I am confident that, in this case, also, he was lying; lying to promote the manufactured myth of what happened on 911 and lying to discredit anyone who would dare to question that myth.
As Mr. Bush so eloquently put it four years ago:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
topic since this forum is certainly not populated by Bush supporters or defenders. And in reviewing the OP there are certainly no references to DU members. And yet some of the posters were frantic to dismiss the fact that justifying either through calculating intention or by sheer coincidence the lies of the Bush administration concerning 911 amounts to protecting the Bush Administration. Perhaps some of you should reread the OP and I am sure it will be clear that I am really only concerned with the deluded lunatics in the Media such as Glenn Beck and the roaring, bigoted mobs of fanatics on right wing message boards who rush to ridicule, belittle and condemn anyone who questions the OGCT.
Here is a useful guide to help understand OGCTers and so-called "debunkers".
10 Characteristics of Self Proclaimed 'Skeptics'
A useful guide by Chi_Disciple
1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are intellectually honest: independent thinkers are always "conspiracy theorists", dupes for shoddy research, Alex Jones and the 'Truth Movement' etc. They rarely acknowledge logical fallacies in their arguments.
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on in denial no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "conspiracy nut" or "liar" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for independent thought whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length, copy pasting material they do not even understand themselves. Some of them even troll "conspiracy threads" to no end.
3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from genuine skeptics about the claims that they make.
4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include "conspiracy theorist," "tin foil hat," "lying womens thing," "truther," "paranoid," "uneducated flubb" and "intellectual dishonesty." What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to think critically.
5. Inability to employ or understand logic. Aided by the principle in above, self proclaimed skeptics never notice that the small ambiguities
6. Inability to tell good theories from bad. Self proclaimed skeptics have no place for questioning the integrity of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by authority, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it supposedly answers be accepted, as if intellectual inquiry were a matter of submitting to logical fallacies. While they do this, of course, they will claim to be "educated" and abuse the skeptics of conventional (or "official") accounts for apparently lacking same.
7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a self proclaimed skeptics admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be state propaganda, disinformation or without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections to the previous lot.
8. Leaping to conclusions. Self proclaimed skeptics are very keen indeed to declare the "alternative" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the stock phrases as in 4. above. Small ambiguities
9. Ignoring previous conspiracies and atrocities, perpetuating their pathological denial and cognitive dissonance. This dismissal makes critical thought unlikely, in order to try and demonstrate that their coincidence
10. It's always a coincidence. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.
Feel free to use it wherever you please.
Defending the OGCT = Protecting the Bush Administration
By accepting and promulgating the fundamental tenets of the government version of what happened on 911, 911 Debunkers such as Mark Roberts, the right wing Screw Loose Change people and various and sundry other individuals scattered throughout the Internet, these people are effectively protecting the best interests of the members of the Bush Administration. Those interests being the hope of freedom from prosecution for treason and mass murder and a chance of maintaining their sterling reputations and further lustrous careers. Doubtless, the fact that the information, analyses and opinions on SLC and Debunking 911 and from various misguided individuals roaming the net is identical to the information and analyses from the USG is purely coincidental and merely the happy result of much tireless individual study. The effect, nonetheless, is to contribute to the perpetuation of the government myths concerning 911 and to create a protective cloud of doubt, confusion and misinformation behind which the perpetrators of 911 may tour the lecture circuit, write books glorifying their exploits and submit to fawning interviews with the agreeable maggots of the corporate press without ever having to hear the judge's gavel, inhale the sour atmospheres of incarceration or fear the sting of the executioners axe.
Furthermore, since the government myths concerning 911 have been used and used exhaustively by the past administration and continue to be used by the present administration as the justification for illegal and hugely destructive wars of occupation and exploitation, efforts to defend the OGCT, which originated in the Bush Administration, or to defend and promote any version of the OGCT which happens to be identical to the Bush Administration OGCT, helps to sustain the casus belli for continuing these catastrophic military adventures.
And so it is a marvel to me that any one, particularly any Democrat, would find it fitting to work so tirelessly to defend the anemic alibis and feeble excuses offered by one of the most lawless administrations in American history. All the while feigning some unquenchable passion for supposed objectivity as their basis for reiterating as indubitable fact, as unassailable dogma, a story which, to any rational individual, must surely seem altogether preposterous.
Here is yet another story which is getting no play in the American Press.
Suitcase With $134 Billion Puts Dollar on Edge: William Pesek
Commentary by William Pesek
June 17 (Bloomberg) -- It’s a plot better suited for a John Le Carre novel.
Two Japanese men are detained in Italy after allegedly attempting to take $134 billion worth of U.S. bonds over the border into Switzerland. Details are maddeningly sketchy, so naturally the global rumor mill is kicking into high gear.
Are these would-be smugglers agents of Kim Jong Il stashing North Korea’s cash in a Swiss vault? Bagmen for Nigerian Internet scammers? Was the money meant for terrorists looking to buy nuclear warheads? Is Japan dumping its dollars secretly? Are the bonds real or counterfeit?
The implications of the securities being legitimate would be bigger than investors may realize. At a minimum, it would suggest that the U.S. risks losing control over its monetary supply on a massive scale.
The trillions of dollars of debt the U.S. will issue in the next couple of years needs buyers. Attracting them will require making sure that existing ones aren’t losing faith in the U.S.’s ability to control the dollar.
The dollar is, for better or worse, the core of our world economy and it’s best to keep it stable. News that’s more fitting for international spy novels than the financial pages won’t help that effort. It is incumbent upon the U.S. Treasury to get to the bottom of this tale and keep markets informed.
Think about it: These two guys were carrying the gross domestic product of New Zealand or enough for three Beijing Olympics. If economies were for sale, the men could buy Slovakia and Croatia and have plenty left over for Mongolia or Cambodia. Yes, they could have built vacation homes amidst Genghis Khan’s Gobi Desert or the famed Temples of Angkor. Bernard Madoff who?
These men carrying bonds concealed in the bottom of their luggage also would be the fourth-largest U.S. creditors. It makes you wonder if some of the time Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner spends keeping the Chinese and Japanese invested in dollars should be devoted to well-financed men crossing the Italian-Swiss border.
This tale has gotten little attention in markets, perhaps because of the absurdity of our times. The last year has been a decidedly disorienting one for capitalists who once knew up from down, red from black and risk from reward. It almost fits with the surreal nature of today that a couple of travelers have more U.S. debt than Brazil in a suitcase and, well, that’s life.
Counterfeit $100 bills are one thing; two guys with undeclared bonds including 249 certificates worth $500 million and 10 “Kennedy bonds” of $1 billion each is quite another.
The bust could be a boon for Italy. If the securities are found to be genuine, the smugglers could be fined 40 percent of the total value for attempting to take them out of the country. Not a bad payday for a government grappling with a widening budget deficit and rebuilding the town of L’Aquila, which was destroyed by an earthquake in April.
It would be terrible news for the White House. Other than the U.S., China or Japan, no other nation could theoretically move those amounts. In the absence of clear explanations coming from the Treasury, conspiracy theories are filling the void.
On his blog, the Market Ticker, Karl Denninger wonders if the Treasury “has been surreptitiously issuing bonds to, say, Japan, as a means of financing deficits that someone didn’t want reported over the last, oh, say 10 or 20 years.” Adds Denninger: “Let’s hope we get those answers, and this isn’t one of those ‘funny things’ that just disappears into the night.”
This is still a story with far more questions than answers. It’s odd, though, that it’s not garnering more media attention. Interest is likely to grow. The last thing Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke need right now is tens of billions more of U.S. bonds -- or even high-quality fake ones -- suddenly popping up around the globe.
(William Pesek is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)
To contact the writer of this column: William Pesek in Tokyo at email@example.com
Last Updated: June 16, 2009 15:00 EDT
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