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Posted by merh in General Discussion: Presidential
Thu Jul 10th 2008, 08:15 PM
LOL, boy you can't even debate an issue properly.

‘(a) Authorization- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon the issuance of an order in accordance with subsection (i)(3) or a determination under subsection (c)(2), the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence may authorize jointly, for a period of up to 1 year from the effective date of the authorization, the targeting of persons reasonably believed to be located outside the United States to acquire foreign intelligence information.

‘(b) Limitations- An acquisition authorized under subsection (a)--

‘(1) may not intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to be located in the United States;

‘(2) may not intentionally target a person reasonably believed to be located outside the United States if the purpose of such acquisition is to target a particular, known person reasonably believed to be in the United States;

‘(3) may not intentionally target a United States person reasonably believed to be located outside the United States;

‘(4) may not intentionally acquire any communication as to which the sender and all intended recipients are known at the time of the acquisition to be located in the United States; and

‘(5) shall be conducted in a manner consistent with the fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States.



There goes your argument about no Order and "only on the word some official".

Let me ask you, how does the 4th amendment work with regard to criminal prosecutions? Some cop thinks the bad guy is bad or has bad stuff and he prepares an affadivit identifying the bad dude, why he thinks he is bad and what he is searching for, right?

How do we know he is not lying? Are the laws that established those procedures evil because all cops don't follow the law? Isn't it better to have laws that puts the limitations in writing, that establishes procedures and that tells folks what they can and cannot do than to have no law on the topic at all?

If the search is illegal, if it is made without the proper order or warrant, all things seized must be returned to the suspected bad guy and the charges dismissed. Fruit of the poisonous tree.



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