Have found themselves a worthwhile niche in brokering products made in China, for companies here. Et cetera.

But if Obama had not allowed for all of Main Street's money to be handed over to the upper one percent of the banksters, who are not passing any of it around, then middle class America would have had a chance.

For instance, right now the money given to the banksters via outright gifts, loans and the guarantees total over 11 trillion bucks. Eleven trillion!

How much did Obama throw at the green job field of "bullet trains"? A total of nine billion bucks. That would get you MAYBE one train line from Sacramento to San Francisco.

Imagine if he had the imagination to say - no more guarantees for banks unless they put together a huge bullet train network and fund it, minimum project 200 Billion bucks.

Imagine how much work that would have provided. And it could have been divied up so that EVERY STATE in the Union saw multiple benefits, not only the Wall St area.

Become altered over the next several years. He wants it done, and he wants it done now, and he has already said that "I want to be the last President to have to deal with Health Care "Reform"

You'll get this precious little bill, and I am glad that it benefits someone.

However please be aware that people having a discussion on important policy matters are not trying to hurt you. We are not the insurers who have done everything they could to deny you. We are not the drug companies, whose average mark up is 2000 to 8,200 PERCENT of the cost to manufacture the drugs that you and many others need to survive.

We are not the problem. We are having a discussion, and we are really really not able to effect much in the way of change. The only "win" the progressives have had in the last ten days is Kucinich and Conyers voting against this. And their opinion changed little in a Sea of Dems turned Repugs sponsoring a bill that has always been about the Insurers continuing to make out like bandits..

So you'll get your bill. Don't worry about it.

But are we not to be allowed even our discussion??

Or do we have to shut up because those who are Rah Rah Cheerleaders for the DLC and Obama, threatening us at every turn (Support Obama today or Bush/Cheney will be back and will kill you in your sleep!)

Support this bill or else help kill WIll Pitt's wife. Support this bill or else your platelet disorder will somehow become our fault.

We are only people on a blog having a discussion. You don't need to worry about us, -- Obama doesn't worry about us, Feinstein doesn't, Lieberman doesn't, the Blue Dogs don't and the Major Insurers are partying all night long at some crazy $ 10K cover charge bar where Rahm is being bought a ton of drinkie poos.


While the good people at Goldman Sachs continue the plunder, and Main Street goes belly up.

Two men who are citizens if Wisconsin filed a lawsuit against PepsiCo.

They claimed that before Pepsi brought out its bottled water, they had met with Pepsi executives and told them how profitable this would be.

They were told their idea had no merit.

Then Pepsi started bottling Aquafina water. The two guys decided to sue Pepsi. They submitted the legal claim and filings to the Pepsi office in the Carolinas, which is the proper action, as that is where Pepsi has its charter of incorporation.

Pepsi, though, operates out of somewhere in New York. They never received the legal papers, and thus were a "no show" at their trial. And the judge ruled for the two plaintiffs.

Thus the two plaintiffs were awarded a 1.26 billion dollar judgement against Pepsi.

Now PepsiCo has its feathers all ruffled skyward. How dare these men present the papers to their office in the Carolinas, just because that is what proper legal interpretation dictates?

Pepsi plans on stopping this action. I am sure it has enough moolah to buy out whatever judge it needs to buy out, but for the moment, those two guys must feel that victory is sweet.

By Page two of this Twenty Seven Page Summary I am already pulling my hair out.

The Powers that Be are counting on, according to their own disclosures on Page Two

ONE HUNDRED SIXTY SEVEN BILLION BUCKS COLLECTED FROM PEOPLE AS PENALTIES!

Let me please repeat that:

ONE HUNDRED SIXTY SEVEN BILLION BUCKS COLLECTED FROM PEOPLE AS PENALTIES!

This one hundred and sixty seven dollars in penalties will be collected out of the hides of normal Americans. And the people who are not penalized will be paying the premiums plus massive increases that the Health Insurance "providers" have already stated will be necessary (Or so the Big Insurers say) in order to have to insure so many Americans - many of whom the Big Insurers have already deemed as undesirable.

Anyway, I am having a beer and then will resume in on reading. Very interesting stuff, but hardly reassuring!

But as Issa and Kucinich have both pointed out, when it became clear that these rat bastards didn't know an economy from a hole in the ground (though the rat bastards were capable of running our economy into a hole in the ground) then the government had an obligation to We the People to take over the banks. Then to take the amount of money needed for a Bailout and put it into regional, state-chartered banks. With regs in place that the monies HAD to be used to loan out money to consumers. (BTW - Geithner was lying through his teeth to Congress whenever he has said that what happened last fall HAD TO HAPPEN THE WAY it did, due to there not being laws on the books to structure the Bailout arrangements. In saying that, Mr Geithner deliberately FORGOT about the laws that Issa and Kucinich's suggestions entail - laws enacted ALREADY during the Savings and Loans Restructurings during the 1980's. And Laws that were proven to work. But did he forget - or was it just better fo r his career and maybe whatever secret "Thank You's" he may get for helping the banking industry help themselves to unlimited capital from Main Street?... The perhaps as much as nine trillion bucks that serve as Guarantees to Wall Street, and are under Bernanke The Magician's mystical purview, mean that not only are We the Taxpayers screwed, but so are our kids and their kids.)

The reason that it was very wrong to keep the Big Boy Banksters operating is because as long as their operations continued, -- AND THIS IS KEY -- then the hideous Trillions owed on the Credit Default Swaps were contractually owed. So the money that was used as "Bailout" went to pay the banksters for their losses vis a vis the CDS stuff. And according to contractual law, it had to! And these amounts, if Brooksley Born is to believed, can be an amount over 600 trillion dollars (At that point there is not even enough money in the world to pay that off - there are literally not enough plant material to make paper to create up the payoff for those those amounts.) As far as I am concerned -- The Obama Adminsitration had a duty to correct the wicked maneuvers that took place last fall. And to close down the "Too Big To Fail" crowd, and put the regional banks in place.

So that no matter how much money in Bailouts are offered to the banks, they have the Contractual Obligation in place that allows them to keep it all. (Until we are at the end of the 600 trillion bucks -- which is never.) This is why the economy is so suck-y, with the only pockets of relief on a grand scale being within Wall Street. This is why businesses are going under while they simply cannot find their next payroll loan. Consumers, even those with clean credit, are denied the new fridge or new car etc. With each credit denial, another manufacturere suffers. And then the workforce is cut back.

Are very proud of you.

I wish I could say that all Americans are proud of you, but apparently, regrettably, the Right wing nut jobs will not be able to put aside their partisan stance and offer you congrats.

I am also excited at the new prospects that this new award may bring to your political processes. Now that you have such an esteemed group as those at the Nobel Peace Prize committee backing you, perhaps you could remember that Peace, to be truly a universal quality of life, asks (or demands?) that you consider the rights of people to live in peace.

Will drones flying over the rural areas of Afghanistan really help to bring about peace? Will we Americans be proud of knowing that those killed by such drones may be victims of "Computer error?" And how will such a program win the hearts and minds of that populace?

Neighbors of mine who continue to believe that we must be fighting in Afghanistan keep telling me that we HAVE TO BE there on account of women in Afghanistan needing to be freed from the Taliban. But IMHO, women in this nation face a Taliban of sorts.

Perhaps Mr President if you could take a moment and view this video, you would see what I mean.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

For as I watch my nation ONCE AGAIN attempt to bomb a people into democracy, I say we need democracy here first. And no nation that is unwilling as my nation to provide for its own people's health, but instead leaves them physical and economic slaves to the Corporate Insurance Death Panels and Money Grabbers, has any right what so ever to be telling the rest of the world to suffer for what might be decades all of our bombs and our drones


In fact, the expense of those bombs and those drones (14% of our budget goes to the military) is exactly the amount needed to bring about

Universal Single Payer Health Care

which I know that you know all about Mr President, as you ran on that ticket back in 2003 when first asking the good people of Illinois for their vote.



Sincerely

Carol S. F.

In Jan of 1994, due to a minor illness, I watched TV 24/7.

One of the wonderful things that was going on that week was that the Chiappas were in revolt. Not only that -- the friggin' Mainstream Media was responding like crazy. They actually sent CBS, NBC and ABC reporters down to the hills of the farming community. Local news casters allowed for the film videos of the young reporters taking the viewer into the insides of the revolting peasants' huts. Families that had a halfway decent set of dishes were considered "wealthy" because many families only had several eating implements to share among five six or more people. These opeople were poor in a way that most Americans could not envision - no running water, dirt floors, little in the way of stored food, etc.

The media was excited about it. They had detailed explanations of how oppressed these peasants were. How onerous the Mexican army sent in to fight against them.
"Tune back in at 6 or 11 or tomorrow morning, and there will be even more," became an hourly promise.

"This is almost like Edward Murrow" thought I.

Friday early morning media had an update on the revolt. But then at the noon news feed, all that came up was a report that skater Nancy Kerrigan had her knee badly damaged by two guys with crude weapons. From that point on, the Nacy Kerrigan/Tonya Harding 24/7 was all that remained of news.

Over a decade later, in an article in Rolling Stone, it was revealed that Citibank put out the word that the coverage had to be squashed immediately.

And so it was.

Not one of the major news stations showed anything more about the Chiappas revolt. And it was at least ten days later that I read a small update (like on page 22) of the San Francisco Chronicle.

He was facing a commercial break, and he stated, "President Bush will be off to Denmark to plea for Chicago getting the Olympics. More details when we come back."

Dobbs knows that Obama is not any different (on most issues) than Bush was. We have the same style CIA directer, the same style Financial handover to the "Too Big To Fail" crowd on Wall Street, etc.
Plus an escalating war in Afghanistan. And did the modern weaponry deployed against CIVILIANS in this country fall under censure by President Obama? Nope, he apparently was too busy helping out the G20 Corporate Masters to care about those real Americans protesting in the streets. (Just as the Bush Administration before him!)

It is against the Constitution for any member of the Executive Office to make agreements with heads of foreign nations, unless those decisions are vetted by Congress. But the "G8 and/or G20" causes this to happen all the time. Whether those actions happen under a Clinton (D), a Bush (R) or a Obama (D) is basically irrelevant.

When they came back after commercial break, Dobbs launched into "Obama" trip to Copenhagen.

More and more I realize I am living in the world of Joseph Heller's "Catch 22" where the portrait on the wall is an ever-shifting group of faces. But no matter whose face is in that frame, you still ain't gettin' no parachute when your plane crashes - that's been taken from you by the major Corporate Profiteers.

 
Realize that this is a totally appropriate expression to use.

Did the Jewish people get taken out of their homes and gassed within a few weeks of the tightening screws? No, what happened first is that they were not allowed to work. And they were not allowed to meet in public. (Did you notice the new weaponry used last week in Pittsburgh? What happened to our right to assemble?)

Let's examine that - First the Jewish people were not allowed to work. Well, right now, that happens to be the reality for 17% of us, who have no jobs to get up to go to each morning.

And no, we don't wear any yellow stars, but we live with the very same reality that the Jewish families faced similar to ours - we don't get to eat! And if we are sick, we don't get treated.

Since this is happening to the least desirable of us first - the younger people who are disabled or sick, the older people whose job skills are lacking, et cetera, we fall into a ghetto defined not by our religion or ethnicity but by our monetary situation, physical condition, and age.

Let me repeat my last statement - we fall into a ghetto defined by our monetary situation, physical condition and our age.

And the other thing is, the non-civil methods of the rabid RW Teabaggers, since acceptance of their nasty methods has been condoned all the way up to the higher levels, this ugliness is spreading. Today it is obvious we will not get any sort of meaningful health insurance. Tomorrow (Word used figuratively) there may well be no Social Security checks -the Teabaggers hate that. Already in the Baucus Finance Committee, the Republican members have said they not only want to "reform" the health insurance plan, they want to "reform" Medicare"

And to me it sounds like they mean to phase it out, or further tighten the screws.

It has been my contention for decades that the next Holocaust would not fall upon the Jewish people, but upon the impoverished. And I see nothing in the works of current day America to change that perception.

Right now the FDIC is tightening the screws on the smaller banks across the country - the only ones that even might consider loaning money to the smaller customer. To the Average American.

Those banks will have to come up with three to four years of payments IN ADVANCE to the FDIC. So that will destroy their ability to lend out any monies. What that means is the small business person today who is semi-flourishing - he or she may well be out of business tomorrow. Because their bank will not be able to loan he money.

The screws are tightening. believe me. For simply being homeless, you can be put in jail. And the jails are privatized, so none of that nonsense about prisoners having rights will be followed by Blackwater and the others. With the ten millionth foreclosure occurring just a few weeks ago, the homeless situation is another check we can make on the check list.

None of this paints a pretty picture, and eventually people will understand. Just as the people of Germany eventually understood.

IS MONEY.

I don't have any way to put aside the fact that MONEY should not be controlling this debate.

Now you probably make enough money that no matter what happens, you'll still have your insurance. Through you rich parents, or your government job or whatever.

And it doesn't bother you that MORALLY it is reprehensible as HELL that the lobbyists are pushing so much of this puzzle piece. This puzzle piece BTW controls my life. I spent two of the last five years dealing with the Hellacious Monsters known as the Insurance industry. As far as I am concerned, the CEO's of those corporations should be in a maximum security prison, not giving the Obama administration $ 30,000 a head so they can have a seat at the table for the "reform" discussions.


Also, Obama spent ALL OF LAST YEAR running around this nation promising us that he was Change that you can believe in. Then he gets in office, and his new message - IMMEDIATELY AND NOT EVEN A WEEK AFTER BEING SWORN IN - was that he would be "conciliatory."

Well then somehow "Conciliatory" trumps being the Change that we can believe in.

Broken is his promise to keep lobbyists out of the governing decisions of his Administration

Broken is his promise to see that the legislative bills that are written are small enough, manageable enough to be clear to the public. We have spent a whole summer on this issue, and we have no clear vision of what ultimately will be the bill. Right now we have the Baucus bill plus three or four others. (And Waxman's committee's bill is just as lengthy as the Baucus bill,a nd has a lot if industry give aways.)

You can MONETARILY afford to have another Republican-lite President. I cannot.

It's not just the health care issue - it's many issues. It's Velsick and Taylor as well!
I don't want Monsanto GMO food, as it will prove to lead to famine. I don't want Monsanto FDA rulings. I don't want Geithenr/Bernanke Wall Street giveaways (Totaling two to three trillion to date, while California gets frozen out of our governor's request for some small change to help us avert a calamity!)

Barack Obama's Presidency makes me long for the original;l Republican-lite President, Bill Clinton, because he stood up to the banksters. (Though I can never forgive him for NAFTA.) At this point in time, I cannot believe that I saw Barack Obama as being more progressive than Hillary, and choose him over her a year ago.

But like I say, it all comes down to money. Those of you on DU who can support this new Republican-lite style Administration usually have a lot more money than those of us who are truly progressive, and are of the Teddy Kennedy-style Democratic party and not the rotten to the core Rahm Emmanual style Democratic party now in fashion.

Saturday, 05 September 2009
Not a joke! What award could we offer these wankers?

How soon before people are charged for paying their bills?

Obama and the onerous FISA - Obama votes for FISA.

Obama and the onerous Bush-pushed 700 Billion dollar give away - that was supposed to allow for the Big Banks to loan out money to the average America. But which had NO TEETH, as it contained no provisions regarding any regulations about doing this. Obama votes for this sack of shit piece of legislation.

late November 2008, Obama says that "Hank is working hard." (A very early on "Good job there, Brownie," moment. And he was not even in office yet.)

But yes we loyal Democrats held our breath. Maybe the REAL Obama would show himself once in the White House?

But no, he appoints Wall Street and Goldman Sachs affiliated Geithner and Bernanke (and the odious Summers) to key economic positions. He refers to Geithner as his "buddy" during the 2009 Presidential roast. This team of Big Banking insiders now have created an unsustainable recovery, which is jobless as well. (And will probably come to unravel sometime in the next 36 months. Bubbles always burst.) Geithner gives away countless tens of billions to Wall St banks, but refuses California one half of one percent of the Eleven Trillion bucks that the Bernake/Geithner team spent on Wall St. (Currently forty percent of all working age Californians are out of work.) And BTW your grand kids will be paying off the eleven trillion bucks.

Additionally the massive amounts of collateral offered to Wall Street means that commodity trades go big time. Grain prices are bid up, while milk prices are bid down. The small family farmers auction off their cattle, while larger farms borrow from their Parent Company, so they can survive. Coming next year, there will only be the large Big Agra farms to push the contaminated, Bovine Hormoned dairy product onto the shelves of the groceries - at much higher prices.

But maybe Obama is better on the environment? Oh wait, he considers coal to be "Clean." He pushes for Velsick to head the Ag Department, meaning that Monsanto has an insider in a top position while they belly up to the trough. And he appoints Mike Taylor, another Monsanto drone, to head the FDA.

I could go on, but then I have to consider Pelosi and her death knell to small businesses -- something involving the Postal Rate hike pushed through Congress. This was virtually the first act of the Democratic Majority-led House in the spring of 2007. Amazon and Time Life got discounts, while the small publishers pay through the nose.

The WH needs to remember how much it needed us back in November.

Although for many households, the donations were tiny, when they are added up, I am sure that they provided a big difference.

The notion that Obama doesn't "understand" the complexities of Single Payer Universal went out the window when he made speech after speech admitting that it was the best solution. And then for whatever unfathomable reason, he goes on in same speeches to say, because we already have a health care insurance industry, we must work with that. What the F____?!?

Maybe it is not unfathomable. Maybe he has been offered a deal - eight years in the WH in return for Geithner/Bernanke in the top economic positions and the continued milking of our populace via the Health Reform MANDATE, which will do everything for the insurance industry and nothing for us.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story...

Guillain-Barre

From Great Britain - all spellings are proper British useage.

Syndrome -- HCB:Things You Should Know --
Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease:

Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America




By Jo Macfarlane

Last updated at 11:05 PM
on 15th August 2009


A warning that the new swine flu jab

is linked to a deadly nerve disease
has been sent by the Government

to senior neurologists in a

confidential letter.


The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the
vaccine.

GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to
breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign
that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself
could cause serious complications.

It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when: More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.

500 cases of GBS were detected.

The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.

The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with Guillaume Barre Syndrom became clear.

The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.

Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.

It is being developed by pharmaceutical companies and will be given to about 13 million people during the first wave of immunisation, expected to start in October.

Top priority will be given to everyone aged six months to 65
with an underlying health problem, pregnant women and health professionals.

The British Neurological Surveillance Unit (BNSU), part of the British Association of Neurologists, has been asked to monitor closely any cases of GBS as the vaccine is rolled out.

One senior neurologist said last night: "I would not have the swine flu jab because of the GBS risk."

There are concerns that there could be a repeat of what became known as the 1976 debacle in the US, where a swine flu vaccine killed 25 people more than the virus itself.

A mass vaccination was given the go-ahead by President Gerald Ford because scientists believed that the swine flu strain was similar to the one responsible for the 1918-19 pandemic, which killed half a million Americans and 20 million people worldwide.

The swine flu vaccine being offered to children has not been tested on infants.

SIDEBAR Or as one Japanese researcher commented to an American researcher - "Regarding vaccines, we are now in the process of assembling vaccine data on young children." The American researcher demanded an explanation - "What? Your government allows you to test vaccines on young Japanese children and even infants?"

"No," replies the Japanese scientist. "But our government does allow us to collect data on the infants and children of the United States, who are serving as guinea pigs for the American Pharmaceutical industry."

in the 1976 program, symptoms of GBS were reported within days among those who had been immunised and 25 people died from respiratory failure after severe paralysis.

One in 80,000 people came down with the condition.
In contrast, just one person died of swine flu. (Recently, early summer of 2009, TV news anchors from either NBC or CBS were commenting on california swine flu cases. Twice as many people had died from regular flu as swine flu since January 23009 - 6 deaths from reguolar flu strains, and 3 from swine flu.)

More than 40 million Americans had received the vaccine by the time the programme was stopped after ten weeks.

The US Government paid out millions of dollars in compensation to those affected.
(However, the mechanism for suing the firm(s) producing the vaccine material in the USA has since been modified. ALthough more claims might be able to be filed against the insurers, it is my understanding that fewer actual monies would be handed out!)

The swine flu virus in the new vaccine is a slightly different strain
from the 1976 virus, but the possibility of an increased incidence of GBS remains a concern.

UK health spokesman Mike Penning said last night:
˜The last thing we want is secret letters handed around experts within the NHS.

We need a vaccine but we also need to know about potential risks.

Our job is to make sure that the public knows what's going on.

Why is the Government not being open about this?

It's also very worrying if GPs, who will be administering the vaccine,
have not been warned.

Two letters were posted together to neurologists advising them of the
concerns.


The first, dated July 29, was written

by Professor Elizabeth Miller,
head of the HPA's Immunisation Department. (Great Britain Agency)
It says:
˜The vaccines used to combat an expected swine influenza pandemic in 1976 were shown to be associated with GBS and were withdrawn from use.

GBS has been identified as a condition needing enhanced surveillance
when the swine flu vaccines are rolled out.

Reporting every case of GBS irrespective of vaccination or
disease history is essential for conducting robust epidemiological analyses
capable of identifying whether there is an increased risk of GBS in defined time periods after vaccination, or after influenza itself, compared with the background risk.

The second letter, dated July 27, is from the Association of British
Neurologists and is written by Dr Rustam Al-Shahi Salman, chair of its surveillance unit, and Professor Patrick Chinnery, chair of its clinical research
committee.

Halted: The 1976 US swine flu campaign

It says:
"Traditionally, the BNSU has monitored rare diseases for long
periods of time.


However, the swine influenza (H1N1) pandemic has overtaken us and we need every member involvement with a new BNSU survey of Guillain-Barre Syndrome that will start on August 1.

Following the 1976 programme of vaccination against swine influenza
in the US, a retrospective study found a possible 8-fold increase in the incidence of GBS. Active prospective ascertainment of every case of GBS in the UK is required. Please tell BNSU about every case.

You will have seen Press coverage describing the Government's concern about releasing a vaccine of unknown safety. If there are signs of a rise in GBS after the vaccination programme begins, the Government could decide to halt it."

GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, leaving them unable to transmit signals to muscles effectively.

It can cause partial paralysis and mostly affects the hands and feet.
In serious cases, patients need to be kept on a ventilator,
but it can be fatal.

Death is caused by paralysis of the respiratory system, causing the victim to suffocate.

It is not known exactly what causes GBS and research on the subject has been inconclusive. However, it is thought that one in a million people who have a seasonal flu vaccination could be at risk and it has also been linked to people
recovering from a bout of flu of any sort.

The HPA said it was part of the Government's pandemic plan to monitor GBS cases in the event of a mass vaccination campaign, regardless of the strain of flu involved.
But vaccine experts warned that the letters proved the programme was a guinea-pig trial.

Dr Tom Jefferson, co-ordinator of the vaccines section of the influential
Cochrane Collaboration, an independent group that reviews research, said:
New vaccines never behave in the way you expect them to. It may be that there is a link to GBS, which is certainly not something I would wish on anybody.

˜But it could end up being anything because one of the additives in one of the vaccines is a substance called Squalene, and none of the studies we've extracted have any research on it at all."

He said squalene, a naturally occurring enzyme, could potentially cause so-far-undiscovered side effects.

Jackie Fletcher, founder of vaccine support group Jabs, said:
˜The Government would not be anticipating this if they didn't think
there was a connection. What we've got is a massive guinea-pig trial.™

Professor Chinnery said:
˜During the last swine flu pandemic, it was observed that there was
an increased frequency of cases of GBS. No one knows whether it was the virus or the vaccine that caused this.
˜The purpose of the survey is for us to assess rapidly whether there is an
increase in the frequency of GBS when the vaccine is released in the UK.
It also increases consultants’ awareness of the condition."


Panic over?
The number of swine flu cases has fallen sharply in the past few weeks
˜This is a belt-and-braces approach to safety and is not something
people should be substantially worried about as it's a rare condition. If neurologists do identify a case of GBS, it will be logged on a central
database."

Details about patients, including blood samples, will be collected and monitored by the UK's HPA. It is hoped this will help scientists establish why some people
develop the condition and whether it is directly related to the vaccine.

But some question why there needs to be a vaccine, given the risks. Dr Richard Halvorsen, author of The Truth About Vaccines, said:
˜For people with serious underlying health problems,
the risk of dying from swine flu is probably greater
than the risk of side effects from the vaccine."

˜But it would be tragic if we repeated the US example and ended up with more casualties from the jabs.
˜I applaud the Government for recognising the risk but in most cases
this is a mild virus which needs a few days in bed. I'd question why we need a vaccine at all."

Professor Miller at the HPA said:
˜This monitoring system activates pandemic plans that have been in place for a
number of years. We'll be able to get information on whether a patient has had
a prior influenza illness and will look at whether influenza itself is linked to
GBS.

˜We are not expecting a link to the vaccine but a link to disease,
which would make having the vaccine even more important.
The UK's medicines watchdog, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, is already monitoring reported side effects from Tamiflu and Relenza
and it is set to extend that surveillance to the vaccine.

A Department of Health spokesperson said:
Â
˜The European Medicines Agency has strict processes in place
for licensing pandemic vaccines.

˜In preparing for a pandemic, appropriate trials to assess safety and the
immune responses have been carried out on vaccines very similar to the swine flu
vaccine.
The vaccines have been shown to have a good safety profile. It is extremely irresponsible to suggest that the UK would use a vaccine
without careful consideration of safety issues."
The UK has one of the most successful immunisation programmes in the world.


I COULDN''T EAT OR SPEAK... IT WAS HORRENDOUS


Victim:
Hilary Wilkinson spent three months in hospital
after she was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome

When Hilary Wilkinson woke up with muscle weakness in her left arm
and difficulty breathing, doctors initially put it down to a stroke.

But within hours, she was on a ventilator in intensive care
after being diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

She spent three months in hospital and had to learn how to talk and walk again.
But at times, when she was being fed through a drip and needed
a tracheotomy just to breathe, she doubted whether she would survive.
Â
The mother of two, 57, from Maryport, Cumbria, had been in good health
until she developed a chest infection in March 2006. She gradually became so weak she could not walk downstairs.

Doctors did not diagnose Guillain-Barre until her condition worsened
in hospital and tests showed her reflexes slowing down. It is impossible
for doctors to know how she contracted the disorder, although it is thought to be linked to some infections.

Mrs Wilkinson said:
"It was very scary. I couldn't eat and I couldn't speak. My arms and feet had no strength and breathing was hard. I was treated with immunoglobulin, which are proteins found in blood, to stop damage to my nerves. After ten days,
I still could not speak and had to mime to nurses or my family."

˜It was absolutely horrendous and I had no idea whether I would get through
it. You reach very dark moments at such times and wonder how long it can last.
But I'm a very determined person and I had lots of support."

After three weeks, she was transferred to a neurological ward,
where she had an MRI scan and nerve tests to assess the extent of the damage.

Still unable to speak and in a wheelchair, Mrs Wilkinson eventually began gruelling physiotherapy to improve her muscle strength and movement but it was exhausting and painful.

Three years later, she is almost fully recovered.

She can now walk for several miles at a time, has been abroad and carries out voluntary work for a GBS Support Group helpline.

She said:
˜It makes me feel wary that the Government is rolling out this vaccine
without any clear idea of the GBS risk, if any.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone and it certainly changed my life."

I'm frightened to have the swine flu vaccine if this might happen again
it's a frightening illness and I think more research
needs to be done on the effect of the vaccine.

Hotline staff given access to confidential records

Confidential NHS staff records and disciplinary complaints could be accessed
by hundreds of workers manning the Government special swine flu hotline.

They were able to browse through a database of emails containing doctors and
nurses National Insurance numbers, home addresses, dates of birth, mobile
phone numbers and scanned passport pages all details that could be used
fraudulently.

And private and confidential complaints sent by hospitals
about temporary medical staff – some of whom were named
– were also made available to the call-centre workers,
who were given a special password to log in to an internal NHS website.

It could be a breach of the Data Protection Act.
The hotline staff work for NHS Professionals was set up using
taxpayers' money to employ temporary medical and administrative staff for the health service.

The not-for-profit company runs two of the Government's swine flu call centres
with 300 staff in Farnborough, Hampshire, and 900 in Watford, Hertfordshire.

UK Health Secretary Andrew Lansley described the revelations
as disturbing. Anne Mitchell, a spokeswoman for Unison, said:
There's no excuse for such a fundamental breach of personal security.
Action needs to be taken as soon as possible to make sure this does not happen again.

A spokeswoman for NHS Professionals would not confirm
whether access to the confidential files had been granted.
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Going to Universal Single Payer Health Care, but that is not the future we are looking at.

Instead we have Big Health Insurance "Providers" and Big Pharma cooking up legislation to favor their profits. With the present Administration and Congress just lapping that up.

While the RW works itself into a frenzy, not over the truly scurrilous provisions of what is going down (Though sometimes they manage to object to the 1,000 plus pages of this) but rather no, their main objection is that somewhere someone might get something for free and thus avoid dying years before the actuarial tables suggest. And this objection is presented with the same vitriol that a rabid dog might shower upon its victim right before sinking the teeth to the carotid artery, and draining the person of their life.

So this vitriol pulls more people, who are in the center and to the left, to support WHATEVER offal we are offered,because that way we will show those crazed lunies that they cannot stop the Obama Administration.

In any other society on earth this whole process would propel someone with leadership abilities to come forward and lead the citizenry out of the miasma. But here it is just business as usual.