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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Sep 27th 2006, 04:55 PM
that may be true, however, we are talking about the whole world ecosystem here....all species which inter-depend on each other for their survival. We must look at the big picture, not narrow it down to just humans. An analogy:

You have a building with humans in it...the building is the world, the other systems in the building like AC, heating, the walls, skeletal structure, etc are the other species and their ecosystems.

So, humans need more room, they take the AC out...maybe not a big issue...
Then because of ever increasing population humans need to take out a few walls, then maybe heating, ok, a few beams here and there. OOPS! the building is starting to sway...oh well, humans say its really about distribution and wealth and such. So, they move a few things around, start changing the geometrics of the building itself...OOPS! BUILDING FALLS! On its way down humans fight and argue over who's fault it is and why didn't anyone do something about it! THE END!
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Sep 27th 2006, 01:48 PM
so whats the point? Should we just let everything happen without trying to survive as long as we can? What is our purpose if any? Our purpose is to survive and to propagate our species, just like all the other living organisms on our planet, but, is it our purpose to propagate ourselves out of existence? Or, should we try to address the issue and advance beyond ourselves? Ok, so some day the universe will expand to the point where all matter will break down into its particles, so, what is the point of existing at all? I think the point is existence itself for as long as we can, and, not just ignoring the need and opportunity to extend our own a few more thousand, million, whatever we can achieve.
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Sep 27th 2006, 01:35 PM
you keep trying to somehow connect poverty/wealth/ which are economic injustice issues and I cant see how that is related to # of humans/resources . As someone pointed out just look around and see the whole picture, it wont take you long to realize the connections. Proof is everywhere, scientific studies are abound on many fronts that connect overpopulation with many serious problems involving ecosystems, habitat, global warming, loss of the protective ozone layer, ect....check out places like the Wilderness Society, the Science channel online, the UN website, ect....its all there.
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Sep 27th 2006, 07:57 AM
and not the mis-balance. Sure maybe the top 10% use most of the resources. It would definitely help to lessen the suffering in the world to redistribute resources, but, would it fix the problem of unbalancing nature to the point of our own demise? I don't think so. reducing population would allow nature to re-balance, with help from humanity.We may be at the point of no return, I don't know. It may be that just like in two other periods of our planets history, natural disasters on a global scale, one an asteroid, the other a giant volcanic eruption, will reset the balance over time. In lieu of that, its in our hands, which really is scary. Then again maybe humanity IS the 3rd disaster in time.
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Sep 27th 2006, 07:41 AM
its the affect of overpopulation on the balance of nature, which will eradicate us!
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Tue Sep 26th 2006, 09:20 PM
those who had nothing, which would reduce the suffering of the many as compared to the luxury of a few...which would be a positive step. It would not however, help with the overall issue of lack of resources to support the overuse. You have to remember, the issue is "balance" of the whole of nature not just humanity. All of nature is interconnected in a very complex way, if the balance is messed up, it affects the whole system. That is why you have to look at the big picture, the whole system as it interacts with other parts of it. It is well known how humanity has unbalanced it to the point of affecting many environmental ecosystems around the world. You have to expand your mind to understand all the interactions taking place and realize that they are directly related to the expansion of humanity (overpopulation).
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Tue Sep 26th 2006, 02:55 PM
and you have 30 people that need to live on them for 1 year, it doesn't matter how you distribute the apples, you still will not have enough to go around. The fallacy of wealth distribution fails to take into account the resources versus the need....all the money in the world distributed equally would not fix the need for the resources needed to support the #s of people consuming them...
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Tue Sep 26th 2006, 01:50 PM
rather than a practical one? Actually, there are millions of people living with virtually nothing, and, still the problem exists. People live where resources are not available simply because they have no place to go. Reducing the population, and, redistributing of people to where resources are available is part of the answer.
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Tue Sep 26th 2006, 01:22 PM
working, it hasn't for a long time. Humanity has upset the balance and continues to make it more unbalanced evey day. It is in our hands as intelligent beings ( well, at least some of us), to find solutions, otherwise we will be the species with the shortest lifespand on Earth. All our accomplishments will be but a flash in the pan of time, not long enough to hardly notice our existence. It is imperative that we have a negative trend for some time, to balance things again. Without it, all we have done, all we do now, and, all we will do in the short future, will be meaningless. While mankind tries to patch the planet, the planet will die because humanity failed to address the real issue, self destruction thru OVERPOPULATION. The facts show that our existence depends on the natural balance we ourselves are destroying, and, we are the only species that has the ability to change that. Many species are now extinct because they had no way to change it, we do. This should be the #1 issue, but, I see very little being done, which is why I have little hope that mankind will survive itself.
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Tue Sep 26th 2006, 12:33 PM
is the OVERPOPULATION OF HUMANS! Everything else is just sub issues. End result: extinction of life on Earth thru famine, disease, and, annihilation of each other as we fight for survival in an ever shrinking pool of limited resources. Wake up Earth and start finding solutions before its too late!
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Posted by michaelpush in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Wed Aug 02nd 2006, 07:32 AM
Ok, heres the opportunity of the American people to change the power in Washington. The people didn't do it in the Presidential elections, do you think people will vote out Republicans this fall to change the balance of power? I don't have much hope for that, I am pessimistic about the general public having enough common sense and intelligence to do it. What do you think? Has the american people come to their senses yet?
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