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Underground Panther in the Sky's Scratching Post
Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Wed May 20th 2009, 12:05 AM
As long as Washington remains wedded to the illusion that market-based medicine will cure health care's woes, tens of billions of dollars a year will continue to vanish in waste, inefficiency, fraud, and in profits to companies that make money by denying care.
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"It's horribly ironic," said Paul Menzel, a professor of philosophy at Pacific Lutheran University in Tacoma, Wash. The care of the poor once was supported by the wealthy and the insured, but now the opposite is happening, he said

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Although the "managed care" industry is quick to defend its actions with high-sounding justifications, their claims break down under examination. For example, can they really support the argument that the effects of "managed care" are necessary for the "good of society." What does this mean? Who should decide this? Can this be appropriately determined by the entity who stands to benefit the most from an economic definition of this "good"?

The systemic ethical problems in managed care require urgent correction in several areas: the monitoring of denials of care; the elimination of certain contracting arrangements with physicians; the requirement for full disclosures of financial arrangements, cost-cutting strategies, and consumer information; the development of open and reported grievance procedures; and the mandate of ethical guides and processes. How could the industry object? After all, this is just a way for "managed care" to apply its own processes of "quality management" and "outcome analysis" to itself?

Nothing less than the life and well-being of our society depends upon this. We have gone too far under our current system called "managed care." How much more harm and death must occur before we have the courage to do something about it?


Eye opening to say the least..Take some time reading this site! Click around!

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dis...

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dis...
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III. ETHICS FROM THE FRONTLINES

I wish to begin by making a public confession: In the spring of 1987, as a physician, I caused the death of a man.

Although this was known to many people, I have not been taken before any court of law or called to account for this in any professional or public forum. In fact, just the opposite occurred: I was "rewarded" for this. It bought me an improved reputation in my job, and contributed to my advancement afterwards. Not only did I demonstrate I could indeed do what was expected of me, I exemplified the "good" company doctor: I saved a half million dollars!

Since that day, I have lived with this act, and many others, eating into my heart and soul. For me, a physician is a professional charged with the care, or healing, of his or her fellow human beings. The primary ethical norm is: do no harm. I did worse: I caused a death. Instead of using a clumsy, bloody weapon, I used the simplest, cleanest of tools: my words. The man died because I denied him a necessary operation to save his heart. I felt little pain or remorse at the time. The man's faceless distance soothed my conscience. Like a skilled soldier, I was trained for this moment. When any moral qualms arose, I was to remember: I am not denying care; I am only denying payment.

http://www.nomanagedcare.org/DrPeenotestim...

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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Mon May 11th 2009, 01:06 AM



60 Million Persons in the US Negatively Affected By Someone Else's Pathology

How many people does pathology negatively affect?' We did a little math....There are 304 million persons in the U.S. 1 in 25 people will have the disorders associated with 'no conscience' which include anti-social personality disorder, sociopath, and psychopath. 304 million divided by 25 is 12.16 million have no conscience. Each anti social/psychopath will have approximately 5 partners who will be exposed to their pathology = 60.8 million people!

(This does not include the children negatively affected and since psychopaths are hypersexual they tend to have lots of children so we could certainly tack on about half that number for children based on 2.5 children per psychopath. And sadly, this does not include all the other forms of pathology related to Cluster B personality disorders that also negatively impact others such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Borderline Personality Disorder. Current stats say that narcissism affects approximately 1% of the population ...But if we begin even with just the statistics on 1 in 25 have no conscience and multiply that out to figure out how many wounded people are out there---it's a huge issue. )
The Institute's friend, Howard, who was trained in psychiatry, said "I consider this to be the country's number one public health issue." And with good reason---60 million people negatively impacted by someone else's extreme pathology. There is the emotional impact--the aftermath symptoms that leave 50% of the people with PTSD. That's about equal with the % of war vets who come home with PTSD from Iraq and other wars.

This emotional aftermath (with or without PTSD) causes treatable mental health symptoms like cognitive dissonance, intrusive thoughts, sleep disruptions, increase use of alcohol, concentration problems, flashbacks, and paranoia.The emotional aftermath affects the work environment causing almost 50% of the persons negatively affected to have to cut back from full time to part time, be demoted taking lesser money, or go on short term disability for aftermath symptoms causing MILLIONS of dollars in lost wages.

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The aftermath also affects children who are then put into counseling, needs school-based services because of acting-out and behavioral problems, are distracted, suffer with declining grades, some will go on to have their own genetic transmission of their parent's personality disorder and others will be pseudo-affected---acting like the pathological but without the transmission but still requiring a lot of therapy to overcome their patterns. This doesn't include the abject neglect that kids go through when being 'watched' by the pathological--often malnourished, not on a schedule, not put to bed on time, exposed to high risk behavior (porn, drugs, lots of sexual partners, violence, other criminal types) and the child has a lot to over come. Since many of the personality disorders are parasitic by nature, they are also dead beats by nature not paying child support (even if they can afford to) causing another lag on the government services while children need Medicaid and other benefits.

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(Are you furious yet?)

This cluster of pathologicals with impaired moral reasoning, high impulsivity and hyper sexuality are those most likely to practice high risk sexual behaviors and thus have resulting STDs that they willingly share with others causing public health concerns.
This high impulsivity and low responsibility results in DUIs, speeding tickets, and jacked up insurance rates.When we wonder if pathology and the lack of a national public awareness campaign is 'really' an issue we should consider that 'AT LEAST' 60 million people are being affected by someone else's pathology ---and pathology is increasing as more women have children with them and as more children are being raised by them, thus influenced by them.

www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com

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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Thu May 07th 2009, 04:32 AM

BEIJING, May 4 (Xinhuanet) -- Children who are constantly bullied are at greater risk for developing psychotic symptoms such as hallucinations or delusions as they hit adolescence.

British researchers said Monday children who were consistently victimized by their peers at ages 8 or 10 were twice as likely to have psychotic symptoms by the time they hit adolescence. That risk was even greater if the bullying was particularly chronic or severe.

Researcher Andrea Schreier, PhD, of Warwick Medical School at the University of Warwick in England, and colleagues said bullying -- especially when it is severe or chronic -- can have serious consequences for some children, and may even act as a trigger for people who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia.

The study, published in the Archives of General Psychiatry, included more than 6,400 children in Bristol, England, who were evaluated annually from ages 7 to about 13.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-05/...


This study is not bullshit,Because what was shown in that study,it happened to me. I was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic for years,because by the time I lost it,(around age 13)psychiatry itself was still in denial about the effects of trauma and bullying on people's mental health.The shrinks gave me ever increasing doses of anti-psychotic drugs of different types and none"worked".Because I was not really schizophrenic, I was traumatized bullied for years until I just cracked up,the "hallucinations" were alters. It is amazing to me that people haven't figured out how abuse triggers mental illness and how being around abusive people and psychopaths authoritarian and narcissistic personality types actually harms people unfortunate enough to grow up or attend school and be around the toxic personality types. Certain personality types, behaviors and abuses they do to others and the bystander effect,the just world theory and enabling all combine into a very crazy making mix for those targeted by bullies.

We need to do something with the toxic people in our midst, the abusers,the bullies, control freaks,assholes and fake'alpha' types.
http://fact.on.ca/news/news0001/np000107.h...
They are who cause humanity to be so messed up.
The Inuit were onto something with the bullies/psychopaths in their midst. They would observe the person without a conscience, and one day the hunters would take this asshole on a hunting trip,push the tyrant bully into the ice and let him die there,and because they did not tolerate bullies in their culture their lives were more peaceful,and humane.Not perfect but BETTER off...without toxic bullies.
http://www.ranprieur.com/readings/american...
And interestingly primitive cultures have better outcomes from mental illness than"developed" nations.
http://books.google.com/books?id=2IoOAAAAQ...
Wonder why?
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_cu...

http://ponerology.blogspot.com/2008/04/how...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article....
Psychopaths make up just 4% of the total U.S. population, but the damage and devastation they wreak is extreme and widespread.

Psychopaths, also known as sociopaths, comprise 20-25% of the prison population, but 50% of those who have committed serious crimes. However, the majority of psychopaths are not violent—most are users, scam artists and shady businesspeople. There is some evidence that psychopaths may be overrepresented in the fields of business, politics and entertainment.

Read more: http://personalitydisorders.suite101.com/a...


Read about how eliminating bullies changed a culture in a babboon colony.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/...
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Mon Mar 23rd 2009, 02:23 AM

Investments at the Bottom of the Social Pyramid Produce Results
Market Watch
Posted on October 27, 2008
Turns out that the best return on investment lies with the poor, not the rich.

A Moody's analysis earlier this year shows the government gets the biggest bang for its buck by spending increases. A whopping $1.73 increase in gross domestic product is returned for every dollar the Treasury spends by increasing food stamps, for example. This compares with a $1.02 return by a nonrefundable lump-sum tax rebate and a $1.26 return on a refundable lump-sum tax rebate, according to Moody's. Turns out that the best return on investment lies with the poor, not the rich.


http://www.nextbillion.net/news/investment...
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Wed Feb 25th 2009, 09:18 PM
THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS CANDID
The Federal Reserve itself is amazingly frank about this process. A booklet published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York tells us: "Currency cannot be redeemed, or exchanged, for Treasury gold or any other asset used as backing. The question of just what assets 'back' Federal Reserve notes has little but bookkeeping significance." Elsewhere in the same publication we are told: "Banks are creating money based on a borrower's promise to pay (the IOU). Banks create money by 'monetizing' the private debts of businesses and individuals."

In a booklet entitled Modern Money Mechanics, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago says: In the United States neither paper currency nor deposits have value as commodities. Intrinsically, a dollar bill is just a piece of paper. Deposits are merely book entries. Coins do have some intrinsic value as metal, but generally far less than their face amount. What, then, makes these instruments--checks, paper money, and coins--acceptable at face value in payment of all debts and for other monetary uses?
Mainly, it is the confidence people have that they will be able to exchange such money for other financial assets and real goods and services whenever they choose to do so. This partly is a matter of law; currency has been designated "legal tender" by the government--that is, it must be accepted.


*my comment*(in other words tthe BELIEF that paper can be exchanged for food or a house for instance. That's why CONSUMER CONfidence is such a big deal now)

In the fine print of a footnote in a bulletin of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, we find this surprisingly candid explanation: Modern monetary systems have a fiat base--literally money by decree--with depository institutions, acting as fiduciaries, creating obligations against themselves with the fiat base acting in part as reserves. The decree appears on the currency notes: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." While no individual could refuse to accept such money for debt repayment, exchange contracts could easily be composed to thwart its use in everyday commerce. However, a forceful explanation as to why money is accepted is that the federal government requires it as payment for tax liabilities. Anticipation of the need to clear this debt creates a demand for the pure fiat dollars.

MONEY WOULD VANISH WITHOUT DEBT

It is difficult for Americans to come to grips with the fact that their total money-supply is backed by nothing but debt, and it is even more mind boggling to visualize that, if everyone paid back all that was borrowed, there would be no money left in existence. That's right, there would not be one penny in circulation--all coins and all paper currency would be returned to bank vaults--and there would be not one dollar in any one's checking account. In short, all money would disappear.

http://www.globalallianceassnnew.org/html/...

*pouf*

Who benefits from all of this? Certainly not the average citizen. The only beneficiaries are the political scientists in Congress who enjoy the effect of unlimited revenue to perpetuate their power, and the monetary scientists within the banking cartel called the Federal Reserve System who have been able to harness the American people, without their knowing it, to the yoke of modern feudalism.
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Wed Feb 25th 2009, 08:56 PM
Bankers know how to create money out of thin air. In fact, banks are money factories. Banks exist to make money. You might think that banks are in business to provide services such as banking accounts and loans to their customers. It's true that banks provide essential financial services. However, the reason that the banks provide such services is that banks need money to use as raw material to create more money. Where does this money come from? It comes from customer deposits. In other words, it comes from the money you and I deposit into the bank.

Notice very carefully, banks "create" money. It's not simply that banks "earn" profits when they provide bank services and loans. Banks actually "create" new money that did not exist before.

Here is an example of how banks create money. You deposit $100,000 into a one-year Certificate of Deposit at 5% interest. The bank now can use your money to create loans.
The Federal Reserve sets the reserve rate for the bank from 3-10%. A 3% reserve rate means that the bank must keep 3% of the $100,000 on reserve and can loan the remaining 97%. A 10% reserve rate means that the bank must keep 10% of the $100,000 on reserve and can loan the remaining 90%. For our example, let's assume that the reserve rate is 10%. This allows the bank to loan $90,000 of your $100,000 deposit.

So, the bank makes Loan #1 of $90,000 and keeps $10,000 on reserve. This is the critical point where the bank creates money. According to the bank's balance sheet, the $90,000 loan to the borrower is also a $90,000 asset for the bank. By its own brand of money magic, the bank has created $90,000 out of thin air.

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Banks-Create...

The only thing backing up the 'market now is user confidence and theories in economists heads,and who's willing to bet on it.
We've been had people.Fuck the Fed!!!

Ten dirty tricks to prop up a massive fraud!
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/128241/1...
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Mon Jan 19th 2009, 10:17 PM
In Honor of this January, National Poverty Month..



Taken from the Sermon at Temple Israel of Hollywood speech...

The affluent nations, the “have” nations must join in the grand alliance to do something about this. And not only must we look abroad, we can look in our own nation. We will discover that there are some 10 million families that are considered poverty stricken families. These families have an average of four or five members, which means there are some 40 -- between 40 and 50 million of our brothers and sisters in this country who are poverty stricken. There they find themselves perishing on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. And certainly if we are to be a great nation, we must solve this problem. Now there is nothing new about poverty. What is new that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of it.

Some years ago a thoughtful Englishman by the name of Malthus frightened the world by discussing the problem -- the joint problem of production and population. He reached the conclusion in a book that the world was moving toward universal famine because man’s population -- the population rather, was outrunning man’s capacity to produce. But it didn’t take many years after that for many other people to reveal that Malthus was wrong, that he grossly underestimated the resources of the world and the resourcefulness of man. It was Dr. Kirtley Mather, a Harvard geologist a few years ago who wrote a book entitled Enough and to Spare. He said in substance throughout that book that there is enough and to spare in this world for all men to have the basic necessities of life. It boils down to the question of whether men and women in this nation are willing to be concerned about the least of these. A great nation is a compassionate nation. Who are the least of these? The least of these are those who still find themselves smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in an affluent society. Who are the least of these? They are the thousands of individuals who see life as a long and desolate corridor with no exit sign. Who are the least of these? They are the little boys and little girls who grow up with clouds of inferiority floating in their little mental skies because they know that they are caught in conditions of economic deprivation. Who are the least of these? They are the individuals who are caught in the fatigue of despair. And somehow if we are to be a great nation, we must be concerned about the least of these, our brothers. And we’ve been in the mountain of indifference too long and ultimately we must be concerned about the least of these; we must be concerned about the poverty-stricken because our destinies are tied together. And somehow in the final analysis, as long as there is poverty in the world, nobody can be totally rich. We are all caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/m...


Taken from from MLK's speech "I've Been to the Mountaintop"...

It's all right to talk about "long white robes over yonder," in all of its symbolism. But ultimately people want some suits and dresses and shoes to wear down here! It's all right to talk about "streets flowing with milk and honey," but God has commanded us to be concerned about the slums down here, and his children who can't eat three square meals a day. It's all right to talk about the new Jerusalem, but one day, God's preacher must talk about the new New York, the new Atlanta, the new Philadelphia, the new Los Angeles, the new Memphis, Tennessee. This is what we have to do.

Now the other thing we'll have to do is this: Always anchor our external direct action with the power of economic withdrawal. Now, we are poor people. Individually, we are poor when you compare us with white society in America. We are poor. Never stop and forget that collectively -- that means all of us together -- collectively we are richer than all the nations in the world, with the exception of nine. Did you ever think about that? After you leave the United States, Soviet Russia, Great Britain, West Germany, France, and I could name the others, the American Negro collectively is richer than most nations of the world. We have an annual income of more than thirty billion dollars a year, which is more than all of the exports of the United States, and more than the national budget of Canada. Did you know that? That's power right there, if we know how to pool it.

We don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles. We don't need any Molotov cocktails. We just need to go around to these stores, and to these massive industries in our country, and say, "God sent us by here, to say to you that you're not treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda fair treatment, where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you."

And so, as a result of this, we are asking you tonight, to go out and tell your neighbors not to buy Coca-Cola in Memphis. Go by and tell them not to buy Sealtest milk. Tell them not to buy -- what is the other bread? -- Wonder Bread. And what is the other bread company, Jesse? Tell them not to buy Hart's bread. As Jesse Jackson has said, up to now, only the garbage men have been feeling pain; now we must kind of redistribute the pain. We are choosing these companies because they haven't been fair in their hiring policies; and we are choosing them because they can begin the process of saying they are going to support the needs and the rights of these men who are on strike. And then they can move on town -- downtown and tell Mayor Loeb to do what is right.

But not only that, we've got to strengthen black institutions. I call upon you to take your money out of the banks downtown and deposit your money in Tri-State Bank. We want a "bank-in" movement in Memphis. Go by the savings and loan association. I'm not asking you something that we don't do ourselves at SCLC. Judge Hooks and others will tell you that we have an account here in the savings and loan association from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. We are telling you to follow what we are doing. Put your money there. You have six or seven black insurance companies here in the city of Memphis. Take out your insurance there. We want to have an "insurance-in."

Now these are some practical things that we can do. We begin the process of building a greater economic base. And at the same time, we are putting pressure where it really hurts. I ask you to follow through here.
Now, let me say as I move to my conclusion that we've got to give ourselves to this struggle until the end. Nothing would be more tragic than to stop at this point in Memphis. We've got to see it through. And when we have our march, you need to be there. If it means leaving work, if it means leaving school -- be there. Be concerned about your brother. You may not be on strike. But either we go up together, or we go down together.

Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness. One day a man came to Jesus, and he wanted to raise some questions about some vital matters of life. ..read more..

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/m...

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Here are my thoughts...

Dangerous Unselfishness,what a great noble, concept!! A concept scary as hell itself to those who have too much,who prefer security and things over freedom and facing the unknown honestly..To them they'd prefer we dare not speak it's name let alone embrace it.

But embracing this dangerous unselfishness is one way to forever keep power away from plunderers in suits like Enron..To disarm injustice and be sure no one sleeps in the cold and dies stuck to the pavement because no one cared..Caring isn't easy,it takes risk,it can be awkward frustrating, it hurts it doesn't make you rich or get you rewarded,but to me, I do it because I care it is right action,and in a world filled with corruption, right action is dangerous..

And,for me even though my income is below poverty level I still prefer being dangerously unselfish to hoarding up crap I don't need..When I feel burdened by things, I give my stuff away,why keep what I don't use around gathering dust for a "rainy day" that never arrives?

I wonder what would happen if we ALL learned how to be Dangerously unselfish here,than we on DU went out there offline,and taught all around us willing to embrace this liberating,equalizing dangerous world changing concept? Unburdened ourselves,and became Dangerously Unselfish?

I think Dangerous Unselfishness was a central part of MLK's dream being realized.A black president has made one mountain,racism crumble in a way it can never be the monster it was..But..
Are you ready to become dangerous enough to change the very foundations of ALL those mountains MLK referred to in his Temple speech,the first one I quoted from???

You dangerous enough to walk with me?




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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Wed Dec 31st 2008, 01:35 AM
to those that give them more power(or money,sexual favors,gifts etc.),and those who threaten their place of power.
Otherwise you are invisible,basically.
Threaten them and you might find yourself in danger.
Or be rich enough to buy them,or close to them so you are considered part of their circle.All weilders of power build a circle of people to insulate themselves from others and hide within or use certain less valued members as patsies or to 'fall on the sword' for the big kahuna.

Look at who the riot police attack and what is not reported or is under reported. There you will see who is a threat.

Anarchists apparently scare the living shit out of the G8 and the more'capitalist' power mongers.They call out all sorts of police to keep them away from their clandestine meetings.

http://struggle.ws/a_news/an25_genoa.html

Food Not Bombs for instance threatens them because they GIVE AWAY food to homeless people. This is because having control over food and who has the"privlege" of eating or drinking is a way to control a population.

The most desperate threaten them because they have nothing to lose if they should mobilize.
People who believe death makes them a martyr threaten them because they cannot be cowed by death or threat of death or even torture.

These people threaten the authoritarian operations of this so called democracy.

Become a threat you will see.
An empire that is in any form authoritarian cannot tolerate a community with equality and sharing within it's owned and corporate lands.

They will destroy it.

That's why Abbie Hoffman's Free Store was firebombed.The hippies scared the shit out of the authoritarians. Like always.

Because of Stanley Milgram's results.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/9...

Because of Bullies
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/seria...

And Social engineering
http://hubpages.com/hub/What-is-social-eng...

There are many more reasons why people get it wrong when they put hope in the masses to be disobedient or to stand up against abusers of power.
Most people seem to have an OUTER locus of control and unable to lead themselves.The masses are also manipulated by power and authority and it's symbols and implicit threats.And most people hate to admit they are vulnerable to manipulation,which ironically makes people easier to manipulate.

We do not live in a democracy, it only has the appearance of one.

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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Mon Dec 15th 2008, 03:18 PM
…There are only two possible ways in which a world of 10 billion people can be averted. Either the current birth rates must come down more quickly. Or the current death rates must go up. There is no other way. There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up.
http://www.dieoff.org /
http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/A...
http://dprogram.net/population-control /
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Kissinger’s 1974 Plan for Food Control Genocide

by Joseph Brewda
Dec. 8, 1995

On Dec. 10, 1974, the U.S. National Security Council under Henry Kissinger completed a classified 200-page study, “National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” The study falsely claimed that population growth in the so-called Lesser Developed Countries (LDCs) was a grave threat to U.S. national security. Adopted as official policy in November 1975 by President Gerald Ford, NSSM 200 outlined a covert plan to reduce population growth in those countries through birth control, and also, implicitly, war and famine. Brent Scowcroft, who had by then replaced Kissinger as national security adviser (the same post Scowcroft was to hold in the Bush administration), was put in charge of implementing the plan. CIA Director George Bush was ordered to assist Scowcroft, as were the secretaries of state, treasury, defense, and agriculture.

The bogus arguments that Kissinger advanced were not original. One of his major sources was the Royal Commission on Population, which King George VI had created in 1944 “to consider what measures should be taken in the national interest to influence the future trend of population.” The commission found that Britain was gravely threatened by population growth in its colonies, since “a populous country has decided advantages over a sparsely-populated one for industrial production.” The combined effects of increasing population and industrialization in its colonies, it warned, “might be decisive in its effects on the prestige and influence of the West,” especially effecting “military strength and security.”


Food as a weapon

There were several measures that Kissinger advocated to deal with this alleged threat, most prominently, birth control and related population-reduction programs. He also warned that “population growth rates are likely to increase appreciably before they begin to decline,” even if such measures were adopted.

A second measure was curtailing food supplies to targeted states, in part to force compliance with birth control policies: “There is also some established precedent for taking account of family planning performance in appraisal of assistance requirements by AID and consultative groups. Since population growth is a major determinant of increases in food demand, allocation of scarce PL 480 resources should take account of what steps a country is taking in population control as well as food production. In these sensitive relations, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion.”

“Mandatory programs may be needed and we should be considering these possibilities now,” the document continued, adding, “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? ... Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can't/won't control their population growth?
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/a...
http://www.fdrs.org/food_as_a_weapon.html
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Look at the threats to our health in our food here right now ..Some of this is due to this "accidentally on purpose" game.Like the lack of inspections due to the de-funding of the FDA?USDA etc.,Then rampant greed of corporations ,and of course outright criminality,yet it is tolerated,even scuttled out of public view and the information about what is going on with our food is even sometimes repressed.Why? Control the world's food supply you control the world.
This barely scrapes the surface...We are being slowly murdered by the lifestyle we are accustomed to.And there is profits in misery,sickness and problems.

Melamine..
http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/t/refer... /
http://animohosting.com/main/melamine /
http://www.wattpoultry.com/Blogs.aspx?id=2...

It can get worse than Melamine when profiteers go looking for cheap sources of protien...
http://www.foodproductiondaily.com/Process...

Pesticides..
http://www.who.int/foodsafety/chem/en /
http://www.consumersunion.org/food/organic...
http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0996/et0996s...

Mad Cow..
http://www.mad-cow.org /

GM foods..
http://proliberty.com/observer/20060907.ht...
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/a...
http://ci-shift.com/jason-mccormick/blog/c...
http://afgen.com/clon49.html

PCB's Hormones etc.
http://extoxnet.orst.edu/faqs/foodcon/pcb....
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/env...
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/rbgh_ho...
http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_rel...

Contamination..
http://www.cin.ba/Stories/P7_Food/?cid=492...
http://njaes.rutgers.edu/foodsafety/salmon...


Gutting of safety regulations and meaningless organic labels.
http://www.upc-online.org/organic/meaningl...
http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/foodorga...
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005...


Paying more for less food..
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/...
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-shri...

Drugs in food..
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/u...
http://www.codexalimentarius.net/mrls/vetd...
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story....
http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture...

Deliberate waste of food..for profit's sake...
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagena...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...

Fake food
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1719516/bewa... /
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,...
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Zq-y3v...

Make some more Poor!!
http://www.lahomelessblog.org/2008/06/cars...
http://www.newsandletters.org/Issues/2008/...
http://www.housingaright.org/articles-BB.h...
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/104338/t... /


Than kill the poor!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/11/23/...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/a...
http://chosenfast.com/2008/10/22/homeless-... /
http://www.alterinfos.org/spip.php?article...
http://books.google.com/books?id=qfnrMAg95...
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Fri Nov 14th 2008, 12:09 AM
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness".John Kenneth Galbraith

"A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy".
Benjamin Disraeli

Republicans want freedom FROM the human social contract that helps humanity live in relative peace together..The right wing wants to be able to bully,steal,pressure/control others,manipulate, lie,take advantage of others, never share,be greedy as they can, get something for nothing,and do it as much as they want to the least among us with NO consequences. They want power without responsibility obligation or even sharing of power.The "freedom" republicans defend are the freedoms of bad people who seek to abuse and manipulate other people with no consequences ..That is what the republicans are really SCARED of losing, now that the Dem's are in the House.. And it is a GOOD thing they fear us.The outside pressure progressives enact through limits and regulations on the behavior of conservatives,is necessary. Those external controls on their predatory and parasitism that is what republicans hate,about Democrats.They do not get it that progressive power limits the damage they can do to the social contract ,a nation and others lives all around them with those chronic conservative behaviors of greed bullying,theft and abuse of power.

Conservatism creates nothing ,it preys upon others creativity,and well being.Conservatives seek to the keep the authoritarian status quo the same.Conservatism is a greedy arrogant feudal belief system,it relies on perpetuating over-obedience to authority and an unjust social hierarchy.Conservatism encourages bullying, ignorance and blind faith,for that is the republican base..It relies on people believing humanity is evil 100% and that the weak and impoverished are inferior and thus are treated as lessors. This kind of hierarchical culture ultimately is anti-life,anti-love ,anti-compassion ,and anti- social contract.


"The disappearance of a sense of responsibility is the most far-reaching consequence of submission to authority".Stanley Milgram


Progressives and Democrats on the other hand, are not afraid of using power and resources to help others. Help with things like progressive taxes, gay people marrying,universal health care or homeless shelters in their neighborhoods.This is because liberals understand the importance of taking care of each other.They know it IS the essential essence of the human social contract they are upholding.The Progressives seek to LIMIT what abusers of power and wealth can get away with doing to others less able to defend themselves or each other.

The obligations we have as human beings to look out for each other and our well being if we are to live well and in peace together is a RESPONSIBILITY and obligation each person has in maintaining freedom for all.To have freedom for all,one must be willing to give to others to protect that freedom.So Democrats believe in innocence until proven guilty..The Democrats know when as many people as possible are freed from the burdens of poverty,health issues,domestic violence,are more educated,and more aware of others not like themselves are human too,and freeing as many as possible from the suffering and grinding despair of loneliness http://www.lifewatch-eap.com/poc/view_doc....
and ease the"human condition" .This is why we need each other and this contract,mutual well being and survival is why we created civilizations to begin with.

Compassion without "conservatism" brings more joy and freedom to all.Even conservatives but they'll NEVER admit it.

"To care for anyone else enough to make their problems one's own, is ever the beginning of one's real ethical development".Felix Adler:
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Tue Oct 28th 2008, 03:14 AM
My new roommate,she is going through some tough times.She was homeless and told no one. A week or so ago she fessed up.She's staying here for two weeks until her boyfriend(he has a place to stay but she cannot stay there with him) and her have an apartment lined up together.She has been exhausted. And just tonight she said she finally felt warm.She has pressure bruises on her hips and arms from sleeping on sidewalk.She has Crohn’s disease.

Well she told me a scary thing today.

She and a few other people went to a food giveaway today ,and she came back with nothing. I asked her why.. She said..

The lines of people to get food snaked out of the building through the parking lot,out into the street.She waited for hours in the cold rain in the line . They closed up,out of food,and tons of people were turned away.

This happened in a town, a "nice" suburban town,one that some in the city think is "upscale".
Out here the income inequality is STARK.If you bother to LOOK.
The Homeless and poor here are scuttled AWAY from the nice homes and town areas of manicured flowerbeds and clean sidewalks of,Aberdeen.
In Aberdeen There is a big tent city..There is a smaller tent city in Bel Air.All the help these folks can get from our greedy ass oblivious idiots in power here is a big fat nothing. It's like the state and county WANT all these people to DIE off!
In Harford County there is one place hands out pop up tents,another hands out blankets one for each person..That is IT. Republican policies to the poor are in action here. It is sickening the way things are here.

The housing previously that existed for the poor are gone now.The state piggies cut the social safety net to please the rich and corporate assholes. The homeless will DIE before any 'precious' fucking millionaire pays ANY fucking taxes,to keep someone else alive.


These resentful wannabe millionaires the middle class bigots out here writing hateful tripe in the local papers(the republican tainted paper actually thinks this shit is FIT to print!!)

The local bigots do not stop and THINK before they shoot off their bigoted mouths in public. ALWAYS I hear the assumption,the resentment,the pretense that a poor person MUST be dreadfully irresponsible,a pervert,malingerer or thief. Always these "letters" boil down to how morally inferior poor people or homeless people are compared to the self righteous ,comfortable,resentful middle class bigots.

It's fucking nauseating all the poor bashing here.It's really vile how bigots get their poverty bashing crap printed in the local papers.

The bigots line the street to protest a homeless shelter NIMBY rears it's festering rotting empty head and it's black heart bleats of the MONEY,"property values" and the"children"!!

Poor people suffer and the smug don't care and they fancy themselves so fucking wonderful.They say shit like poor people are all hoodlums and perverts they claim shit like that ..Over and over and I do not hear many voices COUNTERING the bigots..This town is infested with that republican toxic "I got mine so fuck everyone else" mentality.

I wish these assholes would THINK before they wrote,maybe they'd consider maybe that scary homeless family living in that SUV ,got the SUV when the parents HAD jobs.

Maybe that homeless bum wearing some "designer"clothes,had them given to them or maybe the clothes were hand-me-downs from more well off family members?

No, the bigots they'd rather scapegoat,just go on assuming and scapegoat the poor for existing.Fuck the busybody poor bashing bigots, fuck them ALL.

And I am sick of their shit..I am sick of hearing the HATE directed at the poor and homeless.

I DO blame the well off people for their own narcissistic,ass-holiness and stunning ignorance,their INHUMANITY, and their failure to step out of their closed little 'privileged' world to offer compassion,and * gasp* pay some MONEY to help the suffering.The suffering here is carefully hidden from the places the well off go, between the back lots,in the library and the laundry mat on bitter cold nights,and managed by cops that make sure no one exhausted clutters the empty sidewalks at 4 am in Aberdeen. The cops are there to keep the homeless out of sight,of the well off not to help them.Always in this town property and profits are put over people.

I hope the well off will lose a job,become homeless, maybe because of a medical debt or a foreclosure.They need to taste the bitter rejection ,resentment and hate they dumped upon others.

Suburban inhumanity,indifference and callous cruelty,thy name is NIMBY, Contempt, More likely, hate.
The Anger I feel about all this shit,makes me want to go to Annapolis into the state house and scream at these oblivious pampered ass politicians. I want to DARE them to live in the tent city for a month.Dare them to TRY it,see if they can hack it,call them COWARDS and losers if they do not take up the challenge.

Sadly I know the only way a rich pig out here is EVER going to have a farts chance in a whirlwind to develop any empathy for anyone outside their own richie rich clique is to be FORCED by circumstances or an angry mob to move to the goddamn tent city and fucking LUMP IT with everyone else.

I wish there was a way to FORCE political and business assholes who think nothing of slashing social services and such,to make more profits to be homeless. I wish there was a way to force them to have to sleep in a fucking tent with a blanket in the middle of February.

I hate fucking rich people who sit there in Annapolis in the luxury afforded the privileged who do not think of the poor at all as they draft grandiose plans of yet more Mini-malls,Mc Mansions and monuments.

They do not bother themselves with doing anything USEFUL like improving public transport,or even putting sidewalks down so people without cars can walk somewhere without risking life and limb.

The pieces of shit in Harford County government and Annapolis are such stupid ,petty, oblivious,greedy,decadent,narcissistic, criminal,corporate ass kisser parasites. They all make me sick.

Why do I hate the rich? I hate the rich because, the rich hated the poor first.The rich hate the poor because poverty is the result of the rich people's unending immoral greed.Poor people remind the rich of the consequences of their own unbridled greed,the fruits the rich so enjoy taking more of than everyone else.

So the rich hated the poor first.For if they really didn't hate the poor first,the priorities would be drastically different than they are. Who would be condemned to sleeping in a tent in this town freezing to death if the rich actually cared about others less fortunate? No one.

Despite my anger..
I fear for all those people I saw out there when I helped my new roomie get her shit together,when winter hits. A pop up tent and blanket will not do much when the bitter cold of Maryland winters.


I am so goddamn infuriated at the obvious class war going on right here it makes me seethe. I am tired of the poor having no voice politically.It's always middle class this or that.I hate being INVISIBLE!!!If you are not well off the class war issue is obvious, but if you are comfortable in this fucking town,it's easy to slip into denial,and pretend that there is a social safety net for everyone in Harford County.Because the homeless are hidden.


From what I seen There is NOTHING here as in services or help for people in need here.And it is tragic how fast the numbers of homeless have shot up in this area,and everyday there are more and more foreclosure signs.Jobs are scarce out here.

The Brac seems to not affect the lives of the people that find themselves living in tents yet.The homeless they get up at 4 am to go to a place that hires them day by day for laborers. If you get there too late there might not be any work and you'll be SOL..
Also with all the fear and bullshit pandered around concerning illegal immigrants how long will places that hire on a day to day basis for laborers exist?

It's insulting to see the fucked up priorities politicians have in this town..

I wonder how long until the food riots start?
When will it be a crime to not have a home,a fucking car or money?
How long until the asshole politicians feel uneasy in their chairs enough to cough up the funds for the social safety net?
When will the well off be FORCED to PAY their fair share in taxes so that services to help people might be able to actually HELP them?

What will it take to make the comfortable UNCOMFORTABLE enough to change their selfish priorities?

When is enough enough?

What will it take to get the biggest pigs and their sociopath hog jowls and the smarmy developer parasites out of the state and county funds trough?

Will it take alot of pissed off hurting people with nothing to lose getting together and finally taking these parasites down to Earth, humiliating the living shit out of them,and maybe making them feel the soul grinding experience of being poor for once?

When the next food giveaway happens I am going to go there ,not for food (unless I really need it) .I am going to take pictures of this mess ,and the tent city and do a video an eloquent yet scathing indictment of Harford county's ass backward policies the comfortable ones in this fucked up town NEEDS to SEE..
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Sun Oct 12th 2008, 05:56 PM
Really deep down past all politics, There is a war of two types.
Two types of personalities,who thrive in two different kinds of cultures.

The sociopath/authoritarian/bully/narcissist personality types..
Who thrive in authoritarian,competitive,selfish,ruthless greedy hierarchical types of cultures,a leader in this culture dominates all underneath,a cancer/hive mind like arrangement that fears changes, strives for cultural uniformity,dominates,uses,abuses people,kills things it can't conquer or understand,lets leaders take and expects nothing in return,conquers nature by destroying it and consuming it..until death.They HATE us.But they need us to abuse and they exploit us and pretend they can do without us.They are predatory parasites operating in a hierarchical structure,to exploit whatever it can and give nothing in return.It has a pyramid shape.The tip is for the few "self made" false "leaders" and each social strata layer below the top obeys the layer above, and it rests upon the backs and suffering of those below.And there are alot of people on the very bottom suffering and powerless and heavily exploited.


VS

Everyone else.Those who can get along together without exploitation at someone else's expense.non predatory,cooperative,shares tasks, isn't threatened by diversity, welcomes changes,understands egalitarianism,respects relationships and obligations,shares,and loves,and helps those less strong and fortunate,the leaders of these cultures are there to make each person a leader of them self..The leaders are not given power over people they are expected to give more to others than he takes in a egalitarian type of culture. Relationships are horizontal networks.

This difference in the personalities is not clearly drawn in black or white at first glance most of the time however.
But there are clear boundaries,each of us have and when they are broken,repeatedly the violations create a pattern of abuse that can trace behaviors that over time will reveal the nature of a person's character no matter how he talks or appears at the time.This over time observation concerning relationships to boundaries can reveal alot about a person,a family,a 'leader', a corporation, or even a government.This corruption was recognized in the US Bill of rights even.

This conflict of types of persons has been ongoing problem just under the surface of issues regarding religion, politics,economics, justice, childrearing, and just about every other issue that impacts our lives. The root of all this conflict continues unseen as long as we DO NOT recognize being around ,or giving power to certain personality types as dangers to our collective and individual health.
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/ACE /

What the more idealistic decent people don't understand is certain toxic personalities won't change and be nice if you just give them compassion because IT IS WHO they ARE.
What makes them so mean greedy or abusive is WHO THEY ARE..These toxic people see themselves as perfect and in no need of changing.
Sop they'll just play along sucking you dry until they get bored or move on.
http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm

Society denies the damage their personality causes to all of us who are NOT LIKE THEM.Traumatizing us in any way a bully can to TRY to make US like THEM is their answer.Teaching us to HATE victims,teaching us to minimize our own outrage at being harmed used,abused of taken advantage of,and they teach us to BLAME ourselves first,they exploit and twist our sense of responsibility to each other and our remorse at what happened to get away with more abuse..

Ever wonder why so little of the vast government fund's go to child welfare and domestic abuse,or rape crisis,monetary help for destitute people,or feeding the homeless? Why do victims get shamed or minimized or ignored or even people by-stand as a person is being victimized? Meanwhile why do Ceo's getting HUGE salaries and golden parachutes get billions of welfare to save these bad companies run by these ruthless irresponsible greedy bullies,that were so irresponsible? Do they have no SHAME?

In fact no,they have no shame.and if you observe they shamelessly want more and pressure congress to give it to them as they go to posh resorts.They will shamelessly take until they can no longer get away with it because of who they are their personality types...And that shapes the priorities they have.
http://www.globalissues.org/issue/235/cons...

The bullies of the world do protect their own kind somewhat, they share a predatory mindset that insures they keep power to themselves and keep others under control.They have similar enough agendas to act together to do crimes or exploit nations.There IS the Good 'ole boy networks.Sadly our protective kin networks have been seriously undermined by the way our society is structured around jobs and consumerism ,and by who has power over it...

Too often in our society the victim is labeled .You do not see the real person. Even in charity, one gives not to a real person but to an organization. And people are forced to go through bureaucratic hoops fro assistance, all the while feeling diminished as a victim, or as being poor.
http://groups.google.com/group/bpf-tampaba...

That cultural reaction to disrespect the victim is no accident,for a victim has a voice that if heard and acted upon by too many people could destroy the networks,schemes of a predatory toxic person or corporation.It could blow the cover and the game.

Because our culture has been traumatized and trained by authoritarian based institutions like, parents ,church ,school,jobs,all are top down hierarchical structures that gradually WARP our self hood conscience,and make us compromise our integrity bit by bit,so slow it isn't even seen,until we gain courage to ask why we do what we do,and most people do not like the cognitive dissonance and anxiety such thoughts create in their own heads they just bury it,forget about it and cope another day.

This denial system serves well the few narcissists/authoritarians/sociopaths
/bullies/abusers(financial abuse included here)to"get ahead" or "win".

"We realized that it summarizes what happens in societies that systematically traumatize their citizens for purposes of control. Dominator societies don’t want us to be who we are. Our being who we are proves inconvenient, because dominator systems want us to be who they tell us to be. They don’t want our creativity. They want our obedience. They don’t want our real selves. They want our traumatized selves, our frozen rabbit selves, ready to sacrifice everything for the promise of safety and security.

If, however,(we believe) there is nothing we can do, then we learn helplessness. If the control-paradigm parent, teacher, spouse, or boss cannot be stopped, then our self-efficacy disappears."
http://www.trufax.org/paradigm/paradigm/es...

(*Unlike the site linked,I don't believe the bible solves anything but the link above DOES clearly describe the effects of social domination/traumatizing well,that's why I linked to it.*)

So to endure and "contain" the trauma of being forced to pretend,people play make believe, the people without these poison personalities tell themselves lies to endure it,to cope with having to be dependent upon abusers who position themselves in powerful social places.This is why some support the wall street bailout they really believe their lives depend on the system that exploits them. We tell ourselves and each other evil little lies like: "boys will be boys","she asked for it" "you can't fight city hall".."He's the boss it's his company he can do what he wants to with it".And that is playing MAKE BELIEVE in a moral sense.. This culture does this crap one way or another.And we must find a way to question and debunk these beliefs.

Here is a whole study justifying the lies our hierarchy tells us,
"Hierarchy, inequality, and violence have always been part of human social structures. There were always rulers and ruled, leaders and followers, the fortunate and the needy, the powerful and the weak. Various cultures have treated disparities in status, power, fortune, and ability in different ways."
http://www.zurinstitute.com/victimhood.htm...

This article lies and says a few truths too.One BIG lie is the premise,the article writer takes human social hierarchy as a "given fact".The writer IGNORES the fact not every culture follows the top down hierarchy model. That is the lie every social hierarchy needs us to believe . But it only seems true because the top down bully cultures for centuries have been busy wiping all the non-hierarchical cultures off the planet,including the collective memory of that way of life..Some indigenous cultures are not top down in social structure and did well for a very,very long time..

I think,humans once formed societies to benefit all members of said culture in a group effort, co-creation of civilization to mitigate the harsh realities of nature. Maybe this is why we formed civilizations to begin with.To help each other survive the harsher times nature dishes out to life on this planet, like droughts or floods.

Anthropologists identify egalitarian cultures as "Kinship-oriented," because they value social harmony more than wealth or status.Egalitarian cultures minimize inequalities, while hierarchical cultures emphasize the importance of rank and status. Seems somewhere along the line of history this civilization project became hijacked by authoritarians/sociopaths/narcissists and with them and under their "leadership"(abuse), came social hierarchy inequality, and empires and wars,overtaking egalitarian cultures looting,raping,conquering,converting,attempting to erase them.

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/8/2/9.html
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/cfsi-icse/cil...
http://www.awakenedwoman.com/marler_hodder...
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m446... ;col1

Life in a hierarchical culture like ours is,is very much like the situation of a child stuck in a dysfunctional(abusive) home, if you are not of the dominator class.Everyone avoids the truth that this is sick and what makes us sick.
The fake "alpha" and obedience to that fake "alpha",catering to the fake "alphas"is the problem we must overcome.

We have to stop tolerating the intolerable and telling ourselves and each other that something intolerable is tolerable.

We have to grow up and abandon or contain these "authorities" and "alpha assholes and their 'culture'. We have to learn to speak to them in the language THEY can understand. The language of DOMINATION and SUBMISSION.
http://www.noogenesis.com/malama/discourag...


While we re-learn how to listen and talk to EACH OTHER with Emotional compassion,respect,honesty and empathy.
We must as a species learn to recognize the toxic personality from the non-toxic,and speak to each in their own language.

Telling sensitized traumatized people telling you you are hurting them to grow thicker skins makes observers more callous and indifferent to others suffering.It makes the blood drop a few degrees colder as we give each other 'permission' to lurch a tiny step closer to the mentality of the alpha dominator asshole,or the thoughtless selfish predator.We might not like what we become if we keep belittling,denying a voice to, and hurting the weakest among us.

The Authoritarian/narcissist and sociopaths unlike people that choose to be an ass to others sometimes,have NO inner locus of control.They feel no shame, guilt or remorse.They do not FEEL trauma or abuse like non toxic people do.They have no conscience.They know right from wrong technically but they don't give a shit about that and find it fun to dupe the laws. They want to dismantle the structures in us that fuel our compassion,love and stop the urges we have to help others weaker than us.Love and empathy is what binds a compassionate culture together and the social contract reflects this.The sociopaths/authoritarians.and narcissistic people want freedom from the social contract we live through that enables us to live in peace together
http://anthropik.com/2005/09/maintaining-a... /



The authoritarian /sociopath/narcissist believes what holds society together is obedience to POWER that holds society together.(usually it means the toxic personalities "power" that is abusive and traumatizing and creates FEAR and obedience in normal non abusive people. Trauma and obedience out of fear of "consequences" that force people into a dilemma that that has no good choice that helps the top down hierarchy structure these bullies impose on us if we DEFER to them and Know Our Places.
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/05_histor...
These warped personality types see as prey and we deserve whatever they do to us because we are less than they are in their self serving appraisals.To them everything has a price tag and it can be stolen sold or exploited and consumed,when it is used up they toss it away,and the used becomes a victim.A victim that haunts them as long as that victim knows the truth,the predator will try to shut them up or minimize them or discredit them to save face and maintain the illusion of the regular guy or pillar in the community role.Because the victim is the only kind of conscience that can counter them,like behavioral control,conscience as well must be imposed from outside for these predatory people.

Truth is we have to stop thinking like prey, question the validity of common beliefs and help each other see through and heal traumas that conditioned us all to be domesticated,accept internecine competing and afraid. We are NOT prey and we can listen to a victim and stand by them.We can limit the abusers of power and make it so they are powerless,and contained or if need be, eliminated.

Our very survival and maybe even survival of many other species or the ecosystem may depend on us learning this lesson.
And stopping the predatory destructive psychopathic men and women that are hellbent on subjecting everything on Earth to their controlling sick whims.They are killing life on Earth attempting to protect this imposing ,self serving game to keep power-over,control, illusion of certainty ,high social status,unchecked predatory behavior without accountability,over-wealth for self at expense of most,and an energy-intensive system that dominates most and sickens everything so they can do what they want to do and no one can tell them to not do it..

This is a personality conflict, it is the real issue underneath the"right wing" /"left wing" conflicts too.
It is the real reason we have a "justice system"laws,and jails and why sometimes jails contain the wrong people and so little is done to restore the integrity of justice.
This conflict of the psyches is why corporations,governments,churches and military get away with doing such bad things and get huge corporate welfare checks(bailouts) while homeless people are hated and harassed and left to die.

That stubborn obedience to the authority most people have in them is being abused by the morally and ethically bankrupted personalities among us who put on the illusion of power,success and"alpha-ness" to exploit us.That is why we accept we live as we are forced to live and why we pretend it is OK to live this way and let the Earth die around us,while we tell ourselves there is NO other options..No other way to run a culture.As it crumbles right before our eyes and the corruption is visible,and we do not take the risks to stop it until it has gotten so bad ,entrenched and large we cannot lie to ourselves anymore.Often by then it is too late and many people die before we come around as a collectively to the see the truth and disobey and attack the illegitimate authorities causing our suffering.
http://www.mindjustice.org/wisdom.htm

Truth is we don't have to tolerate any of these sociopaths/narcissistic/authoritarian assholes.
We never have to give in to their demands ,do things their way,depend on them or anything else if we have each other. We can speak up or act if WE think something a boss or teacher is doing is wrong..We can say NO you CAN'T DO THAT to us...and if we stand with each other in taking the risk to stand up, we can back it up with any FORCE required to MAKE THEM STOP hurting and abusing people not like themselves and the world.

Martin Luther king was one side of the coin that FORCED civil rights to be recognized,Alot of people focus on him and exclude the other force operating to get civil rights recognized also,The Black Panthers .They were ready to fight and kill for their rights to be treated as human beings and to vote,if peaceful persuasion failed to be heeded.And they HAD to fight and show that they had FORCE to back up Martin Luther's dream.

The first and most obvious condition is that non-violence should carry is the moral weight that makes violent retaliation unconscionable. If the people you are fighting against have no morality , feel no shame,guilt,remorse or fear of you, than non-violence cannot and will not solve the problem.It will just get people killed.That is not non violence, it is stupidity.Prey behavior.Giving the bullies permission to abuse MORE.


We can stop them if we do it together, if we can each learn the value of disobedience,learn to say NO,learn to take the RISK of doing the right thing,even if it upsets things and breaks the status quo or offends. We have to stand up with each other in the face of a bully be it a domestic tyrant or a corporation.And if we can just stop pretending bad people want to be 'good'people when they've had a pattern of being predatory for YEARS, if we just give them another chance,because truth is after years of getting away with it,they don't want to change or they can't.We would be misplacing our pity giving it to whom caused the suffering at the expense of those harmed.And this I think is morally wrong.

These personalities are NOT LIKE OURS.They can do stuff we would not do because they are different.Give up that solipsist notion we are all the same,because we are NOT. We have to act on all levels to see these bullies as the squatters occupying positions of power they should not be trusted with, and the tyrants that they ARE,We can't afford to play nice anymore with ruthless people,we have to use our claws to fight them to tear them apart and the toxic social structures they built to serve themselves down,time is growing short the planet cannot sustain this level of abuse and consuming without the ecosystem breaking down..These bad people they not only want control but to destroy.They WANT a world without LOVE and without life that is happy,healthy and diverse and respectful of all our relations..

I know it sounds so cold blooded to fight them lock them up or even kill them..But some things cannot be tolerated by a society IF we want to survive.
These abusive people they are tyrants,bullies, they love death,trauma and suffering and imposing it on others in all it's forms,mental death,personal death,bodily death,planet death.They get off on the destruction of anything good,unique,giving, gentle, caring,loving or alive. Maybe because inside they are dead already,cold blooded in the sense of what makes us humane and able to love,is not there in them.

That lack is the reason they cannot be trusted to care about life and see it as the fragile,unique, precious yet tenuous thing full of potential and diversity that it is .They are dead inside morally and are driven by their own blind toxic nature,to overtake and replicate themselves in others or invade their lives and hijack them, like an ebola virus or a toxic algae bloom,that traumatizes and kills all it touches .So do authoritarians/narcissists/and sociopaths.Bad people can never be trusted to protect the vulnerable,beautiful,creative and different from the ravages of nature or bad humans,at all.Nor can they share what belongs to all of us,the land,air,water,or the fruits of our collective labors without spoiling it or "owning it"and depriving someone from touching it .. for all they want is to dominate everything use it than destroy it so no one else can "have" some.In this world there is plenty for all to have enough,if we all share it with each other.No one needs to be suffering because of the few mean,abusive and greedy among us.

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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Tue Sep 30th 2008, 03:12 PM
Let me start with this..
It is obvious as jobs go overseas that America has become a DEBTOR nation which means we don't even OWN all of our own country anymore.China owns alot of OUR country because we are in DEBT to them for all the cheap or toxic Chinese goods we imported,and than hand China IOU's for it. What if China said pay up up on those IOU's USA? WE WOULD BE Sooo FUCKED..Walmart would be freaking out for sure.
On top of being a debtor nation who likes things cheap as possible(read something for nothing) we do not PRODUCE much of our own wealth here anymore. This is a HORRIBLE position for a nation to be in.

When was it decided that America would be a DEBTOR/CONSUMER nation? How did that come to be? And how is being in hock up to our eyeballs consuming and consuming but not producing all that much wealth to export suddenly become sound financial planning?
And..Wall street it does not NEED this bailout RIGHT NOW.
It can WAIT. Don't let Wall street pigs EXTORT the American People with this stick up, the fear is all bull shit.Let the banks holding guns to their own heads threatening doom, shoot themselves.

I oppose the bailout Because...

# 1 Bernanke and Paulson can not explain the problem that caused this mess coherently.Maybe they can't think of a plausible lie that would sound good enough or complicated enough to justify bamboozling people to accept this stick up.

#2 These are toxic trash loans the government would be buying from the banks..They cannot be "valued" accurately.Really nobody knows the actual value of these bad assets the banks claim they won't touch it.Would you invest in something that you had NO CLUE of how much it was worth,or would you? Would you buy it if you knew it was worthless and just hold onto that four leaf clover and rabbits foot and hope you didn't just do something you will regret? Would you buy it after the bubble busted and everything drops closer to it's actual value.. meaning the inflated cost of 7 billion dollar bet is mostly lost money once actual values of said properties return to sane levels.

Say goodbye to universal health care.Exactly what these bankers DO NOT want us to have.Because foreclosures go to the BANKS,and the biggest cause of foreclosures? MEDICAL BILLS.And Michael Moore is correct on THAT.

This guy is from MIT and he knows the value of these bad loans cannot be figured out.
Please indulge a retired MIT Engineer here at 9000 feet in Colorado, and comment please :
These toxic CDOs in the most part will never mature because of the foreclosure rate of underlying liar loans - thus hold -to-maturity is meaningless and Bernanke certainly knows this. More importantly, how de we unwind the securities that were created from hundreds of thousands of loans hashed by Wall Street Banks into millions of individual securities then sold to thousands of investors world wide………if you know, please post ? I contend this is why no one can cleanly valuate the securities and retrieve real assets (houses) from the swamp.
You may have the answer and the devil is in the hashing and reverse engineering of these securities back to assets.
Help please or direct me to someone who can discuss this with me. Also, a WSJ or other newswire article on this precise topic is long overdue.Don Reynerson
dreynerson@alum.mit.edu


#3The 700 Billion number was pulled out of someones ass, literally .They just picked a REALLY BIG NUMBER. NOW that's real sign of having financial smarts isn't it? And that isn't including the $1 trillion or so of the money about to arrive to the banks when all those Adjustable rate mortgages start going up next year.These wall street pigs speculate to create bubbles of speculation without creating ANY wealth to back it up. No wonder it POPS and the American people LOSE..

#4 Ever notice how the market jumps when people lose jobs or disasters occur or war breaks out? See Naomi Klein's book Shock Doctrine.


#5 There is a minority of powerful people,Who own too much.



#6 Short Sellers and Upticks.
Short selling thugs claim that removal of the uptick rule had nothing to do with this market fall. BULLSHIT!! The evidence proves it DOES. When this abusive short selling shit is controlled and regulated or even eliminated..Remember SEC did this with a temporary order, financial stocks recovered a little. If you want to prevent criminal short selling, and the shit that causes this kind of mess, reinstate the uptick rule.Dammit.


#7 If Goldman claims that current prices are such a bargain why aren't’t other private parties rushing in to buy them and there is no market for them?

#8 Why use the bailout $$ just to prop up middlemen that do nothing of real value and shift numbers around ,gamble with other people's money and get overpaid for it?

#9 “The world,” explained Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, “no longer has the capacity to absorb fake U.S. dollars.”

#10 America and its citizens need to learn how to better live within their means.It means saving up for a big purchase.Or going without it and asking do I really NEED this? Or learning how to barter and Share.

#11 all the banks and other corporations WHO DID NOT BUY INTO THIS GIANT PONZI SCHEME WILL BE JUST FINE.It is the criminals that will have to take the hit,and SHOULD.

#12 This mess is the result of HOUSE STEALING.

'House Stealing' Scam Combines Identity Theft, Mortgage Fraud
Thieves steal and sell your house, leaving you stuck with the mortgage!!
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008...
Why are the housing brokers being investigated by the FBI for?
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/09/24/f...
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...
http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/...
(regardless of what's built there LAND is a kind of wealth,because if you exist you need a PLACE to exist at.This whole speculation bubble the arms all of it was a land grab to force people to have no place to LIVE.Without having to PAY someone to exist there,and if they can't afford it,they'll be homeless and therefore they can be controlled.made to heed a 'master, maybe a financial dictator like Bush's buddy Bernake?..
"It sounds like Paulson is asking to be a financial dictator, for a limited period of time." --Historian John Steele Gordon

#13 And have you noticed?? This bailout drama,and all the fear mongering,and such has successfully DISTRACTED US from these SERIOUS FBI investigations into major players in the speculation and housing markets that created this mess doesn't it?

#14 It is not NECESSARY!! OR URGENTLY NEEDED NOW!!!
Ely: Look, all of the fallout we are seeing in the markets today is part of clearing the detritus from the last speculative bubble. The housing bubble has to be allowed to collapse in order to clear the markets.
http://www.rgemonitor.com/financemarkets-m...
http://www.truthout.org/092608R
http://www.miamiherald.com/692/story/70195...

#15 This part of the original bill said:
"Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-re-viewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency. This puts the Treasury's actions beyond the rule of law. This is a financial coup d'etat"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/why...
Since Paulson had the AUDACITY to put that kind of language in the original bailout.. why on EARTH would you TRUST these traitors to do what's right for the PEOPLE?? Isn't it kinda stupid to give money to such treasonous greedy criminals? Criminals UNDER INVESTIGATION already by the FBI.

#16 Ben Bernanke, secretly handed over $200 billion in a tryst with *mortgage bank industry speculators*. Bernanke was using government taxpayers money to fund that 200 billion.
If He can just pickpocket 200 billion and it disappears what do you think will happen with the 700 billion?
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-g... /

#17 Bush has already sidestepped congress and gave $680 Billion of OUR money to wall street criminals..
680 billion Plus 700 billion Equals FUCK!! Add in the TRILLIONS we already have in Debt before all this shit and it's Double FUCK!FUCK!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/29/b... /
Bush has ignored congress before concerning large sums for his cronies.What makes you think he won't do it AGAIN.

#18 This bailout will be at least $700 billion in new debt on top of the existing $9.8 trillion national debt.That 700 billion will double the budget deficit overnight. There will be more and more bailouts until this criminal pyramid scheme collapses.
Looks like it already has started more bailouts bush went over congress and bailed out at the tune of 680 billion now this 700 billion is ANOTHER bailout on top of all the other bailouts...

#19 This has opened the door for McCain and right-wing House Republicans to posture as opponents of Wall Street and identify themselves with massive popular opposition to the bailout. The faction of House Republicans who have denounced the measure represents right-wing libertarian elements within the party who identify social spending and government intervention in the capitalist “free market” with what they consider the ultimate evil—socialism.
http://vtindymedia.org/newswire/display/38...


#20 Taxpayer money in tends to disappear without a trace.12 billion went poof in Iraq..
Between April 2003 and June 2004, $12 billion in U.S. currency--much of it belonging to the Iraqi people--was shipped from the Federal Reserve to Baghdad, where it was dispensed by the Coalition Provisional Authority. Some of the cash went to pay for projects and keep ministries afloat, but, incredibly, at least $9 billion has gone missing, unaccounted for, in a frenzy of mismanagement and greed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/0...
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/50...

#21 WRONG PRIORITIES!!
Isn't it strange this government claims it simply cannot afford universal health care or effective poverty reduction or to fund any number of programs that would improve the lives of poor and middle class people can overnight find billions of dollars to save the greedy pigs who ran these Wall Street scams? Why do they waste so much on so FEW who already HAVE so much? WRONG PRIORITIES.

#22 We will face financial hardships either way.Bailout or no bailout. Because Debt is not real wealth,even when a smooth talking con man tries to tell you it IS.A mortgage is a debt until it is paid off you do not OWN the house until it is paid off.And if you do not pay property tax after you have paid off the banks you can still lose your house. WHO owns it really?
The top 1 percent wealthy that own around 80-90% of EVERYTHING.
The 1 per centers extorting OUR government right now! And causing wall street to shake,if they don't get their way NOW.The top one per centers are having Temper tantrums because they can't get what they want,basically which is to be financial dictators.And Abuse the people financially in any way they want to..

#23 The Ownership society. The right wing believe in the Divine Right of Kings.It is a core belief of Conservatism. The right wing tyrants wants full spectrum domination of we the people.The PNAC spells it all out,folks..The bullies want a feudal/theocratic state. They will do ANYTHING to get what they want like petulant children. A society made of Masters and servants,and no one else. Made of owners(Lords) and Peons totally dependent upon fawning and pleasing these land owning bullies for their existence and they will be by their own needs forced to obey the massah of the manor..or else.
Find out what conservatism really is.
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Posted by undergroundpanther in General Discussion
Fri Sep 12th 2008, 10:14 PM
To react to,and to demand a SOLUTION for..A distraction from...

I hope all this "awareness" spread around recently about painkiller addiction does not get the public yammering for the paranoid DEA to find an excuse to remove access to pain medicine for those with chronic pain. because people can and do get addicted.
People can get life in jail for possessing a joint,but a murderer can get as little as 6 months? WTF?
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Black_guy_gets_l...

There is something very wrong here. It stinks.
I find it strange how all these people, NOW of all times,are coming forth with their pain killer addiction stories.(of course they are no longer in pain now)

As I was looking for the weather channel today I saw there was someone famous(can't remember her name offhand) on Oprah telling her story of addiction.I hear alot about this issue recently.I saw a commercial warning adults teens could be pilfering grandma's drugs...Why NOW all this attention.?

Ironic Bush made sure the poppy fields in Afghanistan were not razed down..Why?? Prisons are private corporations..Bush's ownership society is meant as an Orwellian word...

I worry about this issue for several reasons, because Joe Q.Public is 30 points shy of being retarded. So I fear there will be a backlash against prescribed pain killers, A scapegoating process of the people who need them. Like making it so they can't get them or must jump through 1,001 hoops,to QUALIFY for them, and I fear unwarranted suspicion of legit doctors who DO prescribe them. I fear it. Why?

The main reason is I have ruptured disc's squishing some the nerves coming out from my spine in several disc's and let me tell you neuropathy is all about horrible unrelenting PAIN.I never thought I'd be one of those people looking into Pain Management say 6 years ago.The pain hurts so bad sometimes it makes me wish I was dead. It hurts THAT bad..I can't sit,lay in any position,stand up,prop up,or do anything to relieve it by usual methods one would do for a garden variety backache.I sleep on a heating pad and whimper to sleep.It fucking hurts like you would not believe..

It makes me angry and it sucks that the non-narcotic painkillers don't work on severe pain.And the drug companies waste time with viagra and baldness drugs pandering to rich vain old people,scared of being old or their insurance..

An example of how STUPID our FDA is, they'll forbid independent small beef companies to test their own herds for BSE, but ever hear of Tramodol? It is a drug I was given recently it didn't work,I wondered why,On Tramodol,I went to the ER, the pain was driving me up a wall.I sat there for five hours for nothing because I had no way home if I stayed...Well my spinal neurologist tells me it is useless for pain when taken ORALLY. But it is very effective in an injectable form at killing bad pain and it is non-addictive..

But get this: the fucking FDA does not approve of Tramadol in injection form over HERE. But over in Europe and pretty much everywhere else it is approved to get in an injection. It's like our fucked up phobic puritanical ass backwards government WANTS people in severe pain to kill themselves in anguish or become addicts just so macho cops or paranoid"homeland security fascists" or the DEA with nothing better to do can fine or punish them for seeking relief later when they are 'caught' possessing the drugs that are made into the devil itself..by STUPID PEOPLE who never have dealt with the magnitude of pain like neuropathy creates..


I hate that there are so few non -narcotic pain killers for severe pain available.Honestly,I am scared to death of becoming addicted. I hurt until I can't stand it,before I dare take a hydrocodone. Yet good pain management means you have to take the medicines before it's killing you,but I am afraid to do it.
I can't take percoset,allergic to it,thankfully.

But regardless degenerative disc disease fucking SUCKS and it hurts like you wouldn't believe. I got it from being hit by a car (a cab)going 45 mph in a 25 mph zone,I was slowly walking across the street holding my ex's hand .I had one foot on the curb and I was wrenched from his hand and I flew to the other side of the road.

Because I was naive about my rights,legally back than,and didn't even understand what "press charges" meant I didn't know what I should do or say. In the ER I was so drugged up when a cop asked me questions and I couldn't understand him or my own thoughts or words.I didn't know I should have gone to shock trauma,the general hospital didn't bother to x-ray my spine at all,they just reset my legs,sent me on my way in crutches I didn't know how to use.I'm a medical assistant patient I don't get treated like I matter,and MA patients do get shitty care,because we are the useless eater class.
And somehow I am supposed to NOT resent THIS shit? While rich people get five star care just because they are RICH or a Person of Interest? WTF.Fuck this class war bullshit.

Unbeknown to me or the ER my fucking neck was fractured!My spine was impacted!I didn't know how to defend myself,I was drugged up because I was in pain at the ER and because I didn't know or understand I never sought compensation. I was alone.The bastard cabbie was speeding and had his car lights off.Neither my ex or myself saw him coming.I had a huge neon pink 2 foot spiked Mohawk and GLITTERY Doc Martins on that day.
I was because of my financial and social status treated like I was some insignificant waste of money,(the way REPUBLICANS think)no one saw this injustice,not even ME at the time.I think the reason I went to the general hospital was to save a corporation's reputation(Jimmy's Cab co.).And my anger will come up every time I hurt.At the fucking cab driver,at the fucking ER the ambulance Co,myself the psych system,For the rest of my days. I have more pain to look forward to as my spine disintegrates..however. What a fucking wonderful life.

And because of my ignorance of the laws,(nobody bothered to explain it)the failure of having any decent advocate in the psych system (lazy ignorant residential staff) and my mom being in another state, I had no one to help me than,and because I had no one but my ex who was young and naive as I was at the time,I was so screwed.My reward? 15 years later I am in pain and scared to take the drugs that take the pain away.

I hurt.. and I am scared of becoming addicted,Scared of the DEA crazies coming to get me someday down the road or the spinal neurologist I go to who is one of the sweetest people...getting in trouble or being "investigated" because he wanted to HELP me. It makes my blood boil..And I know I am not the only one on this board with chronic pain.I wonder if they are scared of the DEA or addiction or being scapegoated too or worse forced to suffer because the climate could become so no doctor wants to RISK prescribing narcotic painkillers?

I hate this world.And there is no way for me to get over it.I'll never get compensated for my injuries.(statute of limitations) It saves every corporate asshole,and abuser asshole).

I am so screwed .I am scared the hypocrite rich bully re thugs clinging to power will not step down, I am scared they may try to scapegoat liberal or politically left people in pain.You know bullies & re-thugs always pick targets who are the least able to fight back like the poor or sick. The hate I feel about all this shit is magnified to epic despising levels.I hate conservatism to it's rotten core.I DESPISE authoritarians,hypocrite rich criminal assholes. I hate them all.I hate their world.They make everything WORSE.

I would love to see the rich and corrupt lined up and laugh my ass off as I watch each hypocrite tyrant wealthy pampered thieving pig "conservative" dragged onto a platform by a bunch of fed up and exploited people, sick of their crap,laughing as the "conservatives" lose their heads by a guillotine blade and their wealth is redistributed,their families frantically fleeing the country in shame and impoverished..all the secrets let out to the light of day,the cancer cut out,and 'family values' bullshit ,the class/ culture war ended, destroyed forever, as the psychopathic ideologies of the right wing are finally debunked and tossed OUT of power and the believers in it are rooted out and never allowed to participate in ANY politics forever..laughed at and hated everywhere they go BECAUSE of what they believe in and who they ARE.

I'm tired of this fascist class war christian nazi drug war puritanical fanatic right wing bullshit.

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Thu Sep 11th 2008, 02:36 PM

Does Punishment Deter Juvenile Crime?

"Researchers note a close connection between lack of punishment and the forming of criminal habits."
"There is an inverse correlation between expected punishment and the crime rate." "Studies conclude that (1) a majority of serious crime is committed by habitual criminals and (2) punishment works, especially for juveniles." "An initial contact with the criminal justice system causes most young people to desist from criminal acts."

In the past, many judges and social workers have argued for less stringent treatment of such offenders, with "prevention" taking precedence over detention. Thus the emphasis tends to be on so-called root causes and non-punitive interventions. The results fail to bear out the hopes invested in such an approach. Researchers note a close connection between lack of punishment and the forming of criminal habits. They also note the effectiveness of punishment, especially for juveniles.In one of the most comprehensive studies following offenders and the criminal justice system over time, University of Pennsylvania criminologist Marvin Wolfgang and his colleagues found that hard-core predators were a relatively small group of repeaters who rarely were punished. 32
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**(The charming,glib attractive manipulating socially popular bully boys are who escape punishment by charming authority figures perhaps?)** The adult bully is often charming. He or she is usually verbally confident and can be adept at using language to make his or her actions seem plausible..
http://www.endteacherabuse.info/bully.html
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The Wolfgang group compiled arrest records up to the 30th birthday for two groups consisting of every male born and reared in Philadelphia in 1945 and in 1958. Their study, published in 1990, found that in both groups about 35 percent were arrested at least once for a non-traffic offense and nearly half of these never tangled with the law again. The group that turned 30 years old in 1988, however, was guilty of much more serious crime than the one that turned 30 in 1975. The two groups had two things in common: the hard-core predators were few in number and were rarely punished:

* Just 7 percent in each cohort (the top 20 percent of those arrested at least once) committed two-thirds of all violent crimes, including three out of four rapes and robberies.
* Members of this hard-core group in each cohort not only had five or more criminal arrests before age 18 but also continued committing felonies and got away with a dozen crimes for every arrest made.

The Criminal Personality. A major obstacle to the success of rehabilitation is the existence of what could be called the criminal personality. Perhaps the most important work on this subject is the three-volume study by the late Samuel Yochelson, a physician, and Stanton Samenow, a practicing psychologist. 51 After interviewing hundreds of criminals and their relatives and acquaintances, the two researchers concluded that criminals (1) have control over what they do, freely choosing evil over good, (2) have distinct personalities, described in detail as deceitful, egotistical, myopic and violent and (3) make specific errors in thinking (52 such errors are identified).

http://www.ncpa.org/bg/bg148/bg148c.html

The Psychopath

In her important study of mental illness in non-Western, primitive societies,
Murphy ( 1976) found that the Yupic-speaking Eskimos in northwest Alaska have
a name, kunlangeta, for the man who, for example, repeatedly lies and cheats and steals things and does not go hunting and, when the other men are out of the village, takes sexual advantage of many women--someone who does not pay attention to reprimands and who is always being brought to the elders for punishment. One Eskimo among the 499 on their islandwas called kunlangeta. When asked what would have happened to such a person traditionally, an Eskimo said that probably "somebody would have pushed him off the ice when nobody else was looking." (p. 1026)

Because traditional methods of socialization are so effective in tribal societies,where the extended family rather than just a particular parent-pair participate in the process, the kunlangeta probably possesses inherent peculiarities of temperament
that make him unusually intractable to socialization. Such a man I classify as a psychopath, an individual in whom the normal processes of socialization have failed to produce the mechanisms of conscience and habits of law-abidingness that normally constrain antisocial impulses.

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&docId=26...

No time for bullies
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...
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HissSpit!
We live imprisoned in a dream of our leaders' making, whether we realize this or not and it is killing us.

kakistocracy

kak·is·toc·ra·cy

Noun:Inflected forms: pl. kak·is·toc·ra·cies
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.

Etymology:
Greek kakistos, worst, superlative of kakos, bad; see caco– + –cracy.

In other words the worst of shit heads humanity has are in the Whitehouse..The US government is being destroyed by a bunch of sociopaths.

Time for all liberals to realize we are not dealing with rational,ethical people anymore when we deal with neocons or theocracies.The neocon fascist/theocracy have taken over the GOP. This is because of a big unseen problem found with certain types of relationships with certain types of personalities.Too many people demonstrate a destructive personality type that is more somewhere along the spectrum of narcissism/authoritarian/controlling or a conduct disorders.
Their ego defenses really do interfere with their own sense of ethics their capacity for insight,honesty and empathy with others not like themselves.

This bullying type of persona or it's flip side the true believer obedient one(enablers) can be found in varying degrees of severity in most people. But it's the 1 in 4 problem people out of our entire population who are DEFINED by these traits that are the worst offenders..
Learn about them here:
http://www.successunlimited.co.uk /

People with these types of personality really do see the world through the distorted lens of their sick egos,winning zero-sum games,getting away with it, and maintaining their own addictions at any cost to others.
We can all be shitty sometimes but the type of person I find to be a real problem are career shit heads, people who are defined by the shit they do that ruins and diminishes other people's lives..

Bush and the tyrannical "Neocon" corporate religious Christo-Fascists are a cabal of sociopath shit heads. Problem personalities shredding the very document that gives America protection from these sorts of criminal shit heads. The career bullies among us seek to undermine America..by warping the noble yet still imperfect socially evolving ethical character that up until now has kept it's shit heads away from positions of power ,bound them by law,and kept them under control.We need to flush this stinking kakistocracy down the toilet and learn to say NO to abusers of trust and power wherever they are..and learn to rub their noses in their own shit wherever they do their incompetent,criminal,inhumane acts.Wherever they offend we should go on offensive.The sanctity of the spirit of conscience demands no less of us ,if we want to keep our own freedoms intact.


“Truth is one of the rarest commodities in the times we are living through, to expose it to the masses is tantamount to slapping the entrenched power structure of the United States in their very face, but which, at times, someone needs to take the risk and do, otherwise, and what we are seeing in America now, lies become the truth because they are more comfortable for people to believe.”David L. Booth

Bataille’s call for collective awakening :

“Lift the curse of those feelings which oppress men, which force them into wars they do not want, and consign them to work from whose fruits they never benefit… Assume within oneself perversion and crime, not as exclusive values, but as a prelude to their integration into the totality of humanity. Participate in the destruction of a world as it presently exists, with eyes open to the world which is yet to be."



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I don't agree with everything written on these websites myself.Some of it I do. Some I use in my own way to deepen my own understanding. I have found in most eveything you read there is a bit of bullshit mixed in,in other things ALOT of bullshit is mixed in..Use/develop your own discernment..Cat Rule # 1 always smell it first.Inhale deeply,If it stinks it's probably bullshit..This is some freaky deep thought provoking stuff on many topics.Enjoy!
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