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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion
Mon Nov 19th 2007, 11:08 PM
This is one of the worst comments I have heard, and I have read and heard many lately during this period leading up to the final decision.

To teach evolution as a scientific fact is not education, but indoctrination every bit as insidious as the rewriting of history by dictatorial regimes.


Not long ago the Florida Department of Education declared they were including evolution to be taught in science classes, and they said intelligent design and creationism would not be taught along side it.

I think people who are in favor of this are going to have to be more vocal. The noisy ones are the ones who are supposedly in the minority on this issue. Here are some letters this week:

Evolution: Theory ignores fact

Published: Sunday, November 18, 2007

Theory Ignores Fact

Before a decision as to whether or not evolution should be taught in Florida schools it is imperative that the proponents define precisely what the "Theory of Evolution" is. A recent editorial from a graduate student at USF indicates there is a great deal of ignorance on the subject. The theory of evolution that claims all life forms evolved by time and chance is not a scientific fact. Scientific theories must either be observable or repeatable. Micro-evolution is an indisputable fact since it can be observed; as for example in the case of dogs where there are countless breeds, but a dog is still a dog.

Despite millions and millions of fossils that have been unearthed and studied there has yet to be one that was an intermediate form between species when there should have been thousands of examples. Every time an intermediate example has been brought forward it has later turned out to be a hoax. (So much for believing someone just because he has a science degree.)

Therefore, since the theory is not observable and not scientifically testable it must remain a theory and requires belief in its truth as much as belief in God and creation. Ordinarily, theories that defy established scientific laws (like the second law of thermodynamics) or are shown to be mathematically impossible are thrown out, but this has not been the case with evolution. Its adherents totally ignore any scientific evidence that conflicts with their beliefs.

Education should only teach factual information or evidence on both sides of debatable issues and how to discern the truth between disparate beliefs. To teach evolution as a scientific fact is not education, but indoctrination every bit as insidious as the rewriting of history by dictatorial regimes.


Eeeek...you may need to read that at least twice to get the full impact.

Another letter:


Common Sense in Evolution

I am not a scientist - just your average citizen with a question about the validity of evolution. Since I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, I would appreciate someone explaining to me how life could spontaneously spring from non-living matter (or even explain to me where matter itself came from).

Having answered the above question, I would then be interested in hearing a believable scientific explanation of how this one living organism progressed from asexual to sexual reproduction. Where and how was the geographical area or did asexual reproducing organisms develop legs before they developed sexual organs? Or did sexual organs stimulate the evolutionary development of legs? Finally, how did the human ability to reason evolve?

It appears (to this average inquiring mind) that in order to believe in evolution the first requirement is to suspend one's innate human ability to reason. Pardon my ignorance, but this seems like "devolution" to me.

Please forgive me, but I am not yet so highly evolved that I am ready to swallow as scientific fact something that does not even pass the test of common sense. Perhaps in a few more years I will have devolved to the point of believing a theory that has been so obviously cut from whole-cloth.


An Orlando school is not going to accept readily the teaching of evolution in their high school.

Orlando School Debates Including "Intelligent Design" in Class

ORLANDO, FL (AP) -- Some parents and teachers at an Orlando school are asking officials to include the controversial concept of "intelligent design" in the classroom.

Jones High School officials held a public meeting last night to discuss proposed revisions to state science standards. Several speakers called for including intelligent design, which explains the origins of life on earth as derived from an "intelligent cause" rather than through natural selection and evolution. Teacher and parent Veronica Bryant said a lack of fossil evidence supports evolution, and the complexity of life defies it.

Parents and educators elsewhere in Florida have also contacted the state Board of Education about teaching intelligent design since the state made the proposed standards public last month. Critics call intelligent design a thinly veiled religious theory.


Previous letters to the editor have said this teaching will lead to more "godless" beliefs and people.

Florida's plan to require evolution be taught in science class is being called "godless".

The downward spiral humanity is on is pathetically evolutionary, and is producing generations of godless adults.

It's certainly not true science. It is a lot of confusion along with
imagination and a wishful doctrine from confused people who cannot accept creationism.

I trust we have more competent leaders who will stop this nonsense being perpetrated on our students.


I honestly believe that the teaching in churches shown in Alexandra Pelosi's video Road Trip Friends of God has been going on in too many places in Florida.

The Florida Department of Education may well find their efforts thwarted by a very vocal minority. I would hate to see them back down.

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