very fearful of offending Republicans by endorsing one or the other. Actually they say it is the rural voters they might offend. Those "rural voters"...whatever the heck group they are realy referring to...are becoming God Almighty important now. You have to remember that Florida is rife with Blue Dog Democrats. It is what makes us so different than other states. They have switched parties so often, they are a blend of both p...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Thu May 08th 2008, 03:49 PM
Good Lord, they do not ever let up. They just sent another letter to Howard Dean, just had a meeting with Barack Obama. The whole bunch of Florida's Congressional Democrats sent it. I must say I don't know why Representative Kathy Castor did not sign the letter to Dean, but I am glad someone refused to do it. There has been enough of this stuff. Democratic members of Florida’s congressional delegation agreed at a closed-door meeting in the Capitol to urge the Democratic Party to reso...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Thu May 08th 2008, 02:39 PM
Has someone told her that Hillary has refused to accept this offer? She is spinning just like does on TV. Ed is really pumping her so far. He asked her why the legislature refused to take up the issue of the revote. He is saying so it was the legislature....she refuses to blame the legislature. He is NOT going to let her blame Obama. Good for him. So now it is civil disobedience against your own effing party? Someone quick...tell her Hillary doesn't approve that message. She wants a...
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Posted by madfloridian in Political Videos
Thu May 08th 2008, 01:22 PM

 
Here is the article from Raw Story about it. I say good for Donna. Democratic strategist Donna Brazile, who managed the campaign of Al Gore in the 2000 election, got into a heated back-and-forth with fellow talking heads on CNN amid discussions of Tuesday’s primary results. Paul Begala, political consultant and former adviser to President Bill Clinton, began by saying, “Some of the commentary tonight kinda bothers me. If point is that there’s a new Democratic Party that somehow doesn’t ne...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Thu May 08th 2008, 12:41 AM
Right. Josh Marshall hits the nail on the head tonight at TPM when he discusses the rumor that the Obama campaign might pay off Hillary's debt. He covers it well. According to the Huffington Post's Tom Edsall and a number of others, one of the possibilities in the offing if Hillary Clinton quickly ends her presidential campaign is that the Obama campaign will not only retire the $10 to $15 million in unpaid campaign related expenses the Clinton campaign owes but will also help the Clinton ...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Wed May 07th 2008, 02:53 PM
This video was just posted in Video Politics forum. It is Ed Schultz on Larry King being honest about Florida's delegates and Debbie Wasserman Schultz spinning her head off and twisting and turning. I have lost all respect for her. And I say thanks to Ed Schultz for taking up for truth and honesty. Here is the full She is in denial that Florida voted 115 to 1 to move up the primary. She is stuck in denial...a pretty permanent state of denial. For someone with her intelligence, how do...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Wed May 07th 2008, 12:24 PM
Is it maybe about that meeting on May 31 with the DNC rules committee? I am just not sure anymore. I read today at TPM that the Clinton campaign's chief strategist said that NC was a success because they won On the Hillary conference call, Hillary chief strategist Geoff Garin made the case for her electability in some of the most explicitly race-based terms I've heard yet. Garin argued that the North Carolina contest, which Obama won by 14 points, represented "progress" for Hillary because...
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Posted by madfloridian in Political Videos
Tue May 06th 2008, 06:57 PM

 
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Tue May 06th 2008, 06:49 PM
Totally fair and totally not taking sides. (Link) He repeats: This is not about Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, it is about our country.
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Tue May 06th 2008, 06:24 PM
and religious private schools. It is a far more dangerous thing than most realize here. It would allow the constitution to be tampered with so vouchers could continue to be given to private religious achools with the use of public money. The extremists in the Florida legislature are not about to give up their drive for their agenda of privatizing the public schools...and doing it by any means possible. But there's more to the story than the headline and the voucher initiative - much, muc...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Tue May 06th 2008, 05:56 PM
For some reason Jake Tapper sounds a little irritated at someone or the other. He seems to disapprove of Dean's outspokenness on McCain. Me...I think it is great. May 06, 2008 4:24 PM Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean took to the CNN airwaves today to declare Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., "wrong on the courts, he's wrong on Iraq, he's wrong on the economy, he's wrong on healthcare -- supporting President Bush's veto of the children's healthcare bill. He's even sadly wrong on t...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Tue May 06th 2008, 12:29 AM
Not too long ago here we discussed that the Clinton campaign was actually employing ten people just to keep the superdelegates from defecting. Harold Ickes is in charge of that effort. Aides said time was actually in Mr. Obama’s favor. The longer he demonstrates he can withstand the heat of a national campaign, they say, the more willing party leaders seem to be to embrace him. “What we’re seeing now is a trickle of people making that final decision to publicly commit,” says Jeffrey Berman,...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Mon May 05th 2008, 02:35 PM
There has been so much ugliness directed at Dean from FL and MI and from the Clinton campaign...that it was almost a relief to hear Barack Obama have a INDIANAPOLIS - Speaking a few minutes after Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean at a fundraising dinner this evening, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged the heartburn he and Sen. Hillary Clinton are causing. "I know we are giving him a little bit of stress," Obama said. "But he is handling it with his usual grace, and so I'm very grateful to Gov...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Mon May 05th 2008, 12:15 AM
in the party when one door was closed. I was glad to read this tonight at Huff Post. I have said it shows the real character of a man when they are so viciously treated by the media, even by their own party...to get up and start over again in another way. In the in midst of this chaotic presidential season, while we wait for the people of Guam to help finally crown a Democratic nominee, I took a few moments today to look back on a quieter, simpler time -- and by that I mean, of course, th...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Primaries
Sun May 04th 2008, 12:56 PM
First, I only partially agree with what Howard Dean said on Fox today. It is not on here until this evening, but I read this at The Hill. Dean is right. But he leaves out that our own Democrats are doing it, too. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Sunday that Republicans are using “hate and divisiveness” to win elections. Dean argued that the use of Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) former pastor Jeremiah Wright in GOP ads in local races is “race baiting.” “When you star...
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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Sun May 04th 2008, 10:54 AM
From Huffington Post with Video. It does not come on here until tonight. Way to go, Howard Dean. "Host Chris Wallace tried to get Dean to bash MoveOn and Daily Kos, saying they were "using words about you guys showing up here as weak, idiotic, stupid. How do you respond to the left wing?" But Dean avoided taking the bait" WALLACE: The left wing of your party is in a snit over all these Democrats appearing on Fox. In fact, the head of MoveOn.org had this to say about Democrats on Fox. "It l...
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