Atheists and secularists are two different groups that have a large overlap but are not the same. There are Christian secularists - did you know that? Fraser is either too stupid or too intent on misrepresenting others' positions to make note of this, so whatever other point he was trying to make is ruined.

Most disturbing is how Fraser takes his most "damning" quote (the one from Howard Thompson) completely out of context to dishonestly make his point. What follows that quote is...

"I am not talking about force or coercion. Total victory is every human mind freely choosing to accept reality as their reasoned belief. A mind that accepts reality because of programming did not choose freely." (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/8666... )

Does that sound like a fundie? Insisting that people CHOOSE what to believe?

Absolutely pathetic. You have a hit piece written by a dishonest and deceitful believer as your resource to show the dangers of atheism. Ha ha ha!