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Posted by madfloridian in General Discussion: Presidential
Tue Mar 25th 2008, 10:08 PM
as the two states stand idly by and allow themselves to used as pawns in your political games.

They are just as complicit as you are in letting your campaign use them as tools to make Barack Obama look bad.

The rules the party has put in place to choose its nominee are not the rules of the Clinton campaign and, just like the Obama campaign, we are doing what we can under those rules to secure the requisite number of delegates for the nomination. One way to avoid the situation described above is to figure out some way to honor the votes of Michigan and Florida, where there was record turnout. Counting the delegates in Florida and Michigan is a civil rights issue, and a solution needs to be figured out before the convention.


Never the hell mind that those two states deliberately and with malice broke the party rules. Never mind that my state sent press releases blaming the party chairman and trying to crash the DNC fundraising.

Concerning some of the comments I have been getting about the Democratic candidates signing the 4 state Pledge (NO campaigning in Florida before Jan 29th), I am suggesting that if your are, or were, planning on sending a check to your presidential candidate of choice, send a check to the FDP instead!

Several substantial fundraisers who have historically given to the DNC are giving to the FDP instead. That's a start. In addition, several Democrats who had endorsed candidates are withdrawing their endorsements. Those endorsements usually come with contributions, which are being withheld


Never mind that the DNC followed the rules because all the candidate went to them and asked them to keep order. More on that later. Never mind that Florida Democrats have done nothing but use tactics of ridicule against Dean...spending their time on TV asking him to resign even though they started the whole mess.

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- Democratic Congresswoman Corrine Brown places the blame for the delegate flap squarely on DNC Chairman Howard Dean.

"I think Howard Dean should fix the problem or resign," Brown exclaims during an interview at First Coast News studios.

Brown insists that Florida's delegates be seated at the convention according to the results of the January primary.

"And after what happened in 2000 in Florida, elections is a raw nerve for people in Florida. And you should not mess with us! And you should not mistreat us in Florida," she says.


Even though they arrogantly shoved ahead of other states in their drive to be more important.

We now find ourselves in a very odd situation. The party leadership and many of the elected Democrats took the risk of violating party rules, many promoting the change. They ignored the notice from the DNC and the substantial legal precedent that gives the party control over its own rules and supports its authority to set the terms of its delegate selection. Surely the party leaders and lawyers know of the legal rule that respects party autonomy and avoids the chaos that would exist if the primary and caucus dates were simply left to every state, a system that the U.S. Supreme Court has said would produce "an obviously intolerable result."


Nothing matters but winning. I like the Tanya Harding comparison. Kneecapping Obama to win.

Kneecapping him, even though the Clinton campaign agreed at the start that neither state would count. They went along with it until they needed the delegates.

I did not think it would happen, but now I am hearing it from people around us in our area. People are truly willing to blame Obama just because the Clintons say so. People who don't pay attention are getting a snow job. They are confused, and they don't know what to think.

After all, you are supposed to be able to trust a former president not to change the plot in the middle of the story. Not to change the rules in the middle of the game.

We should be able to trust that former president and his wife to campaign with dignity and speak the truth. Trouble is that campaign said their rules for delegates are not the same as the rules of the DNC.

So I guess they are making up their rules as they go along.

Good one, Bill and Hillary, blaming Obama for the mess that FL and MI got us into...and that they don't have the integrity to be honest about.


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