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~~~~~~~~POLITICAHOLIC~~~~~~~~ for those who like their info sorta news-ish
Posted by politicaholic in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Mon Jan 21st 2008, 08:24 PM
Rebates, Econo-history, And The Awakening Of The Rich


If this picture of a
hand giving money to
another hand doesn't
convince you then
nothing will.


Don't buy weed with your rebate or you'll be supporting terrorism. If you're marginally interested in the economy, i.e., how much scratch you gots, then you may be interested in learning that President Bush is going to pay your rent in May. Pretty cool huh? Wada-guy! Remember in 2001 when he bought you that xbox for voting for him? That was pretty sweet. Then you found out that you had to give the money back and by then the fan on your xbox had stopped working even though you were only half way through Grand Theft Auto: San Antonio. Well...deja-friggin-vu.

All kidding aside, even the economists don't like the idea and they have "econom" IN their job titles!
"It is a Band-Aid that's needed for now, but it won't get consumers out of the woods," said Michael Niemira, chief retail economist with the International Council of Shopping Centers (ICSC).

"Any extra money that you give consumers at this time will help ," he said. "But the typical view is that any temporary tax relief is not as effective as a permanent tax relief."


Slip on some adult diapers because I'm about to make you poop with knowledge.
Economists are reactionary, consciously ignore history, and like to lie for profit. Economists with the peoples' best interests at heart usually don't work as economists, they do bookkeeping for nonprofit organizations. One big lie they've been telling us is that the country isn't already in recession when the hard numbers, cross sectioned with the commonly defined recession indicators, actually tells us that the country has been in recession for a few months now. You knew that though. Why? Because it's not your job to lie about the economy. It's your job to be unemployed.

Michael Niemira, the guy with the quote up there in that little box, is the economist for shopping centers everywhere. Shopping centers are the ugliest things to litter the planet since the Japanese started breeding dogs. If a representative of soulless retail institutions that turn a blind eye to child and prisoner labor to increase their profits can speak out about the emptiness of rebates and actually choke out the words "tax relief", then you know that President Bush's plan looks like the "Hey, Koolaid" guy has been crashing through it like a practice wall.

History...or what Bush likes to call, "A bunch of stuff that happened."
The Bush administration is afraid of history. Plus, George W. Bush really likes to talk. So they came up with a solution. Why are they afraid of history? Because:
1) Reaganomics was a horrid failure as early as 1982 and no republican is willing to admit it.
2) George Bush Sr. was facing the same dilemma in 1992 because of the same old crapola, was (wisely) advised to do nothing and allow the economy to right itself, and that was one of the reasons he lost the election to Bubba. The W administration is afraid they may come out of this looking just as bad so they're doing something. It's "Okay! Everyone look busy!" economics.
3) Supply-side economics is a mathematical impossibility. It cannot work. Kittens are fuzzy, math isn't. At least math doesn't fuck up your furniture.
4) War only stimulates the economy if it creates jobs. The Iraq War has only created new terrorists. I suppose terrorism is a job of sorts, but how the hell do you tax it?
5) Rebates didn't work before. It is said that a telling sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. As if you need convincing that the country is being run by insane people.
6) Many republican economic intellectuals like to use Ancient Rome, FDR, and the Nazi Party as economic examples so to uphold their free-market rhetoric and make themselves look smart. The problem is that society never does what they want. Though the republicans were successful in convincing people to vote against their own economic interest and will probably be able to do it in the future, that doesn't mean they will not consistently end up with egg on their faces. Voters have short memories, yes, but their stomachs have long memories.


Stack of money
or stack of
starter logs...
you decide.


Rebates, like pyramid (ponzi) schemes, end up in the same place; the pockets of those who started them. Now, there is no quick fix and I have offered solutions to the economy before (see my journal), but here I'm talking about rebates specifically. Many have said that the rebates are not high enough for those who will plop it back into the economy quickly, i.e., the poor and middle class. That is true, but that argument doesn't address the fact that any rebates are a horrible idea. Cash advances on credit make situations worse. Sure, some economists can give me examples of instances when it doesn't. "This corporation did this and made this much." Those stories are the 1% of the time when things work out. Even the dumbest gambling junkie wouldn't take those odds. When you spend money, that money moves up the chain. The poor don't make enough to save. The rich live off of the large surplus of cash, stocks, and bonds they have. Why do they have these large surpluses that seem to get bigger? Is money magnetic? No. Money moves up the economic pyramid, but it isn't like an oil well. Once it gets to the top it doesn't pop and spray over the dancing masses. It stays at the top and might fund a children's hospital, but most likely will keep a few generations of their family members from having to cook or drive for themselves. Don't save the rebate. Put the money in your gas tank and watch where it ends up.

Rebates aren't about you...they're about War.
As much as the economists and talking heads on CNBC will divert your attention away from the policies of the Bush administration, the recession and economic woes lay directly at the feet of the War in Iraq. Rebates will only pad Bush's numbers as he slides out of office so that he can say, "Look, it only got REALLY bad AFTER I left office...hehe."

The tipping point has come. America's cocaine habit is about to land it in jail. Not because of the cocaine, but because it's not paying it's bills and doesn't have any friends left. America has been too much of a freeloading douche-bag for too long. The markets around the world are falling and the NYSE is about to be forced to become truly conservative, no longer republican. This last windfall, the last cash advance on America's credit card, this last consumer binge will leave the corporations with a choice. Either they choose plummeting stock and a dollar as weak as a toy poodle or finally admit to themselves that "conservative" now means "liberal".

**Check out my journal for more commentary and funny pictures**
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~~POLITICAHOLIC'S~~ ~~thawt of the weak~~ 1/30/08
Confused.

This is a state where-by a Democrat is shocked that 50% of the nation can still self identify with an opposition party that insists on only representing the top 1% of the population.

Baffled.

This is a state where-by a Democrat is confused by why his/her party still gives the opposition the time of day based on past treatment, their association with nut jobs and drug addicts, and their non-existent sense of humor or fair play.

Despondent

This is a state where-by a Democrat is so overwhelmed by bafflement that all they can do all day is avoid politics, lose touch with their party, and only wake up again when the United States has invaded...I dunno...Antarctica because of its overt neutrality.

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Great, they lower the EPA air standards and here in Seattle gas masks are illegal.
I've discovered the universal question posed by every mature thinking human since the conception of mature thinking humans. Are you ready?

"What is this world coming to?"

Surprised? I was too when I realized it. I always thought the universal question was something like, "How did we get here?" or "Can I ask you a question?" or perhaps, "Does this (article of clothing) make me look fat?". But I'm no different from anyone else (except for the fact that I'm immortal...that's a whole different article).

I live in Seattle. After the WTO riots (Remember those? Seattle became a 4 day war zone in 2000. Ahh, the cold kiss of billy club mixed with the burn of tear gas...those were the days I tells ya...) the city of Seattle banned the use of gas masks by civilians. "If it weren't for gas masks we wouldn't have lost control of the situation." they say. I TOTALLY agree. If the police could have seen out of their gas masks at who they were shooting tazers and bean bags at then it would have been a peace protest as planned and not a pissed off burning looting cluster-fuck.

The EPA is trying to lower the air standards so that the poor ailing corporate sector can afford to compete against those big bad companies in China that don't have to worry about all of those pesky kids within five miles of their plant that are being born with no brain and lobster claws for feet. But its not about them. It's all about me and my personal environmental policy, which goes something like this:

Article 4, paragraph 8 of "Politicaholic's Environ-mentally Challenged Policy For Clean Air and Tasty Water That Doesn't Come Out of Those Dumb Plastic Bottles" - Hereforth and forthwith it shall be decreed that all corporate emissions into the air shall be limited to bakeries only...because they just make the world smell better.

How the hell am I supposed to breath? Now I'm supposed to wear one of those flimsy white SARS blockers when it starts raining brown sludge and the air has it's own SPF? I lived in London in the '80s. The air was so polluted that I would Q-tip black soot out of my ears...for reals! It was disturbing. It didn't stop me from smoking though. I wasn't the smartest person in the world back then...not like now...ahem.

In conclusion, it's also very unsexy to weez during intercourse. The EPA should really take that into account. That is all.

politicaholic 's mentally challenged guide to history repeating itself.
Its the beginning of the 21st century. Really. How can you tell? You're reading this on a computer. Other than that the United States seems to be in some horrible sci-fi time shifting state of mass confusion. Bell-bottoms are being worn with flannel shirts. In urban areas small dogs are more an accessory than a companion or food. Cars the size of four refridgerators duct-taped together (and shaped much the same) are called "hybrids" making me think, 'hybrid of what? A humpback whale? Mothra? A plus sized opera singer sans the horned helmet? What?". All I know is that history is repeating itself all at once like taking a big jumble of stuff that happened and shoving it all through a funnel attached to our ears. It's as if we remember the lessons but learn all of the lessons at once. I have gotten a funnel and a history book and done just that. Here's what I learned.

Welcome to "Biblical times" when God is under attack! From what I understand, God could take a little light ribbing and not get hurt what with the all-powerfulness and...all. Is God really so thin skinned that he/she/it couldn't handle a Townhall style meeting with prearranged questions? Perhaps a softball Barbara Walters special where God reveals that he/she/it would be an elm tree out of any tree and thinks that Brad Pitt should have never left Jennifer Aniston. Is that so hard?

Welcome to 1986. The deficit is through the roof, a dillusional hand puppet with good hair is president, and democracy hinges on the destruction of a third world country (Nic-Iraq-ua). Thank goodness its 2006 and Madonna's career is over...what? She has another album coming out? NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!

Welcome to Egypt, circa the time when the Pharaoh ordered the death of all first born male children...by sending them to Iraq for their third tour with a handful of antidepressants and a dream. The dream? That once they're done bringing Christian democracy to the Muslims they can come back to a freer America where women have the right to choose preganacy, we can conveniently make phone calls to our friends both overseas and at the NSA at the same time, and the press is free to expose the Liberals for what they really are...Iraqi insurgents that drive Prius'.

Welcome to the 1920's. Prohibition has begun on cigarettes and evil-ution is once again in question. People gather in a hot courtroom in Kansas debating whether humans evolved from monkeys or God intervened about 6000 years ago, sent down his chronically-single son with only his wits and an AK47 (another God-given right) to kill all of the dinosaurs and free all humans from dino-tyranny (footnote: all dinosaurs were Jewish...little known fact).

Welcome to that period between 0006 AD to 1806 AD where humans didn't progress much except for a little math here, a little science there, some light philosophising (usually all done by the same dude) and a whole lot o' killin' each other with swords (done by everyone else). Usually the killing was for glory. Sometimes they killed for a woman, where the "glory time" comes when you're naked. Some people chose to intermesh the two and went to war naked. Either way, scientist were only good for two things: 1) making gun powder and 2) being burned at the stake. Which brings us to today when the ultimate scientific question is: "Regarding Global Warming, how would the ozone layer be effected if all of the scientists were all burned at the stake at once?"

Which brings me to a period in history that from beginning to end pretty much stays consistant. The one single most dangerous enemy of all humanity throughout history. Sex. Particularily homosexual sex, which is defined as "Any sex that involves sound, different positions, lack of procreation, or enjoyment of any kind." Little known fact: homosexuality almost killed off the Spotted Owl and totally did in the Dodo (actually, for the record, Dodos would still be around if they hadn't liked hanging out in bear bars so much). Homosexuality was actually fairly accepted in certain periods of time especially in those societies where building a bunch of 40 foot penises and distributing them across the city was known as "architecture" and sex between men was "bonding". But now-a-days a grown man listening to Celine Dion is labeled as a faggot (faggot: cord of wood or english cigarette), and a woman who chooses construction as a profession is labeled a lesbian (lesbian: inhabitant of the Greek island of Lesbos). The people who label gay people as faggots or lesbians are known as homophobes (homophobe: homo - human, phobe - fear of). Perhaps we wouldn't kill each other if we didn't fear everyone different from us and instead wanted to hump them...in an environment of solidarity that is. For the record, I am not gay, I am a single celled homohybrid that splits occasionally if I want to get sexual satisfaction and want someone to share the bar bill with at the same time.

Feel free to drop me a personal line to critisize...if you even got this far...
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