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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Thu Mar 15th 2007, 03:45 PM
Does that sound familiar? Hmmm...let's see. I believe James Carville said it...yes, that's it. And then Harold Ford became head of the DLC since the DNC was taken.

And then Harold Ford became a Fox News consultant recently in addition to being DLC chairman.

Just like Doug Schoen, who is/was part of Penn Schoen Berland, the polling company that works for Hillary. Well, Doug Schoen is a Fox News Consultant now.

That is THIS Doug Schoen.....

Penn, Schoen & Berland, Mark Penn a pollster for Hillary. Just in Venezuela.

And he wants Howard Dean out and Harold Ford in. Goodness, are we seeing a pattern here? Howard Dean out...Harold Ford in. Hmm....mm..

Doug Schoen's book

"Pollster Doug Schoen, the longtime partner of Clinton strategist Mark Penn, has harsh words for Howard Dean and the Netroots in his forthcoming book, The Power of the Vote.

Schoen, who left Penn, Schoen & Berland at the end of last year, advises Democrats to move to the center, and calls Dean' style of politics "a depressing reminder that old habits die hard."

He deplores the fact that "Democrats like Howard Dean are still channeling Bella Abzug thirty-plus years after she flamed out with New York's overwhleming Democratic electorate."

"Democrats like Harold Ford -- not Howard Dean -- should be chairmen of the Democratic National Committee," Schoen writes in the book, due out April 1.


Schoen's shots at Dean come as part of a broader critique of the activist, web-centric wing of the party, which he describes as the inheritors of George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy. Schoen writes that last year's Connecticut Senate race proved the limitations of Dean's "'Democratic wing of the Democratic Party' -- a designation that of course excludes moderates and outright insults conservatives."


He refers to the Republican support of Lieberman as a sign that the activist wing is dying.

This is so tiring. This whole spiel they have had going against the grassroots, webroots, nutroots, whatever since 2003. Shades of Al From and his "fringe activists" from 2003.

No more fringe activist stuff from the centrists

QUESTION: Are they deliberately trying to anger the "liberals" "activist" whatever and make us mad enough to leave the party?

I think the answer is yes.

Well, I am very angry. But I am not going anywhere just yet. I just will make it a point NOT to vote in 08 for anyone connected to this guys. Period. Bottom line.
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